Shared garden space with dog using it as toilet!

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Hello

We have a shared back garden area, no front garden. Neighbours have a big dog, they let it use the shared garden area as a dog toilet, don't take it walks. I have a toddler that I now don't feel safe letting out to play. I have asked them nicely to not leave poo about but its doing wet poos and also peeing everywhere which is killing large patches of the grass. Oh I hate it! Now my children have no garden to use and theirs does.

Am I being unreasonable to not let my little ones out to the dog toilet? It makes me so angry to be honest.

yes, you are right. I will need to keep trying.

So they are cleaning it up, they're not leaving steaming piles of dog poop, it's just leaving a residue because the poop is soft?
I think you need to keep the toddler in the poop free area. Get a better fence if necessary.

from the back door its straight into the main garden area, we have to walk over to our fenced off bit with gate. Its such a small bit that toddler is not liking being confined in it lol. its not too bad we can fit table chairs, plants, raised bed, play house, but for some reason just wants to be roaming free as soon as sees the large grassy garden. Which is the shared drying green area. Its us 1 side, them 1 side, bottom people who have nobody in there at mo, but the 3 of us are to use that middle large grassy bit as shared drying green, but its been taken over with dog mess, and killed off dog pee grass.

sometimes its been left, hit and miss. It was wet poo today though.

It is awful that the dog poo is like that though... It'd really upset me too. Our neighbour used to let their dog poo on the local paths ... When their dog died all the poo suddenly stopped!!

It'll take time, but just try and teach them "dirty... Play here or inside" and keep reinforcing. Well done!!

Are you allowed to have fenced off 'your' area OP? Are they allowed to have a dog? Sounds like you may both have broken some shared garden protocol to me?

If you want this to stop you're going to have to report it. It's healthy hazard.

If they threaten you, report that too.

Your daughter's health is worth growing a backbone for. If they've been going this for a while hour other neighbours will be relieved that this could be ending. Canvas them.

I think YABU because it’s a shared garden (although they should be picking up the dog poo straight away - sounds like they mostly are but sometimes it’s not possible after a runny one?! They should get a bucket of water on that) but it’s a shared garden and that’s how they’re using it, to let their dog out. Sharing garden with a toddler would not be fun and games for most people either.. but that’s how you would like to use it.

So its unreasonable to be upset that where we all need to stand to hang up washing, is a dog toilet and has patches of pissed on dead grass all over? Toddler is way cleaner than dog dirt which can blind children, its pee toxic too.

Its a chicken wire type fence of like maybe 1 meter high. its not really doing anything invasive, just keeping the dog off or it does poo on our raised bed area. We own, they rent off council, its a bit of a weird one I guess.

Dirty pigs. You've only got 2 choices OP; let them prevent you from using the shared part of the garden or report. I wouldn't give a stuff if they knew it was me reporting, they should be embarrassed. You've given them chances, now you go to the council and kick up a stink.

Just leaving this here, because the pee also is concerning, its not washed away. Just killing grass. Obviously when it rains etc, but still.

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That's disgusting of them. If it was me I'd go and ring their doorbell everytime I found dogsh*t and ask them to come out and bag it up.

My dog needs to poo in the garden from time to time. It gets bagged straight away and if it's hot and dry I go out and hose the grass down until it's gone, same for the pee. In hot weather you can smell it. I don't want my neighbours to sit in their own garden smelling that, and I don't particularly like them. Let alone people who need to go out and hang their washing in their shared garden.

I'm surprised they're allowed a dog in council property with a shared garden tbh, that's unusual ime.

If it’s a shared garden space, why do your neighbours have the “larger grassy area” ? Fence off half!

But I sympathise. The smell must be awful as well as the lack of hygiene of your neighbours.

I wouldn’t want to share a garden with a dog owner who let their dog Pooh all over it and didn’t clean up after. BUT you have fenced off your own bit of garden and want to have access to the rest of the garden as well. That seems like CF territory to me.

Yeah unfortunately you just need to keep moving your toddler back.

i know it’s a shag I’ve got 2 under 3 but they get the message in the end

Splitting the garden in half was sensible. You look after yours, they look after theirs.

You need to teach your child that she can only play in her garden.

Dirty bastards! 💩 💩 💩
Of course the toddler doesn't want to stay where you ask him, they aren't known for their compliance and he should be able to roam in a safe area.

You want your child to be allowed to play in the shared area while you have your area that you own fenced in but the people who rent shouldn'tbl be allowed to let their dog use their shared garden right?

The council permits dogs in their tenancies, dogs are allowed to use gardens. They aren't letting the dog poop pile up, it's not unreasonable of them at all. The dog isn't causing a nuisance. You're a bit of a CF though. Get rid of your fancy garden plants and make it more child friendly if it's such an issue.

You can get scoopers that are a bit like JCB grabbers that pick the poo up to move it - I’ve always wondered what use they are because when would you pick up a dog poo without using a doggy bag but I think I might be inclined to pick up any non wet poos left in the space outside the chicken wire especially near the clothes line and move it to directly outside their back door so it starts to be inconvenient rather than convenient for Then to leave it for too long. For occasional wet poos we keep a bag of soil in our garden which I use to sprinkle a handful over the poo patch once I have bagged up so no one steps in that patch until it’s been absorbed/ degraded.

Or Can you just start inching out your chicken wire fence night by night so it gets bigger and bigger but almost imperceptibly over time? Like in The Twits. I have a dog OP and I don’t think you are being unreasonable. yes fine your toddler needs to learn but so do the dog owners and presumably they are older.

Get in touch with the council. Take photos of evidence including of the dog if possible as it may be against their lease to have one. I am a dog lover but in no way would I allow it to foul a shared garden space let alone not walk it. Poor dog! Good luck.

I used to live in the south west and it was in a local paper that a tiny little girl put dog poo in her eyes when she was playing in the playground that clearly stated 'no dogs'.
The poor child's eye swelled up and had to have her eye removed because it couldn't be saved. Devastating.

Have you checked the deeds about the permitted use of the shared area?

What does it say its purpose is etc.

They may be breaching the deeds.

I think your child wanting to play there is a bit of a red herring tbh as its purpose is a shared drying green, not a play ground for your child or toilet for their dog. Your justifiable complaint is that they are allowing their dog to use the drying green as a toilet when they should only allow that on their strip. I'd ask them if they'd stop the dog going on the drying green if I were you but I wouldn't be arguing that was so your child could play there.