Neighbours kids playing outside early…

[FooFightersFan]

It’s the school holidays and I appreciate that by starting this thread I’m going to sound like a right grump, but here goes…

Our garden backs onto two houses, both of which are owned by couples with young kids. All four parents work from home full time.

The kids (youngest 3, all primary school aged) regularly play outside in the gardens. The houses are new build with literally no plants or shrubs. Just lawn surrounded by fence / brick walls. The noise just bounces around as there is nothing to ‘absorb’ it.

I accept that they are noisy when they play because they are young, energetic and kids!

Now that the school summer holidays are well under way, it’s become apparent that getting up and out into the garden at 8am is their routine. And they shout. A lot.
Then at 10am they go inside and there is silence for a while.

I can deal with it, I have 2 kids and I appreciate that’s what kids are like.

and here’s the “but”…

My son works full time and his room overlooks our back garden. He works 12 hour shifts a lot of days, in hospitality. Most shifts mean he is home around 11pm and in bed by midnight. He’s getting increasingly fed up with the neighbour kids’ morning routine.

During term time, the outside playing is just at the weekend. But now it’s a daily occurrence due to the holidays, I really feel for my son, because being woken up 90 mins before he needs to be up for his next shift is pretty miserable.

WIBU to message or pop round to my neighbours and see if they can encourage their kids to be quieter (a big ask) or to not let them out before 9:00.

I’ve become that grumpy neighbour 😩

Totally agree, if I was the neighbour I would deliberately make some more noise just to per her off. Can you imagine if she decided to make a formal complaint to anywhere? ‘My precious little boy of 19 is only able to get about 8 hours of sleep as the next door neighbours children are in the garden at 8am and having fun’ 🙄 I bet anything that this mum and son complain about everything , feel bad for those poor neighbours of hers

So the sound of a car engine, which quite likely is not even very noisy, for a minute or so compared with screaming children which is much louder and almost certainly goes on for far longer than a minute. The two don't compare in the slightest.

I think she was right to speak to them and it doesn't sound like she actually said to quieten down but you exaggerate why don't you.

The point is through after 7am there can be noise, yes not ridiculous screaming and shouting but the OP didn’t even try the suggestions before complaining which definitely makes her seem unreasonable and entitled and she thinks everyone should fit in with her

But again, that would be acceptable as it’s before11, the kids go out after 7. The OP didn’t even try any suggestions before complaining which proves she is unreasonable

Have to say I might say okay but I'd be so annoyed with you I'd be sending them out with music instruments dead on 9 and they would be noisier than ever.

@FooFightersFan I think 8am is too early and I don't let my toddler out till 10am - even when we've been awake since 5am. I go to the park at 8am if we want to get outside. Unfortunately I don't think you can stop them from being noisy.

You are missing the point that after 7am noise is to be expected 🙄 her son hasn’t even tried Jay suggestions but the OP went around complaining anyway

If children are not able to have fun without screaming then there is something wrong with them and with the parents

Well you sound like a kind considerate person with zero parenting skills

Considering she mentioned about ‘quieting down’ I’m hardly exaggerating. It’s 8am! 🤦‍♀️ it’s not even 7 which is when normal daily noise if expected. The fact she didn’t even try ear plugs says enough about her

8am isn't early. It's light before 5am at the moment. At 8am, I've already done 2 hours' work.

Can your DS move his bedroom - that is, can you rearrange things so he can sleep in?

How do we ébène know that they are ‘screaming’ what she believes to be screaming could just be kids laughing and having fun 🙄

But screaming is NOT normal daily noise unless you are inconsiderate idiot. Maybe he has tried earplugs and can't get on with them. I have tried every type going and they hurt my ears so much I can't use them.

As I said, the car noise would last probably a maximum of a minute whereas the screaming likely goes on and on and on and on. Mustn't stop the little darlings having fun

I think people know the difference between laughing and screaming except the useless parents who either don't know or don't care

Adult screeching for no reason would be a bit weird...

No-one, absolutely no one needs to scream while playing. No-one.

@annamilo I think you need to move on with your life and hide this thread.

I’ve resolved my issue with my neighbours by speaking to them politely and rationally. And they were aware that their son is noisy and have said they’ll try and keep noise down until a little later on. They are aware because they’ve already apologised to other neighbours around them before now.

Today has been much quieter. I don’t know how long this will last. Maybe a day. Maybe a week. Maybe longer. Who knows?

But my feeling about what type of family they are is that they are considerate and open to talking. What happens in the future? Who knows but there is now an open dialogue between us.

The following is not directed at you…

But just because a poll says the majority think someone is unreasonable, is based on a snapshot of what the OP has shared.
Personally I’ve learned two things since starting this thread.

Firstly, people have different views and base them on the info they’ve been given. If as the OP you give more info, it’s sometimes accused of being an exaggeration or fibbing or drip feeding. But some people can give good input and I have taken a few things on board. No one is 100% right or 100% wrong.

I approached my neighbour based on what I knew about them and the fact that a proportion of posters said it was a bit early for shouting/screaming/loud voices. That worked for me. I didn’t have to listen to any of the views but was interested in what was being suggested.

Secondly, I don’t post on Mumsnet often, and I’ve remembered why.

Oh dear lord the neighbours kids are screaming outside one is now throwing a tantrum, the adults are shouting over them to talk to each other and God damn they are normally in bed at 7pm but obviously being kept up later ahoukd of stayed in the gym longer

Roll on rain and winter

I’ve resolved my issue with my neighbours by speaking to them politely and rationally

You could of just done that in the first place to be fair

Why does your son's wellbeing take priority over small children who are playing in a garden at 8am during the summer? I assume he is 16+... if he is older than 18 you are having a laugh.

Welcome your son to the adult world! It does not revolve around him! He is working, that is how it is. He had his childhood! Let the kids next door very reasonably play outside in their own space, and you should unclench!

Unbelievable entitlement.

I have the problem the other end of the day.

Three days a week I start work at 7am and wake up 5:20-5:30am so go to bed no later than 10:30pm.

There are kids still screaming outside. These kids are 7-12 and should not be screaming regardless of the time of day

Well done OP. Yes ignore most of the posters on here. Keyboard warriors who are bored and looking for an argument. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't like it if kids were shouting outside their house all day starting at 8am 🤣

I agree. It's too early to be outside shouting or screaming or yelling. No one wants to hear that first thing in the morning whether they've been up late or not. Children do not have to be constantly screaming and shouting just because they are children.

But just because a poll says the majority think someone is unreasonable, is based on a snapshot of what the OP has shared

Well yes, but that's the entire population of information you thought was relevant? So why on earth shouldn't conclusions be drawn from it? If you had information that you thought would've changed the result, then why on earth wouldn't you share it?

Sorry? Why did you post on here? You asked peoples views and they were given. If people don’t agree with you then you opened yourself up to it.
if you were already going to say something to then then your post was completely pointless.
you should have just done it.
I am entitled of my opinions as are others, it’s kind of the point of posting in here.
The fact you didn’t even consider ear plugs etc shows that you are not willing to compromise.
next time you want advice don’t post it in a pick of forum