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Neighbours kids playing outside early…

704 replies

FooFightersFan · 26/07/2024 10:22

It’s the school holidays and I appreciate that by starting this thread I’m going to sound like a right grump, but here goes…

Our garden backs onto two houses, both of which are owned by couples with young kids. All four parents work from home full time.

The kids (youngest 3, all primary school aged) regularly play outside in the gardens. The houses are new build with literally no plants or shrubs. Just lawn surrounded by fence / brick walls. The noise just bounces around as there is nothing to ‘absorb’ it.

I accept that they are noisy when they play because they are young, energetic and kids!

Now that the school summer holidays are well under way, it’s become apparent that getting up and out into the garden at 8am is their routine. And they shout. A lot.
Then at 10am they go inside and there is silence for a while.

I can deal with it, I have 2 kids and I appreciate that’s what kids are like.

and here’s the “but”…

My son works full time and his room overlooks our back garden. He works 12 hour shifts a lot of days, in hospitality. Most shifts mean he is home around 11pm and in bed by midnight. He’s getting increasingly fed up with the neighbour kids’ morning routine.

During term time, the outside playing is just at the weekend. But now it’s a daily occurrence due to the holidays, I really feel for my son, because being woken up 90 mins before he needs to be up for his next shift is pretty miserable.

WIBU to message or pop round to my neighbours and see if they can encourage their kids to be quieter (a big ask) or to not let them out before 9:00.

I’ve become that grumpy neighbour 😩

OP posts:
Boomer55 · 27/07/2024 08:36

Rainisonmyplane · 26/07/2024 12:56

I have a 3.5 year old. I think 8am is very early despite him getting up at 6.30am everyday. 9am would be the earliest we'd go in the garden.

And he makes noise, but not the screaming. If he gets a bit loudly repetitive I ask him to take it down a notch or two - and despite him being 3, I am teaching him about our neighbours and being respectful.

My Bengal, on the other hand, just will not be taught. She doesn't care about the neighbours. No respect at all that one.

The person hasn’t been born yet that can shut a Bengal cat up….😳

Screaming kids are much easier to control. Don’t let them do it. At any time. 🙄

mydogisthebest · 27/07/2024 08:50

planAplanB · 27/07/2024 00:36

I wonder if your son's car disturbs your neighbours as he arrive home after 11pm? That would be annoying.

Cars are essential for many people. A screaming child is just a nuisance and completely unnecessary unless, of course, they have hurt themselves

TulsaGirl · 27/07/2024 09:33

SwingTheMonkey · 27/07/2024 04:42

God this interaction between you and the other poster is pathetic. Are you both 12?

When someone comes on one of these threads, gives stupid replies to multiple people, calls people a Karen, calls out people quoting people and starting their little individual arguments with everyone, then calls it "little gang mentality" when multiple people are replying back and having their separate little disputes...then yeah it gets a bit mind numbing in the end. And no I'm not 12, but thanks.

sixtyten · 27/07/2024 10:10

Do you know how ‘in my day’ you sound? And how we all know that phenomenon is just poor memory and perception of things in the past?

Do you know how breathtakingly arrogant (not to mention ageist) you sound?

We don't 'all know' anything of the sort.

sixtyten · 27/07/2024 10:15

CustardCreams2 · 27/07/2024 00:47

I doubt these kids are screaming and screeching constantly. What a boring life if all kids have to play quietly. Also squealing as a child isn’t a crime. Let them have fun.

It's perfectly possible for kids to have a ton of fun - even noisy fun - in their gardens without screaming. (Note I didn't say squealing, which I agree is nowhere near as obnoxious.)

Hangingupnow · 27/07/2024 10:20

It’s not ideal but then nor is building work, garden maintenance etc and that all starts up at 8 am where I am.

S0livagant · 27/07/2024 10:28

Hangingupnow · 27/07/2024 10:20

It’s not ideal but then nor is building work, garden maintenance etc and that all starts up at 8 am where I am.

Building work is annoying at any time of the day but 8am is not at all early. Much better then than in the evenings when people are relaxing in their gardens.

sixtyten · 27/07/2024 10:51

I am up with dc between 5 and 6. They do not ever go out before 9 because I think that is early enough to be on the trampoline and making noise. They do not scream. My one year old knows you go inside if you scream after being told not to. She forgets and screams obvs, she is 1, but then we go inside for a few minutes and I say that we cannot be outside and screaming. It is why my older dc knocked screaming on the head while still toddling.

Screaming only comes with the territory when children are not taught to do better.

Thank goodness for some common sense on this thread.

Namechanged11111 · 27/07/2024 10:57

8am is too early.

I don’t understand the entitlement of the posters that think it’s okay.

Obviously their needs trump yours op. The thought of being considerate and parenting their own kids until 9am is totally unreasonable to some people.

MasterShardlake · 27/07/2024 10:58

Next door's children used to scream in the garden when they first moved in. My dog trained them out of it by barking furiously whenever they did it.

I explained that he barked because the noise hurt his ears. The screaming stopped, occasionally the noise level starts to go up and there's shouting, dog gives a couple of warning woofs and they stop and say "sorry doggie".

Hangingupnow · 27/07/2024 11:01

If the children are screaming for hours on a daily basis I surprised they haven’t lost their voices!

sixtyten · 27/07/2024 11:08

MasterShardlake · 27/07/2024 10:58

Next door's children used to scream in the garden when they first moved in. My dog trained them out of it by barking furiously whenever they did it.

I explained that he barked because the noise hurt his ears. The screaming stopped, occasionally the noise level starts to go up and there's shouting, dog gives a couple of warning woofs and they stop and say "sorry doggie".

I get the feeling some parents specifically put their dc out early in good weather so they can get all this screaming they apparently have to do out of the way outdoors instead of indoors. 😒

sixtyten · 27/07/2024 11:08

@MasterShardlake love the dog solution though 😄

Spectre8 · 27/07/2024 11:36

It's mot just the screaming kids, the parents to (well some of them) who shout at them from inside or do performative parenting
..OH WOW DID JOHNNY JUST GO DOWN THE SLIDE ALL BY HIMSELF...

why cant you just use normal voice volume 🙄

It's seems perfectly okay to annoy neighbours or not let them enoy their gardens by screaming and shouting but God forbid if other neighbour who doesn't have kids plays music at a low volume

annamilo · 27/07/2024 11:44

TulsaGirl · 27/07/2024 09:33

When someone comes on one of these threads, gives stupid replies to multiple people, calls people a Karen, calls out people quoting people and starting their little individual arguments with everyone, then calls it "little gang mentality" when multiple people are replying back and having their separate little disputes...then yeah it gets a bit mind numbing in the end. And no I'm not 12, but thanks.

Sorry? How is stating that the child or children may have adhd/autism ridiculous? That’s a tad ignorant. Seriously? The reason I said ‘gang mentality’ was due to two of you going back and forth with each other and making ridiculous comments about me.
being childish that I used a few emojis yet others did too, that’s a pretty pathetic comment.
so I’m not allowed to give my opinion as you have decided that they are ‘stupid’.
i find your replies ‘stupid’ too, everyone is entitled to an opinion, as the saying goes, opinions are like assh*les, everyone has one’ little arguments 🤣 pot, kettle and black come to mind.
I am only ‘arguing’ with you and one other and it wasn’t arguing hun, it was a difference of opinion.
Your replies are ironic and immature

S0livagant · 27/07/2024 11:45

Namechanged11111 · 27/07/2024 10:57

8am is too early.

I don’t understand the entitlement of the posters that think it’s okay.

Obviously their needs trump yours op. The thought of being considerate and parenting their own kids until 9am is totally unreasonable to some people.

What makes it 'entitlement' at 8am but not 9am? We all have preferred sleeping hours but night time hours with regard to noise are typically defined as 11pm to 7am. I am more bothered by noise in the evening when I want to relax. We are all different and you can't please everyone.

CustardCreams2 · 27/07/2024 12:15

Does everyone here get up really late or not go into work? Most of the working world would have been up for ages by 8am. It’s really not that early.

S0livagant · 27/07/2024 12:26

CustardCreams2 · 27/07/2024 12:15

Does everyone here get up really late or not go into work? Most of the working world would have been up for ages by 8am. It’s really not that early.

Exactly, I start work at 8am, it's been 7am or half 7 in other jobs. Some people work late hours but you can't expect people to be quiet all of the time, which is why we have defined nighttime hours for noise to suit the majority. I don't like the neighbour teens playing loud ball games after 9pm but just deal with it. I'd much prefer they did it at 8am.

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/07/2024 12:53

Mrsdyna · Yesterday 10:57
No don't go around theirs! They're kids and kids make noise (as you should know) they'll grow out of it in time but right now they need to be playing and have a childhood.”

So “having a childhood” means f**k everyone else now? Jesus.

our adult kids had a great childhood. They were also taught consideration for others.

Bushmillsbabe · 27/07/2024 13:02

MoonAndStarsAndSky · 26/07/2024 10:41

What if your neighbours were to ask your son to adjust his shifts? His late shift pattern is not your neighbour's problem. 8am is a reasonable time I thought you were going to say 6am or something.

Me too, I thought it was going to be super early. I think they are probably already being considerate keeping them in until 8am during their summer holidays. Mine would be out there from 7 if I let them.

We had neighbours moan about ours. But then they had loud music going in their garden until after 11 keeping my children awake when they had school the next day. We reached a compromise - during the week they would turn it down from 8pm, I would keep my children quiet until 8am. Maybe try to reach some compromise with your neighbours, although in think 8am is already pretty reasonable

ThursdayTomorrow · 27/07/2024 13:04

8am is too early. 9am is fine. People who live in close communities need to show consideration for each other.

GanninHyem · 27/07/2024 13:21

If this is effecting your adult son why isn't he doing anything about it? He could easily go round and explain and ask them to keep the screaming and shouting down. Or buy some earplugs. Do you wipe his arse too?

S0livagant · 27/07/2024 13:24

ThursdayTomorrow · 27/07/2024 13:04

8am is too early. 9am is fine. People who live in close communities need to show consideration for each other.

Edited

I believe in consideration but that 8am is already the middle ground.

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 27/07/2024 13:53

sixtyten · 27/07/2024 10:10

Do you know how ‘in my day’ you sound? And how we all know that phenomenon is just poor memory and perception of things in the past?

Do you know how breathtakingly arrogant (not to mention ageist) you sound?

We don't 'all know' anything of the sort.

Thank you. I am not giving @ClaudiaWankleman the satisfaction of a response to her ignorant, vile, ageist comment. Says more about her than it does about me. 😎

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 27/07/2024 13:56

mydogisthebest · 27/07/2024 08:50

Cars are essential for many people. A screaming child is just a nuisance and completely unnecessary unless, of course, they have hurt themselves

This exactly. ^ Ludicrous comparison!

I know one thing; you can tell the people on this thread whose life is being made miserable (or has been in the past!) by badly behaved feral children; and the parents themselves with the badly behaved feral children, who don't give a shit about how their childrens behaviour affects others!

This thread is littered with both!