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Neighbours kids playing outside early…

704 replies

FooFightersFan · 26/07/2024 10:22

It’s the school holidays and I appreciate that by starting this thread I’m going to sound like a right grump, but here goes…

Our garden backs onto two houses, both of which are owned by couples with young kids. All four parents work from home full time.

The kids (youngest 3, all primary school aged) regularly play outside in the gardens. The houses are new build with literally no plants or shrubs. Just lawn surrounded by fence / brick walls. The noise just bounces around as there is nothing to ‘absorb’ it.

I accept that they are noisy when they play because they are young, energetic and kids!

Now that the school summer holidays are well under way, it’s become apparent that getting up and out into the garden at 8am is their routine. And they shout. A lot.
Then at 10am they go inside and there is silence for a while.

I can deal with it, I have 2 kids and I appreciate that’s what kids are like.

and here’s the “but”…

My son works full time and his room overlooks our back garden. He works 12 hour shifts a lot of days, in hospitality. Most shifts mean he is home around 11pm and in bed by midnight. He’s getting increasingly fed up with the neighbour kids’ morning routine.

During term time, the outside playing is just at the weekend. But now it’s a daily occurrence due to the holidays, I really feel for my son, because being woken up 90 mins before he needs to be up for his next shift is pretty miserable.

WIBU to message or pop round to my neighbours and see if they can encourage their kids to be quieter (a big ask) or to not let them out before 9:00.

I’ve become that grumpy neighbour 😩

OP posts:
TulsaGirl · 26/07/2024 23:09

confusedlots · 26/07/2024 23:07

8am isn't early! My DS is usually up around 6am or 6:30am although he'll come down and watch tv until we get up, so he's not out playing in the garden at that time. I'd have no issues with my kids playing out in our garden from around 8am, but probably wouldn't let them out before that.

And you'd be happy letting them scream in the garden at 8am too?

mitogoshi · 26/07/2024 23:10

8am is early whatever your job is, yes I'm getting up at that point but it's not a time for noisy garden play (fine being outside quietly playing)

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 26/07/2024 23:12

TulsaGirl · 26/07/2024 22:57

Putting the word "fucking" into a sentence doesn't make you an angry person. I'm actually really laid back if you knew me, but this isn't reality this is just a forum where people say it how it is when they are bored shitless with stupid comments from people.

Yep this. That poster seems to be getting very wound up on here. I do wonder why. Wink

@annamilo

A bit judgemental of you to make assumptions about someone’s parenting?

I'm sure you are a way better parent than everyone else 🤣

Yes, thank you, my parenting IS better than that of many others I know/have known. I am very good mother, and my 2 daughters - now in their mid to late 20s, are a shining example of my good parenting (and their father's.)

They are both intelligent, hard-working, independent, sensible, law-abiding, successful, highly educated young women. And no-one has ever complained about any bad behaviour from them. And part of the reason for that is the good parenting from myself and their father (my husband.)

Myself, and a few others appear to have hit a raw nerve with you. You seem to be getting quite wound up. Are you OK?

confusedlots · 26/07/2024 23:21

@TulsaGirl well my children aren't prone to screaming, but yes I'd be happy for them to play in the garden at 8am.

TulsaGirl · 26/07/2024 23:23

confusedlots · 26/07/2024 23:21

@TulsaGirl well my children aren't prone to screaming, but yes I'd be happy for them to play in the garden at 8am.

This post was about kids shouting and screaming at 8am. So it's not really comparable if yours a generally much quieter, that's a totally different situation.

TulsaGirl · 26/07/2024 23:23

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 26/07/2024 23:12

Yep this. That poster seems to be getting very wound up on here. I do wonder why. Wink

@annamilo

A bit judgemental of you to make assumptions about someone’s parenting?

I'm sure you are a way better parent than everyone else 🤣

Yes, thank you, my parenting IS better than that of many others I know/have known. I am very good mother, and my 2 daughters - now in their mid to late 20s, are a shining example of my good parenting (and their father's.)

They are both intelligent, hard-working, independent, sensible, law-abiding, successful, highly educated young women. And no-one has ever complained about any bad behaviour from them. And part of the reason for that is the good parenting from myself and their father (my husband.)

Myself, and a few others appear to have hit a raw nerve with you. You seem to be getting quite wound up. Are you OK?

Yeah really strange. I'll probably being told I'm aggressive for saying strange now too 🤣

DrCoconut · 26/07/2024 23:24

I'd say other than occasionally such as if you're having major work done, 9am is the earliest time it's ok to be loud, it fits with the "average" day. Being a morning person doesn't excuse it either, I never go to bed before midnight but I don't scream and shout (or allow others to) at 11:30pm because it is unfair to the neighbours to do so.

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 26/07/2024 23:24

TulsaGirl · 26/07/2024 23:23

This post was about kids shouting and screaming at 8am. So it's not really comparable if yours a generally much quieter, that's a totally different situation.

Exactly! Why are people not grasping this basic and obvious fact?!

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 26/07/2024 23:25

TulsaGirl · 26/07/2024 23:23

Yeah really strange. I'll probably being told I'm aggressive for saying strange now too 🤣

😆

TulsaGirl · 26/07/2024 23:34

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 26/07/2024 23:24

Exactly! Why are people not grasping this basic and obvious fact?!

I know, totally bizarre. Just making their own versions up instead.

grungey · 26/07/2024 23:37

@annamilo you are waaaaayyyyyy over invested in this..... your eager emoji littered responses are embarrassingly too personal and dramatic ..... sorry hon, but I don't think you belong here.

annamilo · 26/07/2024 23:37

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 26/07/2024 23:12

Yep this. That poster seems to be getting very wound up on here. I do wonder why. Wink

@annamilo

A bit judgemental of you to make assumptions about someone’s parenting?

I'm sure you are a way better parent than everyone else 🤣

Yes, thank you, my parenting IS better than that of many others I know/have known. I am very good mother, and my 2 daughters - now in their mid to late 20s, are a shining example of my good parenting (and their father's.)

They are both intelligent, hard-working, independent, sensible, law-abiding, successful, highly educated young women. And no-one has ever complained about any bad behaviour from them. And part of the reason for that is the good parenting from myself and their father (my husband.)

Myself, and a few others appear to have hit a raw nerve with you. You seem to be getting quite wound up. Are you OK?

Oh sweetie, how am I getting wound up? I’m responding to a question the OP asked and giving reasons why the children might be ‘loud’ to her. What part of that can you not grasp?
it’s great that you think so highly of yourself, yet, again, you don’t know if the children where OP lives are perhaps those with additional needs. You state how intelligent your children are and obviously think you are too. If that’s the case then you would understand that there could be reasons why they may be ‘shouting’. What one person would class as noisy, someone else may not.
you cannot judge and say that this particular case is down to bad parenting when you don’t know the children or the parents.
you are very ignorant and condescending. The majority of people here have disagreed with OP.
Again, this is a forum where we give our opinion and I’ve given mine.
just because I don’t agree with you doesn’t mean that I’m wound up or upset.
you want to assume that and that’s fine, but that’s a you issue. 😘

TulsaGirl · 26/07/2024 23:40

grungey · 26/07/2024 23:37

@annamilo you are waaaaayyyyyy over invested in this..... your eager emoji littered responses are embarrassingly too personal and dramatic ..... sorry hon, but I don't think you belong here.

Couldn't have put it better.

annamilo · 26/07/2024 23:42

TulsaGirl · 26/07/2024 23:02

"That worked up" because I said fucking? Are you ok hun?

Yeah hun I am, thank you 😘

TulsaGirl · 26/07/2024 23:43

annamilo · 26/07/2024 23:42

Yeah hun I am, thank you 😘

Brilliant, glad to hear that 😘

Snugglemonkey · 26/07/2024 23:45

newyear2024 · 26/07/2024 10:35

I disagree with the majority, 8am is early, especially for loud noise. Some people are just inconsiderate of their neighbours.

I think so too. I am up at 6 with my baby, but I still think 8 is too early to be kicking off lots of noise. It does not matter if it is legal. It is really inconsiderate.

IneedAbiggerWindchime · 26/07/2024 23:49

I'm lucky I never had an actual screamer. I do think your own children never sound as loud to you as they do to other people. I'm not sure there is anything you can do. At most I think you can ask for quiet until 9am or look forward to when they start school.

You can also get a bit Pollyanna about it. My neighbour's kid has taken up a very annoying hobby. The upside is that I have more freedom to do the things I always wanted to do but never did out of consideration for their quiet. I am enjoying the freedom and activities and don't mind their noise so much now because of it.

GrumpyPanda · 26/07/2024 23:49

YANBU. You'd be on thin ice making demands. But there's no harm in nicely asking for a slightly later play time. That's assuming yiu have an OK relationship with your neighbour. Maybe even suggest your son speaks to them himself if his social skills are up to it?

annamilo · 26/07/2024 23:52

grungey · 26/07/2024 23:37

@annamilo you are waaaaayyyyyy over invested in this..... your eager emoji littered responses are embarrassingly too personal and dramatic ..... sorry hon, but I don't think you belong here.

🤣 sorry? “Eager emoji littered responses’ and you coming in with your overuse of aaaaaayyyyyyyy lol I find it amusing that me stating that children could have adhd/autism and that it’s not always down to parenting seems to trigger a lot of you. Lmao how are they embarrassingly too personal and dramatic? I would love an example. Sorry? I don’t belong here? Sorry, who are you to tell me where I belong? I don’t think you do honey , im entitled to my opinion and to give my two cents. Thank you for giving me your advice, however, I don’t think it’s up to you who posts here, thanks all the same honey 😘

grungey · 26/07/2024 23:55

annamilo · 26/07/2024 23:52

🤣 sorry? “Eager emoji littered responses’ and you coming in with your overuse of aaaaaayyyyyyyy lol I find it amusing that me stating that children could have adhd/autism and that it’s not always down to parenting seems to trigger a lot of you. Lmao how are they embarrassingly too personal and dramatic? I would love an example. Sorry? I don’t belong here? Sorry, who are you to tell me where I belong? I don’t think you do honey , im entitled to my opinion and to give my two cents. Thank you for giving me your advice, however, I don’t think it’s up to you who posts here, thanks all the same honey 😘

I rest my case

annamilo · 26/07/2024 23:57

IneedAbiggerWindchime · 26/07/2024 23:49

I'm lucky I never had an actual screamer. I do think your own children never sound as loud to you as they do to other people. I'm not sure there is anything you can do. At most I think you can ask for quiet until 9am or look forward to when they start school.

You can also get a bit Pollyanna about it. My neighbour's kid has taken up a very annoying hobby. The upside is that I have more freedom to do the things I always wanted to do but never did out of consideration for their quiet. I am enjoying the freedom and activities and don't mind their noise so much now because of it.

I honestly think if she was to ask the neighbour to do that they it would probably cause conflict and make it hard to live there.
I was thinking that maybe the kids could have additional needs and maybe that’s why they are loud.
i work with children on the spectrum and sometimes I end up with a throbbing headache after play time 😂
i don’t agree with some people saying it’s down to parenting without knowing. If it was me I probably wouldn’t say anything as it would be awkward after

annamilo · 26/07/2024 23:59

grungey · 26/07/2024 23:55

I rest my case

Oh seriously? Have you said this to others that also used them to get a point across. Are you ok as you seem very bothered by what someone else is doing ?

Ancestrysos · 27/07/2024 00:02

I don’t let my kids outside in the garden until 10am on weekends and 9am weekdays. But if other neighbours did I wouldn’t complain because it’s their garden at the end of the day.

Snugglemonkey · 27/07/2024 00:05

Barryplopper · 26/07/2024 12:06

If you ended up with neighbours that had a baby that cried throughout the night would you also try to control where in the house they could take the baby to shield your sons ears?

That is really not the same thing at all though!

Snugglemonkey · 27/07/2024 00:12

Gamergirl86 · 26/07/2024 12:07

My 4 year old is up at 5am. We've lived a full morning by the time it's 9am and not letting them out, in our own garden, while the sun isn't too hot, is mad.

Maybe you've forgotten what's ita like to have very young children but screaming comes with the territory.

I feel you would only make the situation worse by asking them to keep quiet, imagine how the parents would feel and the struggle they would have every single day trying to keep them inside for another hour.

Your son could move tp the front room, use ear plugs, but also, 12 -8 is a decent amount of sleep. Most of those parents at the back of your garden are surviving on 5 or 6. I guarantee.

I am up with dc between 5 and 6. They do not ever go out before 9 because I think that is early enough to be on the trampoline and making noise. They do not scream. My one year old knows you go inside if you scream after being told not to. She forgets and screams obvs, she is 1, but then we go inside for a few minutes and I say that we cannot be outside and screaming. It is why my older dc knocked screaming on the head while still toddling.

Screaming only comes with the territory when children are not taught to do better.