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Neighbours kids playing outside early…

704 replies

FooFightersFan · 26/07/2024 10:22

It’s the school holidays and I appreciate that by starting this thread I’m going to sound like a right grump, but here goes…

Our garden backs onto two houses, both of which are owned by couples with young kids. All four parents work from home full time.

The kids (youngest 3, all primary school aged) regularly play outside in the gardens. The houses are new build with literally no plants or shrubs. Just lawn surrounded by fence / brick walls. The noise just bounces around as there is nothing to ‘absorb’ it.

I accept that they are noisy when they play because they are young, energetic and kids!

Now that the school summer holidays are well under way, it’s become apparent that getting up and out into the garden at 8am is their routine. And they shout. A lot.
Then at 10am they go inside and there is silence for a while.

I can deal with it, I have 2 kids and I appreciate that’s what kids are like.

and here’s the “but”…

My son works full time and his room overlooks our back garden. He works 12 hour shifts a lot of days, in hospitality. Most shifts mean he is home around 11pm and in bed by midnight. He’s getting increasingly fed up with the neighbour kids’ morning routine.

During term time, the outside playing is just at the weekend. But now it’s a daily occurrence due to the holidays, I really feel for my son, because being woken up 90 mins before he needs to be up for his next shift is pretty miserable.

WIBU to message or pop round to my neighbours and see if they can encourage their kids to be quieter (a big ask) or to not let them out before 9:00.

I’ve become that grumpy neighbour 😩

OP posts:
Anuta77 · 26/07/2024 21:54

Mrsdyna · 26/07/2024 10:57

No don't go around theirs! They're kids and kids make noise (as you should know) they'll grow out of it in time but right now they need to be playing and have a childhood.

Where I used to live, neighboors were complaining about kids playing at ANY time. I think at 8 am, they could be more quiet. She should definetely try to ask.

SherlockHolmess · 26/07/2024 21:54

Personally I don’t let DC out till 8.30 as I think that’s considerate.

But I don’t think you can complain about 8am. Any earlier yes.

Anuta77 · 26/07/2024 21:58

EatTheGnome · 26/07/2024 11:09

They would absolutely have something to say if your son made disturbing noise between 7pm and 11pm, as he would be in his legal rights to do evening it disturbs the kids bedtimes.

Exactly what I was going to say, how about the OPs son blasts loud music to relax after work?

Anuta77 · 26/07/2024 21:59

Soluckyinlove · 26/07/2024 11:15

I think you need a bargaining chip!

Maybe one of your household should take up a new musical instrument. Violin, bagpipes, trumpet or similar and take to practising outdoors for a couple hours a day, near their boundary. Win, win. Either you learn a new skill or the neighbours may come round to ask you to practise indoors and you strike a compromise with their child noise.

This! LOOOOOL

4timesthefun · 26/07/2024 22:01

Can you go for white noise? Either an individual machine or on a phone/ipad? We have 4 kids and they aren’t very considerate of each other. White noise is a lifesaver, as sleeping with earplugs seems a bit shit!

Oldermum84 · 26/07/2024 22:05

I agree with you OP. 8am is early (and I'm up at 6:30 most days). I wouldn't let my DC make noise in the garden until after 9am.

ThereIsAMassivePiegeonOnMyFence · 26/07/2024 22:08

newyear2024 · 26/07/2024 10:35

I disagree with the majority, 8am is early, especially for loud noise. Some people are just inconsiderate of their neighbours.

Agree, people on mumsnet are weird about this type of thing. I was told before that I was unreasonable for getting annoyed that my neighbours were running around screaming and thudding on the other side of my bedroom wall from 6am or sometimes earlier. Not early apparently 🤷🏻‍♀️

mano24 · 26/07/2024 22:08

Similar situation , I use a white noise machine which has solved the problem

sixtyten · 26/07/2024 22:12

FluDog · 26/07/2024 20:54

Come on, what would you do if you lived by a busy road? Ask the cars to stop?

Not the same kind of noise at all.

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 26/07/2024 22:17

sixtyten · 26/07/2024 22:12

Not the same kind of noise at all.

Exactly ... I despair for humanity when people think the normal sound of traffic going past, is the same as badly behaved children screaming and shrieking at the top of their voice for hours on end (and starting at 8am.)

As I said, parenting standards have slipped terribly over the past 10-15 years. So many entitled parents too busy on their phones - or watching TV, to parent their children properly, and snidely saying 'ooh if you don't like the sound of my screeching out-of-control children, then get headphones or a white noise machine!' FFS Hmm

sixtyten · 26/07/2024 22:17

my mother was hit as a child, parenting standards haven’t gone to shit,

Of course there have always been crap parents. But there does seem to be a lot more of them now.

annamilo · 26/07/2024 22:21

FooFightersFan · 26/07/2024 17:59

@annamilo 😂
I say that they are shouting but you don’t know if that’s true?
You say you worked in hospitality but we don’t know if that’s true!
🤡

Oh OP was that supposed to be funny?

it’s very evident from the responses towards anyone that disagrees with you that you are just someone who likes to moan.
You post here and clearly want everyone to agree with you.
I don’t give a 💩 if you don’t believe I worked in the industry honey, and I’m sure you aren’t exaggerating anything at all 🤡
Yes, it may be annoying that they make some noise, but after 8am is NOT early and as I’ve stated yet again, your son is getting enough sleep.
i feel so sorry for your neighbours having to live next to someone like you that thinks the world revolves around you and what you want.
imagine being that entitled that you actually were considering going to your neighbours and complaining and then asking them if their children can go out and play later. Seriously! 🙄 you are literally the definition of a Karen.
How do you know the kids don’t have adhd/autism? Go and find a home well away from anyone so you don’t have issues and that people don’t have to live next door to a self entitled Karen

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 26/07/2024 22:22

sixtyten · 26/07/2024 22:17

my mother was hit as a child, parenting standards haven’t gone to shit,

Of course there have always been crap parents. But there does seem to be a lot more of them now.

Yeah this. ^ And more out-of-control, badly behaved, screeching children too.

I can't figure out whether the parents lack the ability to raise them properly, (and control them, and teach them how to behave properly,) or if they just can't be arsed. Bit of both I think.

annamilo · 26/07/2024 22:41

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 26/07/2024 22:17

Exactly ... I despair for humanity when people think the normal sound of traffic going past, is the same as badly behaved children screaming and shrieking at the top of their voice for hours on end (and starting at 8am.)

As I said, parenting standards have slipped terribly over the past 10-15 years. So many entitled parents too busy on their phones - or watching TV, to parent their children properly, and snidely saying 'ooh if you don't like the sound of my screeching out-of-control children, then get headphones or a white noise machine!' FFS Hmm

Edited

How do you know they are badly behaved children? You seem extremely judgemental, maybe the child/children have ADHD or something similar.
you can’t assume its bad parenting.
i find it funny that a 19 year old who seems to be getting enough sleep is so triggered by it. What do they want the children to do? Whisper? The OP is extremely entitled and from the replies she has given to people that don’t agree with her, it’s very clear that she just likes a good old moan

Anuta77 · 26/07/2024 22:41

annamilo · 26/07/2024 22:21

Oh OP was that supposed to be funny?

it’s very evident from the responses towards anyone that disagrees with you that you are just someone who likes to moan.
You post here and clearly want everyone to agree with you.
I don’t give a 💩 if you don’t believe I worked in the industry honey, and I’m sure you aren’t exaggerating anything at all 🤡
Yes, it may be annoying that they make some noise, but after 8am is NOT early and as I’ve stated yet again, your son is getting enough sleep.
i feel so sorry for your neighbours having to live next to someone like you that thinks the world revolves around you and what you want.
imagine being that entitled that you actually were considering going to your neighbours and complaining and then asking them if their children can go out and play later. Seriously! 🙄 you are literally the definition of a Karen.
How do you know the kids don’t have adhd/autism? Go and find a home well away from anyone so you don’t have issues and that people don’t have to live next door to a self entitled Karen

I found the OP very nice and respectful and as usual, tons of people just jumped at her for asking something very reasonable. Happened to me recently where I was vilified for complaining about someone moaning their loan before 7 am. If you worked in hospitality and supported the noise, good for you. OP and her son are disturbed by the noise? They have the right to be unhappy about it. You dont get to decide how much sleep another person needs. How about parents who cant control their kids find a home away from everyone, since the world doesnt revolve around them?

annamilo · 26/07/2024 22:43

HeySummerWhereAreYou · 26/07/2024 22:22

Yeah this. ^ And more out-of-control, badly behaved, screeching children too.

I can't figure out whether the parents lack the ability to raise them properly, (and control them, and teach them how to behave properly,) or if they just can't be arsed. Bit of both I think.

Edited

A bit judgemental of you to make assumptions about someone’s parenting? What if the child or children have ADHD or something similar?
im sure you are a way better parent than everyone else 🤣

TulsaGirl · 26/07/2024 22:52

Workhardcryharder · 26/07/2024 21:12

Get their kids in!!!!! I’ve heard it all now. Screw the vitamin d and get them on their iPads!

Grow some resilience. You clearly have none

At 8am ffs! Not all fucking day.

annamilo · 26/07/2024 22:53

Anuta77 · 26/07/2024 22:41

I found the OP very nice and respectful and as usual, tons of people just jumped at her for asking something very reasonable. Happened to me recently where I was vilified for complaining about someone moaning their loan before 7 am. If you worked in hospitality and supported the noise, good for you. OP and her son are disturbed by the noise? They have the right to be unhappy about it. You dont get to decide how much sleep another person needs. How about parents who cant control their kids find a home away from everyone, since the world doesnt revolve around them?

Actually the OP has been funny to a few people that disagree with her.
what everyone is trying to say is that most people are out and about getting to work at that time. There is going to be noise.
its the summer holidays, OP is entitled to enjoy her home in peace, yet her neighbours are entitled to enjoy their home and garden too.
If they are a bit noisy, it could be that the children have additional needs. Assuming that it’s parents that can’t control their kids is extremely judgemental of you.
If they were making noise before 8 then that would be unreasonable, however, it’s at a time where even builders are allowed to start working.
The OP can get things to make it easier. If she decides to go to her neighbours and complain about their kids and ask them to be quieter I can guarantee that she would cause a conflict and rightly so.
Also, please tell me where I said how long her son should sleep? Look it up it says recommended hours of sleep for different ages but you decided to deliberately misunderstand my comment 🙄

annamilo · 26/07/2024 22:53

TulsaGirl · 26/07/2024 22:52

At 8am ffs! Not all fucking day.

Why are you so angry 😂

TulsaGirl · 26/07/2024 22:57

annamilo · 26/07/2024 22:53

Why are you so angry 😂

Putting the word "fucking" into a sentence doesn't make you an angry person. I'm actually really laid back if you knew me, but this isn't reality this is just a forum where people say it how it is when they are bored shitless with stupid comments from people.

FluDog · 26/07/2024 22:57

sixtyten · 26/07/2024 22:12

Not the same kind of noise at all.

It's noise from outside 🤷‍♂️

annamilo · 26/07/2024 22:59

TulsaGirl · 26/07/2024 22:57

Putting the word "fucking" into a sentence doesn't make you an angry person. I'm actually really laid back if you knew me, but this isn't reality this is just a forum where people say it how it is when they are bored shitless with stupid comments from people.

Well actually putting ‘fucking’ in a sentence is agressive and if you get that worked up on here then maybe take some time off 😂

TulsaGirl · 26/07/2024 23:02

annamilo · 26/07/2024 22:59

Well actually putting ‘fucking’ in a sentence is agressive and if you get that worked up on here then maybe take some time off 😂

"That worked up" because I said fucking? Are you ok hun?

Dino11 · 26/07/2024 23:06

I can never understand why people can’t just explain these things to their children, if mine wanted to go outside early I used to tell them they had to keep it down as other people may be still sleeping, or they’d have to come back inside! I feel your pain OP, my partner works full time nights and I dread the summer holidays for the neighbourhood kids all flying about screaming and arguing outside the window! Ear plugs are a good idea

confusedlots · 26/07/2024 23:07

8am isn't early! My DS is usually up around 6am or 6:30am although he'll come down and watch tv until we get up, so he's not out playing in the garden at that time. I'd have no issues with my kids playing out in our garden from around 8am, but probably wouldn't let them out before that.