To be really sick of supermarkets treating paying customers like scum

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Sainsbury's traps you in the self service pen of shame until you scan your receipt like a good little girl

Tesco won't take the security tags off your wine until you've not only paid but they've examined your receipt in detail to make sure your wine is paid for - sort of a performance so you remember your place

Waitrose makes a bit song and dance about doing the rescan of self scanning shops (I don't do self scanning because why would I sign up for this extra work?)

Just in Lidl and my wine set off the security alarm even though I've had the tags taken off and the security guard chased me out the door to try to get me to show him inside my bags (er no fuck off pal)

Aldi staff try to look in your shopping bags as you queue

Does anywhere NOT get a kick out of treating their profit drivers like filth any more?

I will probably just have to live off UHPs from the local Greggs at this rate

Well your whole argument is taking issue with being presumed to be a thief, so surely a ticket inspector asking to see proof that you thought a ticket is doubting your innocence?

I don't 'kick off'. There are things I don't like. If I'm able to I just take my custom elsewhere. I put up with what I need to.

exactly

simply doesn’t make sense

well you’re hardly likely to admit to it are you

What? Why does it matter to you what I feel uncomfortable with? It doesn't matter to me if it doesn't make sense to you.

Sure, but people shoplifting is hardly going to help the cost of food for the rest of us who pay, is it?

curious about how you square ticket inspectors requiring you to show your ticket or be kicked off at next station (and fined) on trains with your views on train ticket barriers

They are trying to protect themselves from the sort of audacious theft that is all over sm, at a time when the news is full of how the police aren't always able to support them when they're called. I don't mind any of the measures you've mentioned - they're not for me, they're a deterrent to shoplifting scum.

To me it's no different to traffic cameras treating everyone like speeding, dangerous drivers or cctv treating everyone like antisocial petty criminals.

This!

brace yourself for a thread from the OP bitching about delivery drivers

Ocado

I lock my door to stop people wandering in and robbing stuff so I support businesses who take steps to protect themselves from crime too.

Luckily it's not compulsory and customers who don't like it are free to go elsewhere. I doubt there'll be enough objections to make a dent in their profits, otherwise they wouldn't do it in the first place.

They aren't 'views'. It's about how things make me feel. I've had enough of trying to explain how I feel. I'm ND, so I'm used to not being understood. It's not a problem.

I agree with the OP that the supermarket experience has gone downhill, and customers are treated like shit. My solution is to avoid and go elsewhere. Vote with your wallet. Stepping away from this thread now.

so to be clear

cool with ticket inspectors
loathe ticket barriers

The actual cost of the whole delivery process is more than you pay.

Really? I didn't know that. No bakery at all? What about Greggs do they sell loaves of bread?

Yes, lots of stations don't have barriers. Most of ours do now but not all.

There are no barriers on the DLR at Beckton.

I agree with @S0livagant ticket barriers make me feel tense. A ticket inspector while I'm sitting down and don't need to rush is better. I don't worry about being kicked off as I have a ticket.

@Sunshineandpool Greggs haven't sold actual loaves of bread for a few years now.
Where I live there are a few posh bakeries where you do actually have to pay a fiver or so for a loaf of bread. They really aren't "weekly shop" kind of places.
Stand alone butchers, fishmongers and green grocers do seem quite common and there's lots around - but a regular bakery with a ordinary farmhouse loaf or some crusty cobs are hard to find.
As for home delivery - if supermarkets aren't making enough to cover home delivery I would happily pay more.
For me it's about convenience and the fact I struggle with bags of shopping. Just today a trip to Poundland for shower gels, a large bottles of bubble bath and some shampoo and I could barely lift the bag.
Cost me about a fiver in bus/train fare to get there and back - I would happily pay that fiver for home delivery.

@Needmorelego get a shopping trolley! I have a small one, it's so useful.

@Seymour5 I've got one !! But I can't fit a weeks worth of shopping in it 🙂

I don't understand why there are so many threads complying about the supermarket experience, when ( if), there is the option of delivery

I agree. Great for a few heavy bits though, wine for instance 😀

Well they are completely different. Inspectors are human for a start. And you can have a conversation with them id something wrong. I remember being on the other train line on last train and barriers wouldn't open and no staff to be seen. Not pleasant. An inspector much better