“I don’t respect your opinion”

[Gc1992]

Me and my partner were discussing that video in the airport with a police officer kicking someone in the head. I said it didn’t seem right, he said it’s justified. (He did used to be a police officer). Anyway we ended up having an argument and he said he has no respect for my opinion and doesn’t value it on something I have no experience in. He also said he’s fed up of my leftist liberal attitude. Lol. Not very nice or am I being sensitive?

Did anyone not read about what happened before this though?? He had attacked several police officers , caused severe injuries and tried to remove their firearms. Forgive me for not giving a fuck.

Yeah I commented similar but he was down already and it was pure viscousness. He should have been handcuffed but it didn't took like he was. No excusing this behaviour. Sorry.

Why is he a former Police Officer, did he resign or was he pushed.
Disrespectful not to respect your opinions. Who dies he think he is.

To be honest, I know you’re 💯 right. I might think he deserves a kick in the head because of what he did. BUT… no, a police officer should obviously not be doing that. Especially when he was already down on the ground and immobile. My anger got the better of me for a second. (Although I’ve never kicked anyone in my life!) I couldn’t do their job.

Makes you wonder what he got up to whilst in the force!

@Lilysienna1 I think I that's the difference isn't it. He's acted like a thug/criminal with that. Not a trained police officer. I'm not shocked easily but I recoiled. Could have killed him with those stomping boots too.

Something small and white goes flying too and I think it's his tooth 😬

I wonder how far back along the bad-behaviour spectrum your DP thinks someone has to go before it actually DOES become unacceptable to kick them in the head when they're lying on the ground? Presumably at that point then we step it down to just punching being acceptable, then back a bit further where punching is too much but a little slap is ok?
You are entitled to an opinion, based on the facts available to you. Your view is worthy of respect because YOU are worthy of respect. Please don't let anyone try to persuade you otherwise.

Exactly this. Thank you for replying to me without attacking me for my original comment. I had an instant feeling of anger upon reading what had happened, and shamefully thought ‘good.’ But this is why I’m not a police officer or in any kind of similar profession. I feel like I could snap if pushed- and seeing my female colleague with a broken nose may just be that snapping point! And of course, I know they deal with worse! Definitely inexcusable.

@Lilysienna1 have a fuckin word with yourself. Absolutely no justification for that level of violence towards an unarmed and subdued person.
‘Forgive me for not giving a fuck’…well let’s just hope you or your family members are never on the receiving end of police brutality eh. As for what happened prior, that’s a statement from the GMP as a means of damage limitation and attempted justification of the officers actions and if you can’t see that, then more fool you. I’ve no doubt there was a level of violence towards the officers at some point but there is absolutely no justifiable context to support what we all saw on that footage.

I have commented on this above. You are right!

I also hadn’t considered the damage limitation angle either.

@Lilysienna1 sorry, yes just seen you had commented as I had typed my reply . Apologies for my aggressive response, watching the videos has just brought out a level of anger in me today and seeing comments online supporting the officers actions just fills me with rage 😤

This.

If it makes someone angry that you have a different opinion that you expressed reasonably, it's on them to deal with their frustration.

If someone told me they didn't like my attitude it would make me do it more TBH.

That should read 'I know this totally'. There, I fixed it for you.

No, no you were quite right in your response! I read about the incident before I watched the video and my genuine first thought was it would be justified as self defence (and will admit I really did think ‘good! He deserves it.’) But we all know it is not self defence when someone cannot defend themselves. If I did that to someone, laying on the ground - and that’s without them actually being tasered- and I then went for a kick in the head, I would rightfully find myself in trouble with the law. I fully expect this officer to lose his job, but will he actually be charged with anything?? Or is it likely to be ‘brushed under the carpet’ somehow??

Maybe avoid these types of conversations with your partner. I was talking to a police officer friend about abused kids becoming criminals and crime being a social problem. He then showed me freshly healed burn scars and said that a few weeks back someone he was trying to arrest had emptied lighter fuel on him and set him alight. He was already back at work.

Police officers face stresses that the average person can’t really relate to including child abuse and road fatalities. I still stand by my opinions about police brutality, but i wouldn’t try to get into an argument with an individual police officer from the comfort of my safe boring office job.

He sounds like a thick cunt tbf.

He has no experience of being a victim of police brutality so you can discount his opinion too then

It sounds like your partner (and all those effectively advocating police violence) needs a PACE refresher...

www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/advice_information/can-police-use-force/

He sounds like a twat. I'm a police officer and agree with you. I can think of very very few examples where it's acceptable to kick someone in the head while on they're in the floor. One being if they were pointing a loaded gun at someone. Other than that, I'd struggle to see the justification. As for him saying he doesn't respect your opinion is wrong..he may not agree with it but thatsa different thing.

I cannot imagine being married to someone who could justify that.

Police really are a certain 'type' aren't they?

Indoctrination, personality type or stresses of the job?

I dunno, but I've encountered way too may racist/aggressive/arsehole copper husbands of friends to think it's a coincidence.

OF COURSE THERE ARE MANY GOOD ONES before I get jumped on 🙄

So, if there are 'many good ones', what would you say was the 'certain type' you identify police as being?

I wouldn't date someone who thought being disgusted with police brutality was woke/far left/ liberalist etc. I guess I wouldn't ever date an ex cop. Our values would probably misalign.
Of course there's more to the story, there was an incident that quickly escalated to the scene we all witnessed in the video.
But any decent person who saw that footage in isolation would be shocked, disgusted and fear a repeat of the George Floyd murder.

There's nothing wrong with being leftie liberal. It means that you're not selfish and having a nice life at the expense or exploitation of others.

You think that what you're not giving a fuck about is the bloke on the ground. But actually what you're not giving a fuck about is the law.

As a copper's kid, I find it very difficult to give any credence to the views of someone who says they don't give a fuck about the law.