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To apply for DLA for DD when we have a household income of over 300k?

535 replies

Milesandmilesandmiles · 24/07/2024 16:14

Just that really - we have an autistic daughter who needs support with most things (although is in mainstream school). Between us DH and I earn over 300k, so we don’t need the money. However, conscious that we won’t be around for ever and we could save it for DD’s needs as she grows. But is this what state benefits are for?

OP posts:
BobbyBiscuits · 24/07/2024 18:32

I don't think it's means tested if it's the same rules as PIP. So yes, anyone can apply.
I guess some might say you don't 'need' the money, but it's not like your taking it out of someone else's benefits. It's what that benefit is meant for. If they only wanted it to go to low income people then they'd have it means tested.

x2boys · 24/07/2024 18:32

Nappyvalley15 · 24/07/2024 18:23

I was joking about the school fees issue. I know it wouldn't touch the sides.

As a parent with a neurodiverse DC in PS I know how little sympathy we get on here.

I think I am old school - I see benefits as something you apply for when you need it. Parenting a neurodiverse child is challenging. So the OP may need money down the road, but for now seems able to cover the costs.

The Op,s daughter wouldnt Necessarily qualify as it goes off need not diagnosis,and the autism spectrum is huge
But if she does its because has significant needs

GoodieMcTwoshoes · 24/07/2024 18:36

Get all the help you can for her @Milesandmilesandmiles . That's just being a good parent. x

Having the DLA assessment showing her needs will also help you be able to get other support/resources for her.

youareonlyhereonce · 24/07/2024 18:39

Goslingsforlife · 24/07/2024 16:39

DLA is for children only. After 16 it's PIP. there is nothing infinite with dla

My DB has been on DLA since the age of 11 - he's 28 and still gets DLA - an indefinite award. (He has ASD) and my DM uses the DLA for him.

IClaudine · 24/07/2024 18:40

Rosscameasdoody · 24/07/2024 18:23

Don’t be so sure. The consultation paper is due to close and the new government is looking very carefully at the results. They’ve been tight lipped when it comes to disability benefits, and as always, the disabled are the low hanging fruit when it comes to cuts. Labour doesn’t necessarily equal fair.

My guess is that the government will kick the consultation (which has now closed) on PIP reform into the long grass.

Introducing vouchers would be a major change to PIP requiring primary legislation. There was nothing in the King's Speech to give Parliamentary time to this.

Vouchers were a batshit idea dreamed up by a toxic Tory government in its death throes.

Osborne tried to introduce something along the same lines, but much less draconian (disability aids instead of PIP). He got his arse absolutely kicked, ministers were kicked off disability charity boards and Osborne swiftly dropped the idea. Same would happen if Labour went down the vouchers route and Starmer knows this.

youareonlyhereonce · 24/07/2024 18:41

LostTheMarble · 24/07/2024 16:40

It depends on many factors. First application usually gets you a 2 year award (sometimes 1 year). Typically if needs haven’t changed and aren’t expected to, the next award is until aged 12 (sometimes until 16), or may give a higher/lower award or even stop it altogether.

All DLA stops after the age of 16 (with some leeway) and moves over to a PIP application. At which point you have to either nominate yourself as the person advocate or it can go to the person themselves.

My DB gets DLA - he's 28 and has an indefinite award since the age of 11 - so not necessarily.

x2boys · 24/07/2024 18:43

Sirzy · 24/07/2024 17:09

I have never had to sign something and send it back (ds been getting DLA for about 10 years now)

I have filled in the form, had a letter to say I am the nominated person and then the decision and that’s it other than letters about Christmas bonus (ha!) and new years rates.

Me either ,my son is 14 now and he's been getting DLA since he was 3 nobody asks whatsit gets spent on.

TheKeatingFive · 24/07/2024 18:43

I wouldn't hesitate.

It's for her, not you. It isn't means tested. It might make access to other services easier later on.

A no brainer.

youareonlyhereonce · 24/07/2024 18:43

SummerFeelsLikeAutumn · 24/07/2024 16:49

I agree with this. If people don’t need the money it shouldn’t be claimed. There’s so many families living on a lot less than £300k, struggling to get to the end of the month and who have to claim DLA to give their children the things they need. I’m sure in another world anyone on £300k a year wouldn’t even consider claiming as I’m assuming on that wage there will be some sort of inheritance left as well as savings. I haven’t seen the OP reply as yet and I’m wondering of this is one of these posts made simply to be inflammatory?

Yes - she's lit the touch paper on this one .....thinking it's a troll poster

x2boys · 24/07/2024 18:46

youareonlyhereonce · 24/07/2024 18:41

My DB gets DLA - he's 28 and has an indefinite award since the age of 11 - so not necessarily.

That must be very rare ,most people were moved over to PIP
Generally speaking DLA is children up 16 and PIP for 16 +

LostTheMarble · 24/07/2024 18:47

youareonlyhereonce · 24/07/2024 18:41

My DB gets DLA - he's 28 and has an indefinite award since the age of 11 - so not necessarily.

The rules have changed. Every child who’s in receipt of DLA has to apply for PIP once they’re 16 (18 in Scotland I believe). It’s because often things are quickly changeable with children’s needs. I can easily evidence my son hasn’t cognitively developed since he was two and they only gave an 18 month award last time I applied due to this reasoning. Hopefully it will be recognised that he needs high care for a long time when I have to do his third application this winter.

Grasshopper7 · 24/07/2024 18:47

We're high earners and are going through the process of applying for DLA. I feel no guilt whatsoever. We pay an extortionate amount of tax and receive zero other benefits.

rainbowsandinfinitesparkles · 24/07/2024 18:48

We are a higher income family but not quite as high as yourselves. We claim DLA as it's a gateway benefit in many respects, it can make getting a blue badge easier if needed, access to sen passes or quieter sessions at days out. Even school took us more seriously once he was awarded. Whether it's true or not I don't know as we are many years away but I was told it can help when applying for pip if they have already had a DLA award.

Goslingsforlife · 24/07/2024 18:49

youareonlyhereonce · 24/07/2024 18:39

My DB has been on DLA since the age of 11 - he's 28 and still gets DLA - an indefinite award. (He has ASD) and my DM uses the DLA for him.

That award was made 17 years ago. Rules have changed and DLA now stops at 16 for new applicants. They do not do infinite awards anymore and if couldn't therefore happen to OP in any case.

LostTheMarble · 24/07/2024 18:49

Grasshopper7 · 24/07/2024 18:47

We're high earners and are going through the process of applying for DLA. I feel no guilt whatsoever. We pay an extortionate amount of tax and receive zero other benefits.

Good, you shouldn’t. You’re doing the right thing by your child and their future.

angryoldwoman · 24/07/2024 18:49

DLA is for extra costs incurred due to disability. You incur these costs, therefore you are entitled to claim.

If you want to save money for her, do that from your income.

You should claim what you're entitled to IMO. Everyone else does.

countrysidelife2024 · 24/07/2024 18:49

Personally i would

DragonFly98 · 24/07/2024 18:50

Yes apply as pp says the money is for your daughter and as a child she has no other income. Whether you can afford her disability costs or not is irreverent,dla is meant to cover the extra costs of having a disabled child putting you on the same financial position as another family with a £300k income without a disabled child.

Grasshopper7 · 24/07/2024 18:52

@LostTheMarble

Thank you for that comment. It actually made me cry, so I suppose I must have some guilt there after all! It's all just such a struggle to get any support.

Rainbowsponge · 24/07/2024 18:54

There are 2 streams of thought here.

1, what you can legally do.
2, what you can morally do.

Yeah you’re ‘entitled’ to it but could you sleep at night knowing our country is skint and you’re claiming an extra £50 a week that you can easily, easily afford yourself to put away for her?

Rainbowsponge · 24/07/2024 18:56

TheKeatingFive · 24/07/2024 18:43

I wouldn't hesitate.

It's for her, not you. It isn't means tested. It might make access to other services easier later on.

A no brainer.

Her DD has enough, she’s been born into wealth and privilege. This isn’t equity, it’s greed.

LostTheMarble · 24/07/2024 18:58

Grasshopper7 · 24/07/2024 18:52

@LostTheMarble

Thank you for that comment. It actually made me cry, so I suppose I must have some guilt there after all! It's all just such a struggle to get any support.

I’ve been there. I actually applied for my second child first and felt almost silly applying for my eldest. It was absolutely the right thing to do - his needs grew so much in the following couple of years and as I said above it has been a godsend in using as evidence of his needs without having to go through all the hard paperwork that DLA entails. ‘My son has been deemed as High Rate Care from DLA so why are you not recognising this’ - shit that it has to come to that but at least it’s in place for him. It is a bloody struggle, and it’s made harder by people like on here simply not understanding what a fight every day can be from every bloody direction - you’re doing great and don’t have a moment of doubt or guilt!

PAYEohYEAY · 24/07/2024 19:00

Grasshopper7 · 24/07/2024 18:47

We're high earners and are going through the process of applying for DLA. I feel no guilt whatsoever. We pay an extortionate amount of tax and receive zero other benefits.

Too bloody right.

I've applied too, I expect my DC will be awarded Lower Rate. That's less than £1250 per year. To put it into context, I paid almost £30k in tax last year. So why shouldn't I get a fraction of that back? If it makes you feel better, see it as a 'tax relief' on some
of the masses of tax you pay.

LostTheMarble · 24/07/2024 19:00

Rainbowsponge · 24/07/2024 18:56

Her DD has enough, she’s been born into wealth and privilege. This isn’t equity, it’s greed.

Wealth and privilege that may not always be available and certainly may not be something she may be able to earn like her parents have. DLA is for her to recognise what may be a lifetime of struggle due to disability that may hinder her from personal economic development through no fault of her own. Her parents can’t magic up disability support simply from having good jobs. If people like David Cameron could recognise that, why can’t you.

PAYEohYEAY · 24/07/2024 19:01

Rainbowsponge · 24/07/2024 18:54

There are 2 streams of thought here.

1, what you can legally do.
2, what you can morally do.

Yeah you’re ‘entitled’ to it but could you sleep at night knowing our country is skint and you’re claiming an extra £50 a week that you can easily, easily afford yourself to put away for her?

Yep, can sleep perfectly well thanks. Me claiming doesn't affect you claiming.

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