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To apply for DLA for DD when we have a household income of over 300k?

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Milesandmilesandmiles · 24/07/2024 16:14

Just that really - we have an autistic daughter who needs support with most things (although is in mainstream school). Between us DH and I earn over 300k, so we don’t need the money. However, conscious that we won’t be around for ever and we could save it for DD’s needs as she grows. But is this what state benefits are for?

OP posts:
ElecticBetty · 24/07/2024 16:39

ElecticBetty · 24/07/2024 16:37

Yanbu! Everything needs to be documented and support needs all seem to stack on top of each other. Ehcp builds the DLA, DLA supports PIP etc etc.

get DLA, spend it or put it in a trust for her it doesn’t matter. But claim what she’s owed. Even if you pay the DLA money in to support charities with her difficulties etc

Oh, and claim it on behalf of the shite government and DWP and stats arseholes who number crunch.

your daughters claim only goes to help inform statistically how many children need support a year. Let her number count on behalf of those whose parents deserve but fail to claim DLA, or don’t know it exists etc.

Puravida23 · 24/07/2024 16:40

Dosent sit comfortably with me. The benefits system exists to support those in need who cannot support themselves. This is not the case here. Ultimately there are only so many funds available the government dosent have an unlimited money tree.
If people not in need start claiming this may ultimately result in cuts in benefits for those who need it. I would see it as my social duty not to claim for benefits I don’t need but ultimately it is your choice you are within your right to claim if you wish, plenty of people do

LostTheMarble · 24/07/2024 16:40

youareonlyhereonce · 24/07/2024 16:34

Is it a fixed award or an indefinite award ? If it's the fixed I would claim - then when you reapply she may be assessed as not needing it.
Morally on 300k - that's a question only you feel comfortable with.

It depends on many factors. First application usually gets you a 2 year award (sometimes 1 year). Typically if needs haven’t changed and aren’t expected to, the next award is until aged 12 (sometimes until 16), or may give a higher/lower award or even stop it altogether.

All DLA stops after the age of 16 (with some leeway) and moves over to a PIP application. At which point you have to either nominate yourself as the person advocate or it can go to the person themselves.

DancingLions · 24/07/2024 16:41

If you're entitled to claim it then you aren't doing anything wrong. Although it wouldn't sit right with me on that income. The pot is limited and people have to really fight to get it. I wouldn't feel right about claiming and someone else missing out who really needs it.

Onlywayisupmaybe · 24/07/2024 16:41

Sirzy · 24/07/2024 16:26

It’s not means tested, if she is eligible then you have just as much right to claim it as anyone else.

This

BrumToTheRescue · 24/07/2024 16:41

youareonlyhereonce · 24/07/2024 16:34

Is it a fixed award or an indefinite award ? If it's the fixed I would claim - then when you reapply she may be assessed as not needing it.
Morally on 300k - that's a question only you feel comfortable with.

Claimants wouldn’t know if they had been given a fixed award for a period of time or an award until transfer to PIP (wouldn’t be indefinite for a child on DLA) before applying.

MouseofCommons · 24/07/2024 16:42

Yanbu. If nothing else it should trigger some extra support for you. I get covid boosters because DD gets DLA.

Bananaspread · 24/07/2024 16:42

IMO all benefits should be a last resort safety net for the times when individuals, families and communities can’t manage or won’t help.

BrumToTheRescue · 24/07/2024 16:43

MouseofCommons · 24/07/2024 16:42

Yanbu. If nothing else it should trigger some extra support for you. I get covid boosters because DD gets DLA.

Carers didn’t need the person they cared for to get DLA (or PIP or AA).

Mrsjayy · 24/07/2024 16:44

Bananaspread · 24/07/2024 16:42

IMO all benefits should be a last resort safety net for the times when individuals, families and communities can’t manage or won’t help.

Disability benefits are for individual needs it isn't about family helping out or "communities helping " whatever that means

AndForAFortnightThereWeWereForever · 24/07/2024 16:46

You can apply for DLA and PIP no matter what your income, but I wouldn't if I had a household income of a third of a million a year. JMO. @Milesandmilesandmiles

kitchendiscotime · 24/07/2024 16:48

You are paying a huge amount into the system. I see absolutely nothing wrong with receiving a relatively small amount back for the benefit of your disabled child.

Simonjt · 24/07/2024 16:48

DLA/PIP is not means tested.

The Camerons rightly claimed DLA for their son. It isn’t just the small amount of financial support, DLA/PIP can open other gates such as a blue badge, carers passes for public transport, attractions, theatre shows etc.

My husband claimed PIP, his disability was fairly pricey, but he needed PIP to access support where you had to be in receipt of PIP to gain that support. Due to his particular disability he needed his proof of PIP to gain a freedom pass, during covid it meant he was a priority for online shopping etc.

Where we used to live children in mainstream school could only gain specialist transport if they had DLA, an EHCP alone wasn’t enough.

FridayFeelingmidweek · 24/07/2024 16:48

Yes apply for it! You never know what expenses could come up and the money could (and obviously should) be used to help her with her diagnosis. It's a benefit that not enough parents know about so apply and tell other people about it.

SummerFeelsLikeAutumn · 24/07/2024 16:49

Puravida23 · 24/07/2024 16:40

Dosent sit comfortably with me. The benefits system exists to support those in need who cannot support themselves. This is not the case here. Ultimately there are only so many funds available the government dosent have an unlimited money tree.
If people not in need start claiming this may ultimately result in cuts in benefits for those who need it. I would see it as my social duty not to claim for benefits I don’t need but ultimately it is your choice you are within your right to claim if you wish, plenty of people do

I agree with this. If people don’t need the money it shouldn’t be claimed. There’s so many families living on a lot less than £300k, struggling to get to the end of the month and who have to claim DLA to give their children the things they need. I’m sure in another world anyone on £300k a year wouldn’t even consider claiming as I’m assuming on that wage there will be some sort of inheritance left as well as savings. I haven’t seen the OP reply as yet and I’m wondering of this is one of these posts made simply to be inflammatory?

Simonjt · 24/07/2024 16:50

Bananaspread · 24/07/2024 16:42

IMO all benefits should be a last resort safety net for the times when individuals, families and communities can’t manage or won’t help.

How will the local community enable my husbands arms and hands to work?

rainbowunicorn · 24/07/2024 16:50

Billyballyboo · 24/07/2024 16:28

You would be unreasonable to save the money. DLA is for the extra costs associated with a disability. She either needs it for day to day living or she doesn't.

So they spend tne DLA on the daughter and then save that amount from their own income if that makes it better. Why should they not claim on behalf of their daughter. By your reckoning nobody should be able to save anything if they claim any benefits which isn't what happens in real life.

ebadame · 24/07/2024 16:51

TwoBlueFish · 24/07/2024 16:19

You aren’t supposed to save DLA, it’s for the extra costs associated with having a disability. If she has extra costs then yes apply. Be aware that if you expect that she will be on income related benefits (such as universal credit) as an adult then she will not be eligible if she has more than £16k savings in her name.

Then they can use the money given in DLA and save the equivalent out of their other income

Summermightbegreat · 24/07/2024 16:51

You pay tax and I actually think you'd make a great example of people who moan about 'their tax funding benefits', because it would show people that ANYONE could end up needing welfare support, no matter how much harder they believe they work than others because they have a higher paid job.

Like others have said, some things you can only access easily with DLA- blue badge for example, accessible seats in places, accessible queue at theme parks.

Another point is, it would help her to be able to move onto PİP age 18 if she's already getting DLA. İn the future her disabilities may affect her in different and more expensive ways, and you never know what tomorrow holds, work wise. Do it now, then it'll be done.

ebadame · 24/07/2024 16:51

rainbowunicorn · 24/07/2024 16:50

So they spend tne DLA on the daughter and then save that amount from their own income if that makes it better. Why should they not claim on behalf of their daughter. By your reckoning nobody should be able to save anything if they claim any benefits which isn't what happens in real life.

Ah snap!

samarrange · 24/07/2024 16:51

Go for it. If the government has intended for it to be means-tested, they would have made it so (and FWIW I think it should be means-tested).

There's nothing wrong with having a morally neutral relationship with the state. It makes you pay taxes, it offers services, there are rules and if you stick by them, that's your obligations discharged. Similarly if you need a substantial operation tomorrow and you opt to have it on the NHS instead of via the private insurance that I guess you might have, perhaps because you like the surgeon better, that's your choice. Taking this money is absolutely not the same as seeing that your local foodbank has received a big glut of apples and taking a few from the "help yourself if you can't afford fruit" table for yourself because they look delicious.

Onlywayisupmaybe · 24/07/2024 16:52

You are entitled to it OP so there is nothing wrong in claiming it. Ignore the posters saying you shouldn’t, your income is irrelevant.

Octavia64 · 24/07/2024 16:52

It's not necessarily about the money.

It will entitle her to disability adjustments in a lot of places and will also be evidence towards and EHCP at school if needed and PIP when she turns 16.

Summermightbegreat · 24/07/2024 16:52

ebadame · 24/07/2024 16:51

Then they can use the money given in DLA and save the equivalent out of their other income

DLA goes into your bank account so how would you differentiate whether you're spending the DLA or your wages?

ebadame · 24/07/2024 16:53

If you think you are eligible then please apply OP

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