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All women and people with a cervix every five years now smear test

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justasking111 · 20/07/2024 12:35

Five years in Wales is this the norm in England, Scotland, Ireland?

Our surgery put it up on their FB page this week.

It was three years here last time I checked.

Yabu it's fine no reason to be concerned

Yanbu it's too big a gap.

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DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 20/07/2024 12:50

Hapagirl48 · 20/07/2024 12:38

I was told it’s every five years last time I went for my smear. I’m in Scotland. I was told that the testing for early pre-cancerous cells was so good now it only needed to be every 5 years. It doesn't really sit right with me but maybe someone who know more can reassure us.

But they don't test for pre-cancerous cells now do they? Just HPV?

justasking111 · 20/07/2024 12:51

ApoodlecalledPenny · 20/07/2024 12:40

That’s if you’re not HPV+ on your most recent smear. If you are, it’s more frequent. I think it’s a change in how they measure the risk, given the role HPV plays in cervical cancer.

Well my friend had two bad tests so had a procedure. They said all fixed so every three years. She wasn't happy so booked privately after 18 months HPV was present.

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TitusMoan · 20/07/2024 12:51

ToRecordOnlyWater · 20/07/2024 12:48

@ the above replies, transgender men have cervixes too and therefore need to have a smear done. Inclusive language harms no one, and it’s important for everyone to get checked regardless of gender identity and if adding that bit extra on encourages someone to get tested when they mightn’t have otherwise I can’t see it as anything but a good thing.

I was under the impression that if you test positive for HPV, you get more frequent tests which I think is good, I didn’t know the it had changed from 3 to 5 though as standard.

Transgender men? Who are these people? Why would they need a smear if they are men?

Mrsjayy · 20/07/2024 12:51

qwertyasdfgzxcv · 20/07/2024 12:50

Didn't it used to be yearly..?

Not routinely no, If you had issues then maybe yearly.

Devilsmommy · 20/07/2024 12:53

Bunnyasmyname · 20/07/2024 12:38

YABU for saying women and people with a cervix.
You mean women.

Exactly what I was going to say 🤨

justasking111 · 20/07/2024 12:53

BrioNotBiro · 20/07/2024 12:44

It's not all women though, is it? They stop at 60 something.

64 here

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Beth216 · 20/07/2024 12:53

At least they're saying women and not just the hideous 'cervix havers'.

Ellerby83 · 20/07/2024 12:53

Are they still not checking for cancerous cells if you are HPV neg? Not sure I will bother anymore

tuttuttutt · 20/07/2024 12:53

In the uk it's every 3 years age 25-49, then goes up to every 5 years 50-64.

Beginningless · 20/07/2024 12:53

YABU to virtue signal with ‘people with a cervix’.

tuttuttutt · 20/07/2024 12:54

I meant England not uk!

Nanny0gg · 20/07/2024 12:55

ToRecordOnlyWater · 20/07/2024 12:48

@ the above replies, transgender men have cervixes too and therefore need to have a smear done. Inclusive language harms no one, and it’s important for everyone to get checked regardless of gender identity and if adding that bit extra on encourages someone to get tested when they mightn’t have otherwise I can’t see it as anything but a good thing.

I was under the impression that if you test positive for HPV, you get more frequent tests which I think is good, I didn’t know the it had changed from 3 to 5 though as standard.

Transgender men are biological women so if they still have a cervix that's all that matters
And only biological women CAN have a cervix

justasking111 · 20/07/2024 12:56

tuttuttutt · 20/07/2024 12:53

In the uk it's every 3 years age 25-49, then goes up to every 5 years 50-64.

Not in Wales

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Nellieinthebarn · 20/07/2024 12:57

I could get arsey about this 'All women and people with a cervix' thing, because it infers that women without a cervix are either included. Which is silly. Or that women who no longer have a cervix (like me) do not count as women. Which is insulting.

I prefer to think that the OP has just worded it clumsily,and no insult was intended.

justasking111 · 20/07/2024 12:57

Beginningless · 20/07/2024 12:53

YABU to virtue signal with ‘people with a cervix’.

Again quoting surgery verbatim 🙄

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LornaDuh · 20/07/2024 12:57

@ the above replies, transgender men have cervixes too and therefore need to have a smear done. Inclusive language harms no one

Inclusive language in the NHS has the potential to harm women and girls if we go along with the nonsense that we can change sex and that bloke with a penis is a woman.

Transgender men (i.e. women) know they've got a cervix so need testing along with other women.

OP was right to quote her GP's surgery's wording.

YOYOK · 20/07/2024 12:57

Evolutionarygoals · 20/07/2024 12:42

At my last smear the nurse told me they don't routinely check for pre cancerous cells anymore. Just the presence of HPV (and I assume then the sample would go on for further testing). Unless anything changes in my sex life I'm not sure there's much point in me going again

I did wonder if I see any point in going if they are not actually checking for pre cancerous cells in HPV negative people. I am due my next one though, so I might have it and then leave it and see how I feel in 5 years.

Mrsjayy · 20/07/2024 12:57

tuttuttutt · 20/07/2024 12:53

In the uk it's every 3 years age 25-49, then goes up to every 5 years 50-64.

In Scotland and Wales it's now every 5.

justasking111 · 20/07/2024 12:58

Beth216 · 20/07/2024 12:53

At least they're saying women and not just the hideous 'cervix havers'.

Are they though?

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Bunnyasmyname · 20/07/2024 12:58

TitusMoan · 20/07/2024 12:51

Transgender men? Who are these people? Why would they need a smear if they are men?

Precisely.

And inclusive language can be very harmful actually, @ToRecordOnlyWater

RafaistheKingofClay · 20/07/2024 12:58

You appear to have inadvertently sounded a klaxon with that title, OP.

justasking111 · 20/07/2024 12:59

Bunnyasmyname · 20/07/2024 12:58

Precisely.

And inclusive language can be very harmful actually, @ToRecordOnlyWater

Because they still have a cervix, womb, ovaries

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JudgeBurrito · 20/07/2024 12:59

@Lalalacrosse @Evolutionarygoals HPV can lay dormant for many years so you can't really know for sure you don't have it, even with no changes in partner. I don't think the messaging around it is good enough, there doesn't seem to be a huge understanding even in the medical teams. I've been told different things by two consultant gynaes.

I'm not happy with the change to 5 yearly, but yes that's the norm in Scotland. They say cases will be very low in those born after 1990, so I have concerns that's prompted the change. As someone born in 1990 who was too old for the vaccine at the time (despite being a virgin when it was rolled out) and who has since tested positive for HPV, I'm livid.

curious79 · 20/07/2024 12:59

Lalalacrosse · 20/07/2024 12:42

There’s no point to having the test if you know you don’t have HPV. That’s all they check for. So there’s no reason to bother.

This is my fear - that now all they test for is HPV when HPV isn’t by any stretch implicated in all cervical cancer

Alconleigh · 20/07/2024 13:00

I had my 3-yearly one in England last year and had HPV. Which meant they did test for abnormal cells, which was clear. But was called back this year for that reason. If this one is clear then I will be back to the regular schedule but the nurse didn't say whether that was now 3 or 5 years. If I still have HPV but no abnormal cells I will be called back again next year. If abnormal cells, will be referred for a colposcopy. Which I've had in the past, leading to loop diathermy treatment but had been clear for years until last year.

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