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AIBU to think this salvageable or is this nearing abuse and manipulation ?

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ItsNotRainingMen · 19/07/2024 19:27

Posting for advice because I am at my breaking point.

In short, my ex-partner left me for his ex-girlfriend about a year ago. We were together for many years and have children. He has not been a great dad, often prioritizing his girlfriend. Thats a story and a half in itself, with him being unreliable, skipping contact, leaving early, spending the time on his phone etc.

About 2 months after he left, I discovered his drug addiction. He was using drugs while still living at home, albeit clearly sporadically but i have started to sense that something wasn't right few months before he left and was on him. In those months before he left, his ex-girlfriend reconnected with him and encouraged him to leave his family. Her "super power" is her drug use and the freedom to do so with grown children out of the house. He moved straight into her home, got engaged within 3 months, and got more and more addicted to drugs.

Despite leaving us, he kept coming back, begging for a chance to fix things, saying he made a mistake. He has moved out of her house twice but went back within a week saying its the drug pull.... Nothing substantial has happened until recently....

Now, before you judge me as stupid, I wouldn't have considered taking him back if he had just left for another woman. His drug addiction changed my perspective because it’s a disease that makes people do things they wouldn't otherwise do. I wanted to help him and save him because I felt he deserved my love and support after so many years.

He left the OW a few weeks ago, saying he is ready to clean up and get his family back. He moved in with his parents. I gave him some downtime, knowing he needed to decompress, but I expected more effort towards our DC and more time spent with us after swearing how much he loves us and wants to fix this. Although I know you can't trust an addict, I gave him the benefit of the doubt. We signed up for couples therapy, but he hasn't done anything about his drug addiction and I suspect he still uses, as he often disappears to his friends' homes. Despite his promises, nothing has really changed. His family seems to be enabling and justifying that small steps are needed, I'm not so sure.

Two days ago, I became sick with COVID. I am really unwell. I informed him, and he responded with, "Oh, that's not good. How have I not got it then?" I ignored him. He then asked, "Is there anything I can do?" I responded that if he needed to ask, then I wouldn't bother. He said he would call and arrange care, to which I replied, "No thanks, I will cope. Thanks for showing love, go to hell." He hasn't bothered to help or contact me since. I might have been totally unreasonable, but those messages triggered me terribly. When someone says they will prove their love, Id expect them to ask how I'm feeling, if our DC are okay, and say they're coming over and asking what we need. His offer of help felt insincere, like a response to a colleague, not someone he's supposed to be winning over. Even if he was unhappy with my response, he should still show up for his kids. I have been so patient with his shit, I just wanted to feel like he actually cares and will rush over and support.

With everything that has happened over the past year and the last few weeks, this felt like the final straw. I texted him saying I'm done because I can no longer be treated like garbage, especially now that he can't blame the other woman. He tried to call, but I asked for communication via text and only about the children as I don't want to speak. I need a few months of no contact to fully get over the situation. Now, he's bombarding me with messages and phone calls, threatening to take me to court, accusing me of withholding contact with the children (I don't; due to his drug use, his family and I put safeguards in place that he isn't allowed to look after them on his own or drive them), and saying I'm separating him from the kids he loves dearly (he often didn't turn up for contact and didn’t inform anyone).He accuses me of withholding information about their routines and school (he gets the same emails but never reads them) and threatens to go for 50/50 care even though he often skipped seeing them for weeks. He also said horrible things, accusing me of breaking up the family. Then he claimed he was just angry, didn’t mean what he said, still loves me, and wants to fix things, and was excited for therapy.

Now I'm very sick, barely functioning. Luckily, the kids are independent enough and I manage to feed them with takeout, but I can barely move, can't work, and am genuinely struggling. I can’t believe he’s bombarding me with this tirade while I’m so sick. My friends are angry, saying this is abuse and harassment, and that I need to drop him and go through court for child arrangement orders (they know the full story). I've tried to support him because I still love him and hoped therapy and rehab could fix things.

So, AIBU? Is this salvageable with therapy and rehab and can be put down to drugs behaviour, or should I cut him off and get a court order sorted because he is a lost cause?

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Holidaaaaay · 19/07/2024 19:31

I actually don't think there was anything wrong with his texts, your reply seemed an over reaction, if you based it on that alone. I suspect your messages came from your anger and hurt surrounding everything else. Honestly I wouldn't be looking to maintain a relationship other than facilitating safe contact for the children.

FlowersInTheShower · 19/07/2024 19:33

This is not salvageable imo and you will save yourself and your kids a lots of upset and heartache if you are able to accept that and move on

OutdatedOutrage · 19/07/2024 19:36

I’m with @Holidaaaaay , about the message I mean. I’m not sure what the issue was and you overreacted imo. The rest is a shit show though.
I hope you feel better soon.

cupcaske123 · 19/07/2024 19:36

OP you're evidently co dependent and are finding any excuse you can to support this man. Keep your children away from a drug user. Stop contact and tell him to go to court to sort out contact. He'll have to do regular drug tests to have contact.

Keep all evidence of harassment - all messages and phone messages. Block him on your phone and social media.

Tell him that if he contacts you or comes to your home, you'll report him for harassment. If he becomes threatening, apply for a non molestation order.

You cannot fix an addict and you can't trust him. He's a liar and a cheat and hasn't stopped disrespecting you.

Read up on co dependency, co dependency no more by Beaty is good but there are other books out there.

Ukholidaysaregreat · 19/07/2024 19:37

Bin him off. He is crap.

Ponoka7 · 19/07/2024 19:37

I agree with the pp. He's a struggling addict, not a mind reader. So if you have a few months break, would you hand contact arrangements over to his family? There's too much resentment on your side and he can't be what you want him to be.

imtheprize · 19/07/2024 19:38

No.

ItsNotRainingMen · 19/07/2024 19:41

@Holidaaaaay @OutdatedOutrage as explained, to me it seemed like a lack of effort from someone who supposedly to be proving his love and support. As Holidaaaay has said, it's the hurt from the whole situation, I expected him to turn up rather than just ask if there is anything he can do, he didn't even ask how I'm feeling and whether DC were sick too. Its been a build up of few weeks where he was still going awol, not spending the time with us saying its too much for him, etc. I haven't asked for commitment and jumping into relationship, but I felt he needs to start making it up to DC for shit parenting and so far he hasn't. So I am questioning if I have overreacted, because in a way i probably did. Even though I have lived in the UK for many years, I am foreign and maybe its my understanding those messages as lack of care.

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DancingLions · 19/07/2024 19:42

You're unreasonable for not just ending it when he left. Honestly I am struggling to feel any sympathy for you.

You're expecting him to behave like a reiable, caring partner when he's anything but that and you know it. So that's on you tbh.

Agree 100% with a pp. You're codependent and this isn't doing either of you any good.

LeavesOnTrees · 19/07/2024 19:42

What a mess. Seriously why are you even asking this question ? That's what you need therapy for.
Anyway, he's a lost cause, let him take you to court for a formal custody arrangement. Yes cut contact with him.

VJBR · 19/07/2024 19:43

I think he has proved time and again that he is not reliable. There may have been some confusion in the last texts but I think it is clear that he is not committed to you and his family. Don't feel guilty about moving on. You have given him too many chances already. Do the best for you and your children and cut him out of your life.

yeesh · 19/07/2024 19:48

You are being ridiculous to keep trying to help this man, he has shown you over & over again that he can not put you or the children first. You should have ended it for good when he left you the first time, putting your children through all of this drama is insane

ItsNotRainingMen · 19/07/2024 19:52

I have been doing therapy for months, albeit I still feel stuck in my feelings for him. I'm also trying to keep his family happy as they help with DC and have been great support. However, since he has been 'back', they seem to be 'supporting' him, which feels more like enabling and justifying his behaviour with he needs time, he will sort it in his time, etc. I have no family here and without them, it would be very difficult. They have been supporting the safeguarding and totally agreed with that.

I feel that I am codependent and maybe hopeful he can get better and be the dad he should be ?

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DetoxedAlcoholic · 19/07/2024 19:52

I am so pleased that you've made arrangements with his family for when he sees the kids. Keep this in place.
He's an addict. Unless he is actively seeking help then he is guided by the addiction. Yes, it's a disease, but once you understand you are in the grip of that disease then it's up to you to do something about it. There is absolutely no point in couples therapy when he is still in active addiction. No point whatsoever. I also would not even contemplate getting back with him now you've split. He is not reliable, trustworthy or safe whilst doing drugs.

ItsNotRainingMen · 19/07/2024 19:56

@DetoxedAlcoholic I'm aware he isn't safe and why I'm insisting on the agreements in place. I'm wondering whether I can put all of his behaviour down to drugs and whether it's fixable with therapy and rehab which he supposedly is going to attend (yet to book), or whether he is just a bad person. He was never a great partner, made me to be horrible over the years as I would snap because he was lying and hiding. Those are typical for drug users though so I'm second guessing myself

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Aquamarine1029 · 19/07/2024 19:56

FGS, stop being your own worst enemy. This man is shit. He will always be shit. Block him. He can take you to court for visitation if he's so inclined.

Maria1979 · 19/07/2024 19:59

Before he has cleaned up his act: being sober and responsible as to where the children are concerned I would not even think about giving him a second chance. You are enabling him for not being firm.

Yousaidwhatagain · 19/07/2024 20:05

You both are toxic. You are choosing a druggie who dumped you and still trying to justify that, getting into arguments, throwing tantrums, then want to do counselling?
That's utterly toxic and I really feel for your poor kids. Your friends have more sense so you should listen to them before you loose them.

Yousaidwhatagain · 19/07/2024 20:06

DancingLions · 19/07/2024 19:42

You're unreasonable for not just ending it when he left. Honestly I am struggling to feel any sympathy for you.

You're expecting him to behave like a reiable, caring partner when he's anything but that and you know it. So that's on you tbh.

Agree 100% with a pp. You're codependent and this isn't doing either of you any good.

Exactly, no sympathy. You are choosing this .

RosesAndHellebores · 19/07/2024 20:07

If you have to ask you know the answer in your heart. You know what you have to do.

ItsNotRainingMen · 19/07/2024 20:18

@Yousaidwhatagain thank you, as much as I agree with parts of this, I'm asking for advice as I'm clearly struggling.

I keep my DC safe, don't cause situations nor 'tantrums' around them, and have put safeguarding into place! He does not have DC on his own, its either with his family or myself present. In no way am I choosing a druggie, he does not live here nor would I allow this unless he was clean of drugs. But I'm questioning whether I should support him to get clean at least for the sake of DC.

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StrawberryPavlova · 19/07/2024 20:18

I wanted to help him and save him because I felt he deserved my love and support after so many years.

This is where you went wrong to be honest. Women are not rehab centres for broken men. You can't save him, he has to do it himself. Nothing about his behaviour suggests he deserves your love and support.

DetoxedAlcoholic · 19/07/2024 20:20

No, I don't think you can put it all down to addiction. I changed and did become selfish but I still looked out for my family, supported them, looked after them and kept them in my heart. He is not doing this. He is reflecting his true self.

DetoxedAlcoholic · 19/07/2024 20:22

Oh and he's showing you that he's not changing as he hasn't looked into addiction help.

ItsNotRainingMen · 19/07/2024 20:24

@DetoxedAlcoholic Those are mainly my thoughts however I often feel talked down by his family that its all drugs, he is soft hearted person and just confused etc. I feel the pressure to try and be amicable. They are lovely people, however don't seem to be able to set any boundaries and expect me to lower mine to in order to support their son. This is where I'm so torn of trying to keep the family together. Thank you for sharing your story.

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