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Neighbour smoking on balcony

239 replies

PorridgeWobbler · 19/07/2024 08:40

We have a relatively new neighbour in the flat immediately next to ours. Now that the weather is improving he seems to spend a lot of time on his balcony smoking cigarettes and weed. Yesterday it was about every 2-3 hours. The smell is horrendous and the prevailing wind flows it straight in through our windows. It’s as if someone is smoking inside our flat. I work from home so notice every time he smokes. Last night he lit up again at 11pm so I had to shut our bedroom windows despite it being very hot. I have young children and their bedrooms also end up stinking of smoke.

I feel I need to say something because it is vile and bad for our health. But I also appreciate that it’s his balcony and he can technically do what he wants on it. What should I say?

AIBU to complain to him?

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MarkWithaC · 19/07/2024 10:46

LighthouseTheme · 19/07/2024 10:35

Still a No from me.
NONE of my neighbours (and I have quite a few) have my number - even and especially those who behave "anti-socially". I don't have or want theirs.
And to reiterate, if people know it causes a problem, and don't stop or moderate what they are doing to be more considerate, then there is no point in asking more than once.
In my unfortunate personal experience.

I wasn't talking about you or trying to persuade you that it's a good idea to give neighbours one's number.

Just answering the question 'I also wonder who these people are, who have their neighbours' numbers....' with a possible scenario in which that might happen.

Really no need for any drama.

Fluffyunicorn1 · 19/07/2024 10:47

Just ask him nicely. He can either be nice about it or just tell you where to go. My next door neighbor smokes cigarettes'. Our houses are joined and his back door is pretty much next to our back door. He used to stand at his door and smoke which then came into my house and made my house smell of it. I politely asked him if he wouldn't mind smoking there if he can see my back door is open as it is smelling of smoke in my house and he apologized, said he didn't realize and he doesn't do it there now. He was very nice about it and understood that as a non smoker with children i didn't want the smell. We get along very well now.

passiveaggressivenonsense · 19/07/2024 10:48

Can you put a fan on the balcony near where the smoke blows in to redirect it ?

AlienShmalien · 19/07/2024 10:48

Put a giant fan on your balcony blowing the air back to him.

x2boys · 19/07/2024 10:49

readingmakesmehappy · 19/07/2024 10:23

If he's a tenant then his lease almost certainly forbids smoking in the flat - which will include the balcony

I'm a housing association tenant i can smoke in my house and garden if I want to.

SummerAndSunPlease · 19/07/2024 10:52

I haven't missed any point, you keep saying he can smoke on his balcony - not true if his lease forbids it.

And that if OP spoke to him about it he's likely to want to do it more, because that's what you'd do and it's "human nature"- again, not necessarily true, most grown up people wouldn't react like this, that's you projecting.

SummerAndSunPlease · 19/07/2024 10:53

Sorry that was aimed at @BlackStrayCat

Cattery · 19/07/2024 10:55

SummerAndSunPlease · 19/07/2024 09:48

Talk to him about it nicely the first time, if there's no effect speak to his landlord (if renting). If he's an owner it's trickier, but not sure why others are saying there's nothing you can do. Weed is actually illegal so I'd call the police every time he does it. They probably won't want to take it seriously but I'd keep bugging them and reminding them it's against the law. At the very least they can have a word with him about it.
And yeah, it might be his balcony but what he's doing is really anti social.
If none of the official channels work I'd play him at his own game - every time he smokes I'd put on music right beside the balcony. I suggest Russian orthodox chants or opera, or whatever you think will annoy him. After all, if he can do what he wants in his home then so can you, but I'm petty like that.

That’ls just tit for tat and how fall outs with neighbours start; then you’ve got to live with bad feeling. It’ll be raining again soon and he’ll bugger off indoors.

Janieforever · 19/07/2024 10:55

SummerAndSunPlease · 19/07/2024 10:52

I haven't missed any point, you keep saying he can smoke on his balcony - not true if his lease forbids it.

And that if OP spoke to him about it he's likely to want to do it more, because that's what you'd do and it's "human nature"- again, not necessarily true, most grown up people wouldn't react like this, that's you projecting.

Highly unlikely his lease forbids smoking on the balcony.

BlackStrayCat · 19/07/2024 10:57

You are correct. I am a secret vindictive smoker.

I deeply apologise to you and will seek the appropriate mental health professionals for my anger management.

Also about curbing my desisre to answer a question asking for my opinion with an opinion.

You have well and truly made me rethink my position on this. I was absolutely wrong.

Have a lovely day.

I will report my opinions and ask for them to be deleted.

readingmakesmehappy · 19/07/2024 10:59

@x2boys if he's a private tenant then he's almost certainly not allowed to. In my renting days there was always an explicit clause forbidding it, and every landlord I've ever known ensures it goes in the contract. It stinks out the house and the landlord has to replace all the carpets and curtains to get rid of the smell.

Clocloxx · 19/07/2024 11:02

Yuck I hate the smell of smoke too! But sorry I don't think you can do much maybe buy him a vape in hopes he will change to vaping

AnnaKorine · 19/07/2024 11:03

I had a neighbour who complained when I smoked on the balcony. I did offer to go downstairs instead as it was only a short distance but when I did that they also complained that I was smoking too near to an air vent and asked if I would walk further down the road. They also complained if walked around at morning/afternoon/evening as the flats were poorly sound insulated and they were shift workers. I moved out after a year because of them, they were a nightmare. But I digress, you can mention it to him politely but if it’s a long distance to outside then I wouldn’t bother as he is unlikely to do that regularly. Surely you can just close the window when he smokes?

KatieCrusoe · 19/07/2024 11:04

I'd mention it to him, and he can stop it or not. If he knows his smoke is billowing into your home and keeps doing it, you'll know he's not bothered and not much you can do about people like that.

Janieforever · 19/07/2024 11:05

readingmakesmehappy · 19/07/2024 10:59

@x2boys if he's a private tenant then he's almost certainly not allowed to. In my renting days there was always an explicit clause forbidding it, and every landlord I've ever known ensures it goes in the contract. It stinks out the house and the landlord has to replace all the carpets and curtains to get rid of the smell.

On the balcony? You sure? Normally it’s in the property itself not the outside space.

Copenhagener · 19/07/2024 11:07

It’s incredibly irritating, but something I’ve been unable to solve.

My downstairs neighbour does the same, it floats up to our apartment and through the windows. She actually seems to find it funny and giggles when I close the windows/my balcony door when the smoke starts up. I’m pregnant right now and the smell makes me literally retch and sometimes even vomit.

Some people are just twats and find it funny to annoy their neighbours.

Cocoda · 19/07/2024 11:09

The point is, the cannabis fumes are wafting into her house and in particular into her children's bedrooms. They have human rights too! i.e not to be forced to breathe in fumes from drugs! 😡

FigTreeInEurope · 19/07/2024 11:12

Could you put a trellis up at the end of your balcony as a barrier?

mrsm43s · 19/07/2024 11:21

If you don't want smells from outdoors to come into your flat through the open window, then you need to shut your window. It's that simple.

You need to decide which is preferable to you - shut windows, or the smell coming in via open windows.

Ginlfixit · 19/07/2024 11:38

FigTreeInEurope · 19/07/2024 11:12

Could you put a trellis up at the end of your balcony as a barrier?

Of course there's little chance of smoke passing through trellis.

SummerAndSunPlease · 19/07/2024 11:41

@Cattery I only suggested it as a last resort, if other avenues don't work.
There will be bad feeling anyway if he refuses to stop.

@BlackStrayCat You have serious issues, I'm stopping replying to you now.

pilo7 · 19/07/2024 11:42

If he's otherwise quiet and considerate, I wouldn't make a fuss. Just not worth it.

Jc2001 · 19/07/2024 11:46

AutumnLeaves1990 · 19/07/2024 08:46

Only thing you can do is make him aware. If he's a decent enough person,he'll be a bit more considerate in the future.

Can't stand the smell of smoke but if he's a smoker how is he supposed to smoke more considerately if he lives in a flat? Your only outdoor space is the balcony.

It's just one of the things you have to deal with if you live in a block of flats unfortunately along with some noise and parking.

mewkins · 19/07/2024 12:27

passiveaggressivenonsense · 19/07/2024 10:48

Can you put a fan on the balcony near where the smoke blows in to redirect it ?

Huge industrial fan so that he'd struggle to even light up😆

PorridgeWobbler · 19/07/2024 12:58

BlackStrayCat · 19/07/2024 09:22

Of course you cannot do anything and I am sure you piss him off too.

Living in London is like that. "Ive got kids" so, who gives a shit?
FGS ONE DAY of hot weather.😂

I would assume he would give a shit, since he also has a child (who doesn’t live with him) and I’m sure he wouldn’t allow him to breath the smoke in.

I’m not sure sure what your “one day of hot weather” comment is about. We have our windows open all day every day so this is a daily problem.

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