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Nursery workers drinking at lunchtime.

534 replies

Brendathedoll · 18/07/2024 13:12

Had a rare day off yesterday so went for a pub lunch with my sister. In there I saw 2 nursery nurses from my child’s daycare having lunch and they each had a glass of wine. There were also 2 empty glasses in the table but possibly from previous customers. I wasn’t happy but my sister says it’s there lunchtime they don’t get paid for and 2 glasses won’t make any difference. They saw me and looked a bit sheepish but it means I can’t report them anon now. I’m scared if I say something they would treat my child differently. Am I being ott thinkinb they shouldn’t drink while caring for kids?

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TheKeatingFive · 19/07/2024 01:25

CelesteCunningham · 18/07/2024 21:02

They were drinking wine and there were empties on the table.

OP doesn't know if they were working afterwards, but they were drinking (unless they were paying for non alcoholic wine, which tastes nothing like actual wine).

The OP doesn't know they were drinking (alcoholic) wine either. She just saw glasses. Personally I'd never pay for non alcoholic wine either, but it is sold so presumably some people do.

Differentstarts · 19/07/2024 06:32

WWYDholidaycovidcrud · 19/07/2024 01:23

Indeed. All NHS staff on Agenda for Change get 30 mins. If we are lucky!

30 minutes is plenty an hours unpaid lunch break would annoy me I don't want to hang around work not being paid. I want to work my paid hrs and leave

CelesteCunningham · 19/07/2024 06:37

TheKeatingFive · 19/07/2024 01:25

The OP doesn't know they were drinking (alcoholic) wine either. She just saw glasses. Personally I'd never pay for non alcoholic wine either, but it is sold so presumably some people do.

OP said they were having wine. Highly unlikely it was non alcoholic, because why would you, especially on the shitty wages paid to childcare staff.

The bit we can't know is whether they were going back to work.

WWYDholidaycovidcrud · 19/07/2024 06:44

Differentstarts · 19/07/2024 06:32

30 minutes is plenty an hours unpaid lunch break would annoy me I don't want to hang around work not being paid. I want to work my paid hrs and leave

It is enough. I wasn’t complaining. Just responding with facts. 😊

TheKeatingFive · 19/07/2024 06:47

CelesteCunningham · 19/07/2024 06:37

OP said they were having wine. Highly unlikely it was non alcoholic, because why would you, especially on the shitty wages paid to childcare staff.

The bit we can't know is whether they were going back to work.

She doesn't know what was in the glass, unless she went over there and tasted it herself. So that's two things she doesn't know.

ShiftySquirrel · 19/07/2024 06:53

It's possible it is low alcohol or non alcoholic.
It's also very possible that they weren't going back to work afterwards, or had even met there on a day off as it was a convenient location.
Two glasses each sounds more leisurely than an hour's lunch break.

I really wouldn't jump to conclusions on this one.

Itsjustmeheretoday · 19/07/2024 06:53

Hmmm, tough one. I think one glass of wone with lunch is fine, it wouldn't affect you and I'd rather the people looking after my children were allowed to enjoy the occasional lunch. Two glasses is borderline, but probably still ok as the were having it with a meal. I would assume their policy probably would say they aren't allowed to drink during working hours though so that then calls into question their general ethics. I've worked in several companies with this policy and when I have I wouldn't do this.

Bluebirdover · 19/07/2024 07:01

@DoreenonTill8 exactly that!!

How do we know there wasn't a double vodka in that coke.....

You know nothing OP, not really!

Goolagoo · 19/07/2024 07:03

Gwenhwyfar · 18/07/2024 21:37

You said you can't be tipsy and in charge of other people's children, which means you think you can be tipsy and in charge of your own children. So I'm asking you what the difference is.

It doesn’t mean that at all , it means that I didn’t specify your own children on the post as that was not what the post was about .

As I’ve already replied above - some people are ok after a glass of wine , to look after their children and some people would not be. As a parent , you usually know if you are and that’s your choice to do that ( not to be drunk that’s not what I mean ) but if you are being paid to look after someone else’s child then it’s not ok .

Bluebirdover · 19/07/2024 07:03

*They were drinking wine and there were empties on the table.

OP doesn't know if they were working afterwards, but they were drinking (unless they were paying for non alcoholic wine, which tastes nothing like actual wine).*

So again we don't know if they were drinking wine?

Itsjustmeheretoday · 19/07/2024 07:07

Gwenhwyfar · 18/07/2024 21:37

You said you can't be tipsy and in charge of other people's children, which means you think you can be tipsy and in charge of your own children. So I'm asking you what the difference is.

The difference is that it's the parents risk to take. Surely that's obvious?

Goolagoo · 19/07/2024 07:42

Bluebirdover · 19/07/2024 07:03

*They were drinking wine and there were empties on the table.

OP doesn't know if they were working afterwards, but they were drinking (unless they were paying for non alcoholic wine, which tastes nothing like actual wine).*

So again we don't know if they were drinking wine?

If they weren’t drinking it’s a non issue , if they were drinking but not going back to work it’s a non issue - they can do what they want , they’re grown women - but if they were then I think the nursery should know this .

I wouldn’t think they would go to a pub near the nursery on their break and drink wine - surely they know that they could be seen . Unless , as its end of year for some they have time out of caring in the afternoon - paper work etc , so aren’t going to be looking after the children and they have been told to go have a relaxing lunch and a glass of wine .

CelesteCunningham · 19/07/2024 07:46

TheKeatingFive · 19/07/2024 06:47

She doesn't know what was in the glass, unless she went over there and tasted it herself. So that's two things she doesn't know.

How often do you see people drinking non alcoholic wine in a pub? You don't, because it's vile. Beer or prosecco, sure, but not wine. They were drinking wine.

They may or may not have been on their second glass (irrelevant IMO - one is too much at work, any number is fine if not), they may or may not have been going back to work, but on the balance of probabilities, they were drinking wine.

Bluebirdover · 19/07/2024 08:00

@CelesteCunningham how would anyone know how often people drink non alcoholic wine, unless we taste it?

Pubs sell non alcoholic beer and wine for a reason.

Are you suggesting they never sell it?

Bluebirdover · 19/07/2024 08:01

@CelesteCunningham has it occurred to you that other people's tastes are different to yours?

TheQueenWhoNeverWas · 19/07/2024 08:05

I don't think most pubs even stock non-alcoholic wine do they? Wetherspoons for example sells 8 AF beers including Guinness, 2 AF ciders and a couple of cocktails but no AF wine, not even Nozecco.

Itsjustmeheretoday · 19/07/2024 08:11

Bluebirdover · 19/07/2024 08:00

@CelesteCunningham how would anyone know how often people drink non alcoholic wine, unless we taste it?

Pubs sell non alcoholic beer and wine for a reason.

Are you suggesting they never sell it?

Honestly non alcohol wine is foul, the chances of two people 'enjoying' this, let alone ordering it in a pub seems very unrealistic!

Bluebirdover · 19/07/2024 08:15

@Itsjustmeheretoday makes you wonder why they sell it then...

TheKeatingFive · 19/07/2024 08:18

CelesteCunningham · 19/07/2024 07:46

How often do you see people drinking non alcoholic wine in a pub? You don't, because it's vile. Beer or prosecco, sure, but not wine. They were drinking wine.

They may or may not have been on their second glass (irrelevant IMO - one is too much at work, any number is fine if not), they may or may not have been going back to work, but on the balance of probabilities, they were drinking wine.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean there is zero chance that they were drinking it. Equally there could have been any number of non alcoholic options in a wine glass. Neither you nor the OP have any way of knowing what they were drinking.

TheQueenWhoNeverWas · 19/07/2024 08:25

Bluebirdover · 19/07/2024 08:15

@Itsjustmeheretoday makes you wonder why they sell it then...

Most pubs don't sell it. Beer, yes almost all pubs sell a few options nowadays and lots of people buy it. Wine, no.

scoobysnaxx · 19/07/2024 08:27

Aquamarine1029 · 18/07/2024 13:25

They should absolutely not be drinking any alcohol when they will be caring for children after. That's fucking outrageous and I would report them immediately.

This.
COMPLETELY inappropriate when looking after multiple young children.
Report!!

Procrastinates · 19/07/2024 08:36

scoobysnaxx · 19/07/2024 08:27

This.
COMPLETELY inappropriate when looking after multiple young children.
Report!!

But they obviously weren't looking after young children.

Honestly the amount of people who've read the title and just assumed these two women were guilty of drinking before heading back to look after a room full of children is mind-blowing!

The OP freely admits she essentially made up a scenario based on nothing more than seeing two people having lunch together in a pub near the nursery they work in.

Dontcallmescarface · 19/07/2024 08:41

CelesteCunningham · 19/07/2024 07:46

How often do you see people drinking non alcoholic wine in a pub? You don't, because it's vile. Beer or prosecco, sure, but not wine. They were drinking wine.

They may or may not have been on their second glass (irrelevant IMO - one is too much at work, any number is fine if not), they may or may not have been going back to work, but on the balance of probabilities, they were drinking wine.

I drink non-alcoholic wine in pubs, I don't find it "vile" at all. This may come as a bit of a shock , what with you assuming everybody has the same tastes as you.

Bluebirdover · 19/07/2024 08:43

@TheQueenWhoNeverWas"most pubs don't sell it", have you done a survey?

So because you've decided most pubs don't sell it, that's your decider that the nursery workers were drinking?

Redhil · 19/07/2024 08:46

Icannoteven · 18/07/2024 13:15

Drinking one glass of wine. Fine. If they were legless, that’s a different story. It’s their unpaid lunch break, as long as they are compos mentis to do their job when they get back to work, where is the problem?

I only have a drink every few months and I can honestly say that a glass of wine, especially with a meal, wouldn’t get me tipsy.

Just because you wouldn't be tipsy doesn't mean someone else wouldn't. I've just had one glass of red wine and felt ill immediately. I'm not saying that's what's happened to these two workers , of course not. My point is drink affects everyone differently so to compare yourself is pointless.