Or is 4am a ridiculous time to get up?

[Cinocino]

Someone tell my baby!!

A month into 4 am wakes 😩
cooing, chatting and up for the day despite about 8 hours of broken sleep max.
5am I think I could do, wakes in the night I’m prepared for but night wakings and a 3:50 start!!! I’m dead.

Shes 7 months and getting 1 or 1.5 hrs of daytime sleep top s!

Again, no advice but completely feel your pain. My now 6 year old has only just started sleeping until 05:30am. After a few years you get used to it but you are not being unreasonable at all - it's so hard! He's also incredibly bright so like others have said, in time this hardship could pay dividends!

Also, getting up with my 3 month old is now a walk in the park due to what I've been though. I'll spare you a thought at 4am tomorrow morning and give you a virtual hug 💗

P.S in my opinion I wouldn't bother even contemplating what might work and what won't. You're not doing a thing wrong, you're smashing it! It's just super hard and I get that. Some sleep late, some sleep early, some don't like sleep at all. It's nothing to do with you so please don't beat yourself up!

Not sure if this has been mentioned but if she's awake at 4am, what time is she napping in the morning? My twins would wake at 5am but be so miserable by mid morning - I used to put them.back to.bed at about 9.30 and they'd sleep till around 1pm Then it didn't matter if they slept in the afternoon as they'd banked a load in the morning. They were then so tired that they more or less slept through from 7 to 5 and start again.

This sounds exactly like my DD. Moving bedtime earlier did eventually help. Perhaps worth trying consistently for a few days to see what happens.

I’ve got one of these. I thought my older kids were poor sleepers but they have NOTHING on this girl. I assume she was solar powered if we ever saw the sun!

Only hope I can give you is that two years in we seen to be started to improve somewhat. Our problem changed at around 16 months from early wakings to getting up looking for milk (and throwing a temper tantrum if she didn’t get it) every 40 minutes and then not wanting to get up for the day when we needed to. We’re now heading towards earlier wake ups again but less frequent night wakings so I’m hopeful the two might balance somewhere useful 😂

I've only read 2 pages. Agree you can drive yourself insane trying all different things and ruin your days trying to get non-nappers to nap longer. My only crazy suggestion is what would happen if you woke her for a dream feed at, say, 3.15 or 3 30? I wonder would she settle back down for another hour or so after? I know you say she's not hungry but something in her body clock ie telling her it's morning.
You may have tried that already. Or you may not want to try, in case it makes things even worse. Otherwise all I can offer is my sympathy and yes, it will eventually pass.... although my non sleeper still often goes to sleep later and wakes earlier than me.

My little one had split nights at this age. She had learned to sit up by herself and was pulling to stand so all the learning new things just made her brain more alert so instead of waking to feed and go back to sleep she would wake feed and play for 4 hours then go back to sleep. It was a very tiring time. Fortunately I only have 1 so I went back to sleep with her.
hopefully it passes soon!

Hi Op, I was in the exact same situation a month ago. It was hell! My dd would only do a 30 min nap in the afternoon too.
My sister kept telling me that better naps = better night's sleep. I decided to lie down with her for her afternoon nap so that I could maybe get her into a second sleep cycle after the initial 30 mins by cuddling up to her when she stirred. It worked a treat and now I can stretch afternoon nap to 2hrs if I'm willing to lie with her the whole time. It also sorted out my sleep deprivation! She now sleeps 'til 6am every morning, thank God.