Or is 4am a ridiculous time to get up?

[Cinocino]

Someone tell my baby!!

A month into 4 am wakes 😩
cooing, chatting and up for the day despite about 8 hours of broken sleep max.
5am I think I could do, wakes in the night I’m prepared for but night wakings and a 3:50 start!!! I’m dead.

Shes 7 months and getting 1 or 1.5 hrs of daytime sleep top s!

But if she's tired, its basically a split night, but instead of doing it at 1/2am she's doing it at 4/5am.

I would just worry that then she's getting overtired that then makes other naps harder

Ha ha.
I’d happily look after a baby for a flask of tea.

Oh god, I remember it well. Googling ‘ can you die from tired’ (I did not, in fact, die).
DD’s sleep is still dogshit.

who said about letting them nap as soon as they want after a nap, because that is true. Used to blow my mind that at 6 months they’d get up, have breakfast and the fuck off back to bed.

Mines 19yo and still gets up at 4am as he's a swimmer (so o do too to take him) - be grateful she'll likely grow out of this phase 😂😂

I'm a sleep consultant and this was my first thought. The fact that you said that your DD falls asleep within 5 minutes means that she is probably crashing out rather than self settling and knowing how to fall asleep herself. I would usually expect it to take around 10-15 mins from lights out to asleep.

Omg, I literally could have written this. My baby 7month old barely naps and recently wakes up at 4 / 4:30 / 5am if I’m lucky. I just thank my lucky stars it’s summer and try not to think about it. It won’t be like this forever. repeat after me it won’t be like this forever 🥴

Oh I remember those days!!

I couldn't start the day at 4am. The odd times that DD wakes at 5.50am is a killer. If you don't want to be waking up at the crack of dawn then I'd recommend getting a sleep consultant!

I’m sure there are people who rave about them but by and large I think sleep consultants are predatory charlatans 🙊

I know several people who used them when my first as young and they just had to go back to the consultant several times times every few weeks or months as things changed again with their little one and pay more £££ for new advice. Personally I think a lot of the sleep consultant’s advice ‘working’ was mostly just the baby changing phases anyway .
I also know someone personally who works as a sleep consultant professionally but in real life her children are horrendous sleepers! It seems like anyone with a baby and an instagram account becomes a sleep consultant these days.

Yep mine was same. Only slept for about 2 hours at a time and wide awake at 4am. Stupidly I said I would do it all - night feeds, changes etc. And do a full days work after dropping him at childminders. He never slept through til about aged 4. Even now, many many years later, I am awake at 4 am

Mine would wake up to breastfeed every 75 min through the night and would be ready to start the day at 4 am as well. I sleep trained with the aid of a sleep therapist when baby was 8 months and within days she started sleeping through 10 hours per night and having a total of 3 hours of nap during the day.

It’s counter intuitive but sleep brings sleep. It’s not ok to be up 1:30 to bedtime at that age. She’s overtired and that’s why she doesn’t sleep properly and wakes earlier. Give her a nap in the afternoon

Mine were both like this, just as I got the eldest to sleep longer I had my youngest......they were trying years to say the least.
I remember one Saturday after working all week being in a town a 45 minute drive away at 8.30am waiting for the shops to open as we'd been up since the crack of a sparrows fart!!
The most galling thing is, now mine are teenagers sleeping until 10am at weekends we can't 'sleep in' past 5.30am anymore, I think our bodies got so used to the early starts sleep just doesn't happen anymore.

Could be overtired? Mine was an early waker and resisted going to sleep. I ended up reading the baby whisperer and had to put quite a strict sleep routine in place. He would only sleep at home in a dark room. Remember this too shall pass

@PeloMom Give her a nap in the afternoon

It’s not my choice!

@CheeseMakesMyHeartMelt The most galling thing is, now mine are teenagers sleeping until 10am at weekends we can't 'sleep in' past 5.30am anymore, I think our bodies got so used to the early starts sleep just doesn't happen anymore.

Stop, this is so sad! 😭

My first did the exact same thing, he was luckily sleeping through the night by 12 months but 4:30/5am awake every morning! He slowly slept in longer and longer and now at 20 months he sleeps until sometime between 6/7am most mornings.

I think it’s probably just part of their development and sleep patterns changing. I’m sure a HV told me there is a big regression around 7 months that most people don’t know about and it’s similar to the 4 month one.

I know it’s tough at the time but honestly it will pass at some point. My second is nearing 4 months so bracing for the regression, but feels easier this time round experiencing that it really doesn’t go on for as long as it feels like.

Hang on in there and get as much sleep and rest when you can! Good luck!

I used to force mine into naps. Took few days and he was napping on his own. Sleep improved too.
id cuddle him and rock him in the dark, whispering stories , songs, what not till he dozed off. Was miserable and hard but paid off

Try putting to bed later, capping last nap

One of mine was like this. My favourite time was between the ages of 2 and 3 when we had a 4.30 wake up time. I was pregnant with dc2 during all of that.

Still an early riser but will be 17 in a few months so takes care of themselves these days!

She naps fine for the first 2, but will not do a later afternoon nap. She’s too nosey in the pram from 4pm and after that toddler is home with us and there’s just too much going on. She used to do it when she was younger but since she has woken up and become an older more interested baby she just can’t go over at that time.

No advice, but feel your pain! This too shall pass! 🤗

My now 41 year old 'baby' did this. I was also told that it was because she was bright and intelligent. Which I thought was just a fob off. Turned out to be true! Same thing happened with my nearly 18 year old GD.

DD2 did 2am wakings - and didn't even sleep through to that point. She would only have 40 minutes nap during the day too.

I tried pretty much everything. And dd1, who I had exactly the same bedtime routine for, slept consistently 12 hours at night, 3 hours in the afternoon from 6 weeks.

The doctor gave me medised, which is a wonderful concoction that isn't licenced for children now, because I'd reached the point of not being able to function. 20 months of no more than 2 hours sleep at a time does that.
She slept the next two days for 12 hours. I stopped giving it to her then (dr said no more than 3 days running) and she still slept 10 hours through, and stayed mostly sleeping through. It just needed something to kick her into sleeping.

She's now 20, home from uni and it would be nice if occasionally she got up in the morning. 🤣

Don’t put a light on
Don’t play with toys or games
Soothe but don’t chat
ie make waking up up as boring as possible
we read this in a baby book years ago and stuck to it - we could change nappy/feed etc in a very dim light (easier than it sounds - honest)
Both slept like rip van winkle from early days - but that was from birth so hope it’s not too late for you and your little one - good luck.