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To think that this isn't fair (school situation)

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whyisswangnotaword · 08/07/2024 13:35

To cut a long story short, my child's school is holding a whole school trip to a beach to mark the end of the year.
It's been highly encouraged for all students to attend, albeit a little too encouraged and has come across to many as very pushy, which has been off putting.
We are not attending, due to my child's horrific travel sickness. I was called and asked if we were attending after already saying we are not - and then was further questioned as to why we are not going. That's not the point though -

We have today been told that any children not attending will be set online work to complete for the day that the school is closed for the trip.
I will be taking my child out for the day, most probably to the cinema due to bad weather .. because although she is aware of the reasons we are not attending and did not want to go due to travel sickness (it would absolutely NOT be enjoyable for anybody) it's still not nice for her to think of all of her friends out having fun whilst she is stuck at home.

Is it silly of me to think that it's unfair that the school are setting an online work day for the children that aren't attending?
I would agree with it totally if she were missing an educational trip, but it's not that. It's a whole school trips for the children and their parents to have a fun day at the beach.

OP posts:
CalmMintReader · 10/07/2024 01:33

whyisswangnotaword · 08/07/2024 15:03

Thank you for all of your comments , I just wanted to clear a few things up in one post without having to directly reply to people individually.
She is in reception, we have been to the doctors and the only thing they said was suitable to provide medication wise was Dramamine, which we tried and it didn't work.

We do go out, short bus trips, she is fine with funnily enough if we sit in the middle of the bus. This trip is 2.5 hours there and 2.5 hrs back.

I don't drive, so I cannot take her there myself unfortunately, although the same sickness would apply no matter what transport.

Yes, parents are required to accompany their child / children, otherwise the children cannot attend the trip. Aside from her sickness affecting her, it's also massively anxiety inducing for myself to be on a coach full of other children and parents whilst having to watch my child the whole way there and back for any signs of sickness as she doesn't always tell me in time beforehand.

And in regards to the cathedral comment , I don't agree with this way of thinking. I think children should enjoy all types of school trips, my daughters school is a catholic school, so I'm sure at some point they will also be going to a cathedral (hopefully closer than the beach!) and I think she and most other children would love it. Children have the best imaginations and can make the most out of many situations! Especially with their friends 🩷

My kids took Kwells at that age - hyoscine which is the most effective medication (I researched a lot as I suffer myself and have emetophobia too).

NavyTurtle · 10/07/2024 01:50

Soubriquet · 08/07/2024 13:54

My two aren’t going on the end of school year trip this year. It’s to a cathedral….what primary school kids do you know want to go to a cathedral?

Im keeping them home instead. Seems a stupid place for a trip. YANBU

So you don't want your children to learn about history, architecture, multi faiths, social interaction? Cathedrals are beautiful moments in history. What a very sad sheltered life you are giving your children. Who knows what information they may pick up that could mould their future career. Feel sorry for your kids with your attitude.

JanglingJack · 10/07/2024 02:36

BeachRide · 08/07/2024 14:47

If she travels in the car with you okay, could you drop her at the beach and collect her later?

Sorry, living in the Midlands, furthest point from any coast whether it be EWNS - the thought of dropping off at the beach and collecting later made me chuckle.

I'm sure OPs child can make a project of going to the cinema. A write up of the film. Transport on the journey. Prices of the food!!

Let's face it, it's very likely a visit to the beach is going to need wellies, a rain mac and a solid hoodie and perhaps waterproof trousers the way this summer is going.

What a treat...

Codlingmoths · 10/07/2024 04:30

Katiesaidthat · 08/07/2024 14:39

There´s pills for that. They also come in the form of chewing gum, sweets and sweets on a stick (whatever it´s called in English). The 19th century was over a long time ago. I was taking these in the 90s. Sorted.

That’s what some people say about pregnancy sickness. (Or taking children on long haul flights for that matter!)

I hope your child grows out of it like I did op, it’s so miserable for everyone. I spent a couple of family weddings standing in front of hand dryers drying my rinsed dress, and the first day of many holidays in the cabin vomiting until I grew out of it.

Codlingmoths · 10/07/2024 04:31

Also cathedrals are awesome, loads of interesting history, and often represent the pinnacle of construction and art skills at the time. No way would I let my child out of a trip to one, I’d probably take them to a whole series of them if they thought that was something to complain about.

MmedeGouge · 10/07/2024 05:15

I suffer from motion sickness.
As a child I dreaded school trips.
What people don’t realise is that the symptoms don’t stop once the journey is over. I continue to feel sick and dizzy for hours after the journey. Medication doesn’t help, it always added to the feeling of dizziness and fatigue, for me.

Severe motion sickness is an awful condition.

As an adult I cope with it by driving myself.

Incidentally you say during a journey you point things out to your daughter. This would make the sickness worse for me. I have to look straight ahead through the windscreen and never look sideways through the windows. Focusing on things within a moving vehicle also makes me feel very ill.

I think you are doing the right thing for your daughter. I hope she gets better in time.

ForGreyKoala · 10/07/2024 05:44

TheSnootiestFox · 09/07/2024 09:38

Yes I did. I don't class that as nasty, just factual. Honestly, people need to stop being offended by people stating facts 🤷‍♀️

My mum didn't drive and it really hampered my opportunities and experiences. It's stating the obvious, not being nasty.

Well I don't drive either and I still am able to do things I want (without relying on others). My DM didn't drive until I was well in my teens and somehow it managed not to blight my childhood - and we lived in a small town.

"Factual" is often just nasty dressed up as something else.

Nottodaythankyou123 · 10/07/2024 06:01

HMW1906 · 08/07/2024 15:15

Have you tried Phenergan for the travel sickness? That usually works really well, I think you can buy it over the counter at a pharmacy.

I found this worked beautifully for travel sickness and morning sickness. Unfortunately it’s also used to treat insomnia and it’s a sedative - would knock me out cold for 12 hours 🤣

sashh · 10/07/2024 06:05

This is the school covering its backside. They can only close the school if every student is involved in something educational.

Send an email saying you have planned an educational day out. Your child will be experiencing an immersive multi cultural experience followed by sampling the cuisine of a culture related to the experience.

Your child will complete the day by giving an oral report of the learning experience and reflections that can be applied to future learning.

Don't tell them it is the cinema, followed by a take away and chat about the film, and which film you will see next.

Sethera · 10/07/2024 06:26

Adding my travel-sickness tip - 'sea bands' - elasticated bands with a pressure point that you wear round your wrist. Obviously can be used in conjunction with other meds but I find they help on their own.

https://www.boots.com/boots-childrens-travel-bands-1-pair-2-12-years-10112484

Birdseyetrifle · 10/07/2024 06:28

I get travel sick. I’m on the lifeboat crew and take Kwells. They work really well for me.

I was really bad as a kid, I’d have been really upset if my mum had stopped me going on trips because of it. I think your anxiety over it is more of an issue tbh. She’ll vomit and then worse there she’ll be fine and probably sleek in the way back.

Birdseyetrifle · 10/07/2024 06:29

Once there not worse 🙄

Birdseyetrifle · 10/07/2024 06:29

Sleep not sleek 🙄

Elasticatedtrousers · 10/07/2024 06:49

Soubriquet · 08/07/2024 13:54

My two aren’t going on the end of school year trip this year. It’s to a cathedral….what primary school kids do you know want to go to a cathedral?

Im keeping them home instead. Seems a stupid place for a trip. YANBU

This is depressing! Parent actively encouraging their children to shut down from learning about the world and building curiosity.

Thefaceofboe · 10/07/2024 06:55

oakleaffy · 08/07/2024 14:14

I was made to suffer travel sickness- so miserable- but on a school trip a friend had children’s travel sickness meds
She gave me one
What a revelation!

No being sick and no nausea

In my opinion it’s actually cruel to let kids suffer motion sickness when there are efficient meds that treat it , taken at the right time.

travel sickness medicines don’t necessarily work for everyone I’ve suffered horrendously ever since I can remember, I’m 30 now and I can’t ever be a passenger and have to drive everywhere or I’m violently sick within 10 minutes. I have tried everything. As a child I remember just being miserable whenever we had a day out, school trip etc cos I’d feel so ill the entire day after the journey.

Natsku · 10/07/2024 06:56

@whyisswangnotaword Travel sickness meds were an absolute gamechanger for my youngest. He was terribly travel sick, vomit everywhere if we went on any journey longer than 15/20 minutes. My mum brought over Boots Travel Calm, which is suitable for 3 and up, and no more vomiting! Even though Kwells are the same medicine I found the taste of them made him feel sick so the Boots version is much better.

Now he's 6 and he won't take the meds any more but I've discovered if I feed him salt and vinegar crisps, just one or two every 10/15 minutes, it keeps the sickness away. So every long car journey we take a massive bag of salt and vinegar crisps!

ChampagneLassie · 10/07/2024 07:07

Soubriquet · 08/07/2024 13:54

My two aren’t going on the end of school year trip this year. It’s to a cathedral….what primary school kids do you know want to go to a cathedral?

Im keeping them home instead. Seems a stupid place for a trip. YANBU

please re think. I’m assuming you’ve never taken them to a cathedral or similar? My parents never took me to places like this but I developed a fascination with history / buildings / art etc through exposure from school. Expanding children’s horizons through experiencing all sorts of things is good for them. It also undermines the school if you suggest to children they won’t enjoy it. Please send them

ChampagneLassie · 10/07/2024 07:11

ForGreyKoala · 10/07/2024 05:44

Well I don't drive either and I still am able to do things I want (without relying on others). My DM didn't drive until I was well in my teens and somehow it managed not to blight my childhood - and we lived in a small town.

"Factual" is often just nasty dressed up as something else.

Just because one person feels blighted their mum didn’t drive doesn’t mean everyone would. Lots of people in urban places don’t drive / have cars.

ilostmyhearttoastarshiptrouper · 10/07/2024 07:13

OP I'm sorry but either you're not clear on the facts or there's some exaggeration going on here. I can believe that any school would plan a day out that required 5 hours of travel. A school day is only 6 hours long! I'm also struggling to believe that every parent was required to attend with their child. You'd have a DBS issue, not least the coach size would be doubled! Have parents been asked to pay for their own seat or just their child's? I'm struggling to believe that you're the only parent who can't go in those circumstances. Are the whole school out on the trip or just reception? Have all parents in all years been asked to attend? Also, you mention a residential trip being planned for reception age children? 4 and 5 year olds? I'm also astounded by that. I've never known a school do residential for children that young.

Scarletttulips · 10/07/2024 07:21

Send an email saying you have planned an educational day out. Your child will be experiencing an immersive multi cultural experience followed by sampling the cuisine of a culture related to the experience

Dont do this! It’ll be read out in the staff room.

They won’t care if the works done or not. They won’t mention it again.

Have a great day out, no 5 year old is ‘missing’ out on this type of trip.

Out local school does a day at the breach - it’s close enough to walk, and parent walk the children down.

it’s like bearding cats all day and the trips to the toilet every 5 minuets and then an ice cream on the way back.

Staff find it a long long day - the kids have fun - but we are glad when it’s over - the last thing I’d worry about is some kid not there not doing set work.

Tablesalt111 · 10/07/2024 07:22

neverbeenskiing · 09/07/2024 19:00

Yes, parents are required to accompany their child / children, otherwise the children cannot attend the trip.

Hang on, this makes no sense whatsoever.

The school have hired enough coaches to accommodate all children across all year groups and a parent for each child?? So even for a smallish primary school you're looking at 500 people, plus staff!!

Parents being expected to accompany their kids on a trip that starts at 7.30am and involves a 5 hour round trip is a HUGE ask. What about working parents who need their AL to cover holidays? What about single parents with younger kids at home, what about parents with their own health issues? Saying that if their child can't go on the trip they can't come to school is also a pretty bold move as it means parents have to take time off work regardless.

Honestly, this sounds like a nightmare for parents and staff. I work in a mainstream primary school and we have a number of children who would absolutely not cope with an all day excursion starting at 7.30am and involving 5 hours on a coach due to SEN, physical health issues or behaviour challenges. The Reception children will be completely exhausted, half of ours fell asleep on the coach on the way back from a 2 hour theatre trip!

I am amazed that the school haven't been totally inundated with complaints from parents about this.

I was surprised by this too. I know they ask for some parents to attend as volunteers but not sure how on earth they would manage every child and their parent but maybe that's how it is now 🤷‍♀️

Busybeemumm · 10/07/2024 07:23

I took my DC on a school coach trip around 2 hours each way. Lots of kids were sick but kids/ parents had change of clothes and sick bags- it just wasn't a big deal.
Your DC won't be the only one being sick. Everyone had so much fun and it was a memorable trip. Is this more about you not wanting to go OP rather than the sickness? It's just one day but will be sad that the kids will be talking it about it for days to come and your DC will feel left out.

Tablesalt111 · 10/07/2024 07:23

Scarletttulips · 10/07/2024 07:21

Send an email saying you have planned an educational day out. Your child will be experiencing an immersive multi cultural experience followed by sampling the cuisine of a culture related to the experience

Dont do this! It’ll be read out in the staff room.

They won’t care if the works done or not. They won’t mention it again.

Have a great day out, no 5 year old is ‘missing’ out on this type of trip.

Out local school does a day at the breach - it’s close enough to walk, and parent walk the children down.

it’s like bearding cats all day and the trips to the toilet every 5 minuets and then an ice cream on the way back.

Staff find it a long long day - the kids have fun - but we are glad when it’s over - the last thing I’d worry about is some kid not there not doing set work.

🤣🤣🤣 I doubt it will be read out in the staff room... I doubt the email will get read at all!

Snoopsnoggysnog · 10/07/2024 07:34

Soubriquet · 08/07/2024 13:54

My two aren’t going on the end of school year trip this year. It’s to a cathedral….what primary school kids do you know want to go to a cathedral?

Im keeping them home instead. Seems a stupid place for a trip. YANBU

This is probably the most ignorant thing I’ve ever read on MN.

Stopmotion24 · 10/07/2024 07:34

I feel sorry for your daughter. The school probably felt they ought to send work as part of their duty to make sure your child has something to do for the day and doesn’t miss out as in your situation not all parents would be able to take their child out for the day and, for all they know, you may be complaining if they hadn’t! I really don’t see the issue, I think it is lovely that they are taking kids to the beach and making alternative provision for those missing out.

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