To actually feel sorry for the woman driving the car in the Wimbledon car accident

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I’m sure I’ll be flamed here . I totally sympathise with the bereaved parents- I can’t stress that enough. I can understand them wanting justice . As we know the driver of the car suffered an epileptic seizure at the wheel - she had no history of epilepsy. I don’t see what she could have done differently. She has to live with what she did although it wasn’t her fault. AIBU to feel quite sorry for her ?

Absolute rubbish.

You can start having epileptic seizures at any point in life

Also you do realise if she was in the middle of a seizure the intention to commit the crime would not be present therefore what would she be punished for?!?

This kind of answer really frustrates me, or perhaps that's a reflection of my inhabiting a world that sounds similar to the person in question.

I have an ADHD diagnosis. I got it by going to two doctors (which I paid for myself, bypassing the NHS) and explaining my symptoms. I got a diagnosis. Now, I was accurate in describing my symptoms and how they affect my life, but I'm not sure they'd have realised if I actually just reeled off "Top 10 adhd symptoms" off Google. It's not uncommon for people with money to spare to, for example, seek advantage for their children by finding a doctor to confirm that Bobby has slow processing and needs extra time in exams. There are plenty of situations in diagnostic medicine where there is a huge amount of input from patients because there's no evidence as such, there's nothing to see the way there would be if a bone was broken. That doesn't mean that the medical staff, police or whoever else are lying or covering for the person in question - it just means that reasonable doubt has been created.

I don't see any other option. They should not be entitled to see, and probably spread, someone's medical details.

That is the percentage where other causes are ruled out. Most people are genuinely surprised how high it is.
Epilepsy is caused by a disturbance in electrical signals in the brain.

There are tests that can indicate whether a seizure was epileptic (caused by disturbance in electrical signals) or caused by something else. Blood tests & EEG among others.

Exactly. Oh so easy to say "ah well it's just one of those sad things!" when its someone else and not your child isnt it?

Bloody hell, talk about a lack of empathy. Also, according to the rules wont she be able to drive again in a year if she has no further fits?

@BobbyBiscuits is a “strong enough punishment” not having to live the rest of your life knowing you unwillingly killed 2 children? I think most would struggle with that.

The burden of proof in any criminal case is beyond reasonable doubt.

That's a very high burden of proof. Is there reasonable doubt this was deliberate?! Absolutely!

Likewise my uncle had his first in his 40s.
Was wondering how long it would take before someone mentioned her personal financial situation which, of course, is completely irrelevant .

In this case a terrible accident happened but it was no one’s fault.
A review is pointless unless we ban driving all together, just in case

Medical professionals, scans and blood tests can't prove she didn't have a seizure during the accident if she insists she did. She was not wearing EEG in the car.
90% on this thread have no actual idea how it works in this case.

If she had been driving a Nissan micra, the chances of her killing two little girls would have been much, much lower. (SUVs are actually 8x more likely to kill children than smaller cars.) We really need a movement against urban SUVs - they should be taxed and licensed out of existence in cities. They kill children and they are killing the planet - and for what? So people can drive ridiculous status symbols around.

If someone told me that my child had been killed by someone when they were in the throes of a seizure and were not in control of their actions, I most certainly wouldn’t take that on trust, and would want the evidence to have been robustly examined on my behalf.

I bet the kids parents were driving similar. Wimbledon and private school after all.

Who is to say she didn't have more than one at the time/soon after? Earlier in the year I had three at home within an hour and then a further two in hospital. This may have been the case with her and that might be why she has now been diagnosed with epilepsy.

So you'd rather believe that a woman with no history of criminal offences who is an upstanding member of society just decided to drive at your kid for shits and giggles and risk killing themselves too?

Such a weird attitude.

This was my first thought when I heard the decision. Very convenient

Are you lot seriously considering having money made her bribe police and she somehow bought them off?

There are truly horrible people and I don't mean the driver.

So you'd rather believe that a woman with no history of criminal offences who is an upstanding member of society just decided to drive at your kid for shits and giggles and risk killing themselves

How on earth do you know she is an "upstanding member of society" what a load of garbage.

You know upstanding member of society just is a fancy way of saying a good person?

She had no criminal convictions. You're considered of good character if that's the case.

You'd probably be considered one too...unless you think you're not?

Exactly.
There were 4 possible reasons

1. deliberate attack NO
2. negligence/dangerous driving NO
3. accident due to medical event
4. mechanical failure NO

A family member of mine had a seizure out of the blue aged mid 30s, not while driving thankfully, but if they had been, a similar situation is likely

This just isn't true.
My partner had his first seizure, out of the blue, at 50.
A lot of things can cause this...it was found he had intercranial hypertension which put pressure on his brain and eyes. He had no previous symptoms.

Why just cities. Is everyone outside cities irrelevant.

If we re banning large cars to save lives we’ll need to ban all vans, trucks, articulated lorries. Farm machinery from using the roads. Construction machinery from using the roads etc etc. Ambulances
Anyone driving these large vehicles can suddenly have a siezure and kill others

Yes, further to my point above, when the medics arrived, family member had another seizure and potentially a 3rd one in hospital, I can't remember.
So that would be evidence

No, obviously not. Such a weird comment. Haven’t you heard of dangerous driving, driving without due care and attention, speeding…?

Why are you so convinced about #2?

@maudelovesharold well it would be tough cause you'd be extremely unlikely to be allowed to view medical evidence of a third party regardless of the circumstances