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To expect pet friendly to mean a dog can go everywhere

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Fluffyelephant · 06/07/2024 11:34

We arrived yesterday in a holiday house for a family trip that was booked because the place described itself as pet friendly. On arrival though we were presented with very intense written rules regarding dogs - they were in bold and used terms like ‘under absolutely no circumstances with no exception can your dog…’

If we had been told these rules in advance we would never have paid to stay here as they absolutely won’t work for our dog and we know that. The main rule causing issue is that he’s only actually allowed in the living room and part of the hall so 75% of the house is off limits including the stairs. He’s well behaved and good natured and is a breed that doesn’t shed hair. But he’s a clingy breed and follows us around and always sleeps on the floor by our bed otherwise he gets very distressed.

The owners know a dog was coming because we told them and we paid an extra £50. But none of these rules were mentioned. If he caused damage then of course I would pay (as I would if it was caused by a child or adult) but this seems to be rules to preemptively prevent any damage from occurring in the first place.

Last night in an attempt to follow the rules I tried sleeping on the two seat sofa in the living room next to dog but this was horrendous so we just came upstairs. My partner says it’s impossible to relax so we’ll just have to drive gone today!

I feel like places say ‘pet friendly’ to get your money when they actually aren’t at all! AIBU?

OP posts:
Cloudtime · 08/07/2024 20:06

LibertyDuck · 06/07/2024 11:45

It's not their fault you have a neurotic dog. Most dogs could be shut in one room without issues. Please don't let the dog upstairs as that's gross for future guests.

You really don’t know anything about dogs do you? 🤣

OhmygodDont · 08/07/2024 20:09

I mean we had dogs. They knew not to go on sofas and didn’t need to come up stairs unless for a bath. No dog ever needed to sleep on or at the bottom of my bed and we had five dogs raised from puppies.

Flinstones · 08/07/2024 20:17

FateReset · 08/07/2024 19:38

if you arrived at a holiday home that said children welcome but then on arrival they said actually your children aren’t allowed in any room unsupervised, they can’t go in the living room or the master bedroom at all, would that be acceptable

Children are included on the booking form, full names and details like other human guests, they're not add ons like bringing a dog.

Children welcome usually means the place is set up for children, with additional bedroom(s) or sofa beds and no hazards like unfenced flat roof or balcony with low railings. Most holiday homes welcome children or they wouldn't make much income!

Saying children can only use certain rooms is discrimination, as they're paying guests and you can't say some guests can use the lounge and some can't. Entering the master bedroom might be necessary eg if they have a bad dream or like sleeping in parents' bed for security. Beds are designed for humans. Sheets and covers will be washed between guests to get rid of the sweat, dead skin cells, hair, any bacteria. Sure kids (and adults) might wet the bed or spill coffee, but most beds have waterproof mattress covers. Now imagine that bed being covered in dog hair, that's hard to get off in a washing machine and hairs get stuck in the cotton weave. Dog hair sticking to the outer bedcover too (that doesn't normally get washed between guests) hair on the headboard, floors, rugs.

And penetrating dog smell! That really seeps into fabrics, floors, pillows too. Dogs don't have a daily shower and fresh pyjamas like humans, is it any surprise they're not welcome in bedrooms, beds, on furniture or in more than one room?

That's extremely well put, exactly this!

Flinstones · 08/07/2024 20:18

OhmygodDont · 08/07/2024 20:09

I mean we had dogs. They knew not to go on sofas and didn’t need to come up stairs unless for a bath. No dog ever needed to sleep on or at the bottom of my bed and we had five dogs raised from puppies.

You are a very rare but very good dog owner.

Flinstones · 08/07/2024 20:19

CLOUDTIME you really don't understand what it is to be a human & what it means to be a dog do you.

CaptainOliviaBenson · 08/07/2024 20:34

Nhswoe · 08/07/2024 12:01

Surely this depends on what rules they have though in everyday life?

Our dogs would struggle not to go upstairs because they have had years of their lives being allowed upstairs. They are allowed to go upstairs and it would be a hard habit to break over a few days. By the time they got it, we would be in the car on our way home back to their upstairs life!

Our dogs aren't allowed in the kitchen at home, and equally find it tricky when we stay somewhere where they are expected to hang out there because they are trained to not go there, just like they are trained to go upstairs

Longterm it's no problem but for the sake of a few days, and especially tricky if you can't shut it off so have to monitor all the time

Yes, this. When we stay overnight with DSD and our dog sleeps in the guestroom with us (in his own bed), he gets confused when we usher him upstairs at bedtime. He tries to go into the bathroom as he thinks he's getting a bath. That's the only reason he's allowed upstairs at home. It took at least 3/4 overnight stays for him to get used to being allowed to sleep upstairs in DSD's house.

LilBowWow · 08/07/2024 20:35

Flinstones · 08/07/2024 20:18

You are a very rare but very good dog owner.

Says who? Mad that you think you get final say in what makes a good dog or owner.

DietCokeandHulaHoops · 08/07/2024 20:36

I find the cognitive dissonance on this fascinating.

“urgh dog on bed - disgusting”

Yet every time you stay in a bed that isn’t your own there will be traces of all types of human effluence - including vomit, blood, dementia and likely faeces.

”but dog hair”

But pubic hair.

“But fleas”

but all types of communicable diseases.

I mean if you think about it too deeply I don’t think you’d ever sleep in any bed other than your own.

T1Dmama · 08/07/2024 20:37

Fluffyelephant · 06/07/2024 15:43

I’m here. I’m real. We’ve just been out for the day and now trying to work out what to do this evening. Essentially whether to give up and set off back home or stay and break the rules which genuinely would be really out of character for us.

Partner says he just can’t enjoy this as he feels on edge and like we’re doing something wrong (even when we’re downstairs and following the rules!) as it doesn’t feel like our dog is really welcome.

I can’t really train my dog to not go upstairs because we live in a large flat.. it’s not a ‘normal’ house layout. I’m not totally sure how we’re meant to follow these rules to be perfectly honest as it says the dog should never be left unattended in any room… but then he has to stay downstairs for 8+ hours while we sleep upstairs..

Ah well. They’ve given you two contradictory rules… choose which one you follow!!
Ignore the rules… in-fact you never read the letter!
Just enjoy and don’t feel guilty… they’re the ones who didn’t disclose the rules and mislead you!

Baital · 08/07/2024 22:52

There is nothing intrinsically 'better' about not allowing your dog upstairs. Or the opposite.

Dogs need boundaries and training, but as an.owner you decide which you prefer, and what boundaries you put in place. Then you train your dog and maintain that boundary consistently.

But upstairs/downstairs is just a matter of personal preference

Thisbastardcomputer · 08/07/2024 22:57

We had this at a cottage in north Norfolk, I'd paid the fee for 3 dogs, they are well behaved and don't moult. I ignored the rules and the owner was no wiser.

Nhswoe · 09/07/2024 07:59

Baital · 08/07/2024 22:52

There is nothing intrinsically 'better' about not allowing your dog upstairs. Or the opposite.

Dogs need boundaries and training, but as an.owner you decide which you prefer, and what boundaries you put in place. Then you train your dog and maintain that boundary consistently.

But upstairs/downstairs is just a matter of personal preference

Exactly. My dogs sleep upstairs. Not because they are horrendously spoiled but because it suits the layout of our house and is more practical for us

These dogs aren't allowed in the kitchen, but mu previous dog slept in the kitchen

Dogs just have different training for different lives and routines

I completely agree that any rules need to be transparent before booking

SouthernBelle2 · 09/07/2024 14:12

I would ignore the rules on the basis that you booked and paid for a pet to have use of the house, and write a review that highlights the issue. Dog owners will seek out properties where they can let their pets enjoy holidays too and if something is advertised (and charged) as pet friendly then that's what it should be.
I do understand not everyone wants to allow pets and that's fine but they shouldn't welcome them then pull the rug afterwards.

Baital · 09/07/2024 14:53

Exactly.

I have no problems with pets being banned, or allowed in tightly restricted areas.

But don't say 'pet friendly' to get the custom and take the money when you don't actually want pets.

It's about honesty.

They are plenty of people - as shown on this thread - who want pet-free holiday accommodation. Go with that market.

Pinkrinse · 09/07/2024 19:35

MrMotivatorsLeotard · 06/07/2024 11:47

My experience of holiday cottages that are marketed as dog friendly is that the rules state dogs must never be left in the house alone, they’re not allowed on any of the furniture or anywhere upstairs.

So I wouldn’t take ‘pet friendly’ to mean free to roam the whole house, but they should state at the time of booking what any restrictions are. Is it definitely not stated somewhere on their website or within their T&Cs?

This is normal, we’ve been taking our dogs on holiday for over 30 years, and this standard. But to be fair stuff happens. My greyhound who never went on the furniture at home snuck on the settee in one rental quite often.🤷🏼‍♀️

J97King · 11/07/2024 16:41

I have had massively furry dogs for 25 years and have stayed in a lot of properties and restrictions like this are fairly common. One property in Ireland said dog was only allowed in the kitchen!

We just ignored that - how unreasonable - and nothing happened. I always clean up thoroughly before we leave and I choose properties without carpet where possible.

Fluffyelephant · 13/07/2024 09:22

So after the interest and debate sparked by this post I couldn’t not share this update 😂😱Haven’t actually told this to anyone yet as I didn’t want to ruin the rest of the family’s holiday!

So we stayed at the holiday cottage for the week doing what we planned, no issues, nothing to report…

Today we went to stay at the second holiday cottage for our two week stay with family. I was more involved with selecting this cottage and it is definitely more ‘dog friendly’! No rules here.

BUT here’s the bit that will horrify so many of you on this thread… it’s a beautiful place but within 60 seconds of arriving I found a small dog poo next to the sofa. I’m pretty horrified myself tbh. At first I panicked and thought it could have been my dog (even though he has NEVER done that since he was a tiny puppy!) but he hadn’t gone to that area and it was old… place seems to have been recently cleaned so I’m not sure how it’s been missed.

Haven’t told anyone as my mum would be horrified and may find it difficult to believe it wasn’t my dog! It would literally ruin the whole week for her. So I’ll keep this one to myself.. but it has been an eye opener about ‘dog friendly’ places!

OP posts:
Flinstones · 13/07/2024 09:39

Fluffyelephant · 13/07/2024 09:22

So after the interest and debate sparked by this post I couldn’t not share this update 😂😱Haven’t actually told this to anyone yet as I didn’t want to ruin the rest of the family’s holiday!

So we stayed at the holiday cottage for the week doing what we planned, no issues, nothing to report…

Today we went to stay at the second holiday cottage for our two week stay with family. I was more involved with selecting this cottage and it is definitely more ‘dog friendly’! No rules here.

BUT here’s the bit that will horrify so many of you on this thread… it’s a beautiful place but within 60 seconds of arriving I found a small dog poo next to the sofa. I’m pretty horrified myself tbh. At first I panicked and thought it could have been my dog (even though he has NEVER done that since he was a tiny puppy!) but he hadn’t gone to that area and it was old… place seems to have been recently cleaned so I’m not sure how it’s been missed.

Haven’t told anyone as my mum would be horrified and may find it difficult to believe it wasn’t my dog! It would literally ruin the whole week for her. So I’ll keep this one to myself.. but it has been an eye opener about ‘dog friendly’ places!

I'll go first! This is why dogs should be kept outside & left at home!! Disgusting 🤮

J97King · 13/07/2024 12:56

Fluffyelephant · 13/07/2024 09:22

So after the interest and debate sparked by this post I couldn’t not share this update 😂😱Haven’t actually told this to anyone yet as I didn’t want to ruin the rest of the family’s holiday!

So we stayed at the holiday cottage for the week doing what we planned, no issues, nothing to report…

Today we went to stay at the second holiday cottage for our two week stay with family. I was more involved with selecting this cottage and it is definitely more ‘dog friendly’! No rules here.

BUT here’s the bit that will horrify so many of you on this thread… it’s a beautiful place but within 60 seconds of arriving I found a small dog poo next to the sofa. I’m pretty horrified myself tbh. At first I panicked and thought it could have been my dog (even though he has NEVER done that since he was a tiny puppy!) but he hadn’t gone to that area and it was old… place seems to have been recently cleaned so I’m not sure how it’s been missed.

Haven’t told anyone as my mum would be horrified and may find it difficult to believe it wasn’t my dog! It would literally ruin the whole week for her. So I’ll keep this one to myself.. but it has been an eye opener about ‘dog friendly’ places!

Yikes! I'm betting the cleaners brought their dog with them and didn't realise what happened.

Fleurdalys · 13/07/2024 17:28

ExecutionersBong · 06/07/2024 14:28

Dirty dogs. Why would pet friendly mean its ok for a dog to run around beds and other furniture etc. Discusting

Oh dear
Custing 😂

CormorantStrikesBack · 13/07/2024 17:34

Blimey, I bet the cleaners just missed it….though how nobody smelt it I have no idea. I’ve stayed in holiday cottages before where stuff has been missed, ie it’s obvious that they’ve hoovered the main “square” of the room but not the gap between the wall and the sofa because I’ve found a Percy pig or similar…but not a stinky poo!

T1Dmama · 13/07/2024 23:01

Yeah we once stayed in a ‘dog friendly’ place and it was disgusting. Had to complain 3 times, no excuse really….
firstly the bathroom stunk of urine and we had to get a cleaner up to bleach it… it was vile… then the sofas and carpet were dirty, so someone came up and hoovered (supposedly for a second time!)… and then they said that they’d supply us with throws for the sofas to cover the stains!… it really was a filthy place. We’ve stopped taking dogs away with us because I can’t cope with the filth of dog friendly places

bridgetreilly · 13/07/2024 23:13

I’m afraid I just ignore those rules. I know my dog, and frankly, he is less messy than I am. He doesn’t moult, drool, or chew furniture. If he gets muddy, he gets cleaned before he comes in. He is impeccably house trained (not by me). So if he wants to sleep on the bed with me in a holiday cottage where I’ve paid a fee for him, he can.

Flowerypaintings · 14/07/2024 09:12

In 10 years time when all the lockdown dogs are gone I’m sure things will revert back to not being so ‘dog friendly’

DelythBeautyQueen · 14/07/2024 17:30

Flowerypaintings · 14/07/2024 09:12

In 10 years time when all the lockdown dogs are gone I’m sure things will revert back to not being so ‘dog friendly’

Good God, I hope so. Fucking dogs everywhere. People can't even go out for a meal without taking their stinking pets with them.

One restaurant we went to recently even had a menu for dogs. We didn't stay. It's one thing having them farting under the tables, quite another to have to witness them slobbering in dog bowls... 🤢🤢🤮