Parking in disabled spaces when disabled person sitting in car

[Mokel]

If the blue badge holder isn’t going to leave the car, the car shouldn’t be parked in a disabled bay.

The purpose behind disabled bays is for disabled people don’t have to walk far to entrances to shops, doctors etc. If not leaving the car, there’s no need to park up there.

If a non disabled person is going to leave the car leaving the disabled person in the car, they should be parking in a normal parking space.

They’re preventing someone else from using the space, by using it correctly.

They’re not less entitled to use it than me just because I drive in and they’re the passenger

TigerRag Why on earth wouldn't it be?

The reason the disabled person needs to leave the car when a BB is in use, is to prevent situations of old where the able bodied where abusing (usually) elderly granny, by making her come out with them shopping and sit in the car with her badge, just so they could park more easily, preventing those who actually needed the space from parking.

Why on earth should a disabled drivers family, un- related passengers, employee, or for that matter dog, have to all leave the car every time the disabled driver leaves to do something?

Able bodied peoples families don't have to leave the drivers vehicle when and able bodied driver gets out, why should our families/ passengers/ employees/ dog, face discrimination because we're disabled?

It achieves nothing and would be discriminatory which is why it isn't a rule.
I don't understand why you would want it to be

Have you got ANY idea how hard life is with a disability? Stop nitpicking.

Disabled person here... absolutely nothing to do with thinking BB is a perk. I just think it's appalling that people break the rules in a way that inconvenience other disabled people. Nice sweeping judgement though. The rules are clear, the disabled person must be leaving the car other wise their able bodied carer MUST park in a normal space.

Without going right up to the car and scrutinising the photo, how do you know who was disabled and if the other person was not 🤔

You don't have to wear a bloody placard stating what your disability is, you know.

Used to infuriate me when people literally ran from empty cars where they'd shoved a BB up in.

As long as they have displayed a BB, which belongs to them, it is irrelevant whether they walked, ran, or crawled from the car. What is there not to understand about that?

Even if she can drive, life is hard enough for disabled people and their families without playing musical spaces in a car park.

They are using the same and badge according to the rules. They don't need to explain to anyone.

The issue here isn't with other people who have a BB who you deem less worthy of the spaces, it's with the way that society is designed with disabled people as an after thought.

Those people who are 'running' to and from their cars have been assessed as needing a BB, not having a limp does not disqualify you from applying for a BB.

I just don't understand the scrutiny that BB holders are appearing to attract. If people feel that a BB is being incorrectly used, or not displayed in a supermarket carpark etc, then inform the customer service in store, if they feel that they must. No one has the right to challenge people, or ask them questions in the street. Unbelievable!

The source would be the rules that have been screenshotted over and over in this thread.

It is fair to prevent another disabled person from using that space. It's already being used by a disabled person who needs to be able to get in and out of the car, which he has done.

What his passengers are doing is irrelevant. The badge is HIS and HE is abiding by the rules.

Used to infuriate me when people literally ran from empty cars where they'd shoved a BB up in

You get angry at people parking in a bb space, putting their bb out and leaving their cars?!

Even if they did go right up to the car, the badge would be displayed photo down so they wouldn’t see anything unless they got the disabled person to show them- which they have no right to do.

OK what I should have said... These at people who openly boast of using their sisters /friends /husbands blue badge as easier...

Agreed society is massively still not designed with people who has disabilities in mind.

I do NOT deem them 'less worthy'.... (what I should have added ... These are people who openly boast of using their sisters /friends /husbands blue badge as 'it's easier to park :..)

I'm well aware that many disabilities are hidden and it is not purely physical disabilities but also mental health issues and LD and other social /communication issues...

That's not exactly what it says.

1. You should not use the badge to allow non-disabled people to take advantage of the benefits while you sit in the car.

That could refer to you coming along simply to allow them to do their shopping more easily as opposed to doing yours which would not be them taking advantage in my view.

Perhaps more importantly we should consider these questions:

If the disabled person decides at the last minute they are not up to coming into the shop today should the car be moved?

if the disabled person returns to the car leaving others to finish doing the shopping should the driver return too in order to move the car further way with the disabled person in it?

You might want to write to them for clarification if you plan to challenge many disabled people.

@IamtheDevilsAvocado how many people do you know who openly boast of using someone else's BB?

Most people that I know with BB struggled for a long time before being convinced that they would be entitled for a BB. I would be very surprised to hear them say that they have been lending their BB to friends and family or to hear that their family have asked.

Are these people in your actual life that you hear openly boasting?

How do you know them and why did so many people feel like you would react positively to hearing this boast?

I always wonder about people who would actively tell people that they are using "Uncle Fred's" , or "Granny Philomena's" BB. I suppose they are the same type of people who would tell people in the pub, that they are fiddling the PIP.

An elderly man once came up to my car as I was getting out of it (before I used a wheelchair), and demanded that he check the photo on my displayed blue badge, as I was "too young" to be disabled. He did NOT like it when I asked to see his parking police identification first.

Unfortunately in this case, he shoved me out of the way, grabbed my badge from the dashboard, looked at the photo, saw it was me and threw my badge on the floor.

I reported him, but nothing happened. It's stopped me from going out.

Really good point. ‘You should not use the badge to allow non-disabled people to take advantage of the benefits while you sit in the car’ is not the same as ‘You should not sit in the car when the non-disabled person is out of the car.’

That's really horrible. I'm sorry that happened to you.

I wish more people knew how long these incidents actually play on a person's mind and thought twice before they charge in to action.

What a distressing thing to have happened@WalkingonWheels . To have thrown your pass on the floor, after all that, was outrageous.

That's only one of many similar incidents. No one needs to, or should, challenge a disabled person who is displaying a blue badge. It has had a huge impact on my confidence and independence. Just leave us alone.

I totally agree about going up to people, and asking them "to prove that they have a disability", is a complete no no. Maybe they need to do a few adverts on the tv about the fact that some disabled people can be young, old, fat, thin, short, tall, black, white... I think that you get the jist. I just think that there needs to be more awareness, and education, especially now that invisible disabilities are included in BB awards as well.

ODFG - many Blue Badge holders can't even drive, their carer is doing the driving. Thankfully not all Blue Badge holders can't be left alone and are capable of being left in the car.

YABU.

That is exactly what i said!!!!