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If you are short and thin please tell me what you eat?

171 replies

Guine · 04/07/2024 15:15

I am 5 ft 3. Have lost 25 pounds. Have a goal weight of 125 pounds. I should add that I have PCOS which means I put on weight easily.

Just wondering if you can only be that slim if you have a naturally high metabolism/are very active.
I’m on a lot of dieting forums and many people (my height) say it is just not sustainable for them to be below 10 stone.

But having said that you see plenty of slim people who don’t appear to be massively restricting.

I consume 1300 calories to lose weight. Exercise 3/4 x a week.

Just figuring out my goal.

OP posts:
LizzieSiddal · 05/07/2024 08:19

Eat what you fancy but portion size is so important, don’t over do it.

Im 5’3”, 9 st 4” and I’m 58 and about half a stone heavier than I’d like. (Just had a holiday and some big family celebrations). Will get below 9st as clothes feel and look so much nicer without that extra few pounds.

Sharkknife · 05/07/2024 08:38

I'm 5 foot and usually around 8 stone in my mid 30's. It's partly down to being very lucky that I seem to have a good metabolism but also portion sizes. The amount most people think is a normal portion is often a lot more than I could eat in one go. I am also a very slow eater so do leave food because I have had time to realise I'm full.

triangleatthetop · 05/07/2024 08:43

Interesting how given OP’s question some people are claiming to eat “whenever and whatever they want” but then just dropping it in there like an afterthought that they only eat one or two meals a day and no cakes etc as if that’s a minor point - when actually it’s likely to be the main reason

What they mean is they are in tune with their appetite. They aren’t using will power to resist the cake. They just don’t fancy eating it as they aren’t hungry.

I eat what I want, when I want. If I am in a cafe and I am peckish and I fancy a cake, I’ll buy one and eat it. I won’t otherwise though.

I had to train myself to get in tune with my appetite. I am glad I put the work in though. I used to have a really stressful, unhappy relationship with food and now I don’t.

triangleatthetop · 05/07/2024 08:53

I agree with pp re. Portion size too. Cakes and crisp packets etc are much bigger than they used to be. It’s easy to overeat.

I used to fill my plate and eat everything on it just because it was there, even if I was overfull afterwards.

Again, I had to train myself to recognize when my appetite was satiated.

CortieTat · 05/07/2024 09:37

Someone on another thread mentioned Secret Eaters. I've never heard of that reality show, I'm not in the UK. We have been watching it for the last few days with DH on Youtube. It's shocking what people consider "eating healthily" and the portion sizes were unbelievable.
Also the behaviour around the table, the lack of the bloody table! Nobody I have seen so far on the show had their meals at the table, except for festive occasions, I couldn't believe my eyes. People ate meals in front of their screens or slouched on sofas or bent over tiny coffee tables. How can they enjoy the food this way I have no idea.

Big cultural shock to me. No wonder I am able to keep my weight within the healthy BMI, my eating habits are completely different. It's perfectly normal in my family to eat every single meal at the table, no screens, no distractions. DC are doing it automatically. It's the same with neighbours, extended family and everyone I know.

ShallWeGoToTheFirepit · 05/07/2024 10:21

I'm 5'4 and 9 stone on the nose.

Breakfast - frozen fruit & veg smoothie with protein powder and collagen powder. Poached egg with whole meal or seeded bread.

Lunch - either a jacket potato cheese & beans, a salad, chicken on the bone, sandwich, or a salmon cream cheese and avo bagel.

Dinner - spag bol, curry, chilli, lasagne, salmon tray bakes, chicken tray bakes, stir fries, meat and 2 veg, Tuscan chicken, fish pie, Greek and Turkish dishes, flat breads / smashed burgers and salad, white fish, mash and veg. I always have plenty of veg with every meal.

I cook from scratch completely and follow a low UPF diet when I can. I think that makes a huge difference. I have quite a few carbs but don't do more than 2 carb meals a day. If I have chips I make them myself and air fry them. Lots of protein in my diet as well as oily fish and organic meats so I don't ever feel the need to snack really. I buy full fat everything. Milk, cheese, full fat steak mince from the butchers. All my meat comes from butchers or fish mongers. Full fat cream, sauces and condiments.

If I fancy something sweet after I'll have either full fat Greek yogurt or a protein yogurt.

Decisionsdecisions1 · 05/07/2024 16:59

OP - it’s whatever works best for you. Whether that’s low carb or counting calories or intermittent fasting or none of those. It’s what’s sustainable for you and what’s best for both your physical and mental health.

We have one life. Not many people will get to their 70s and wish they’d dieted more or had less fun (assuming they don’t have diet/alcohol related illnesses etc).

Try to eat plenty of veg and salads and lean protein - because that will reduce the risk of serious illness later on.

Try to exercise as that will help your mobility and strength later on.

Socialise, have fun, maintain friendships, and new friends - because mental health and loneliness are important too.

Above all don’t don’t don’t compare yourself to others. Everyone has things they are unhappy about. Whatever they look like.

Coffeerum · 05/07/2024 17:49

Interesting how given OP’s question some people are claiming to eat “whenever and whatever they want” but then just dropping it in there like an afterthought that they only eat one or two meals a day and no cakes etc

It’s almost like too many posters conflate someone eating ‘whatever they want’ with ‘as much as possible’. It’s perfectly possible to eat what you want without actively restricting.

WiddlinDiddlin · 05/07/2024 18:02

I don't think it is that lots of people interpret 'eat whatever you want' with 'eat as much as possible' (sure there are some who feel that way)...

Whats becoming apparent to ME is that one persons 'whatever I want' is significantly less calories and very different to the next persons 'whatever I want'.

My ultimate 'whatever I want' at the minute is half a tub of Ben and Jerrys. I could physically eat a whole tub, and some crisps, but I do not want to, it is definitely not about 'eat as much as possible', I really don't like feeling overly full and sick.

Someone elses 'whatever I want' might be five grapes and half a crustless Kraft cheese slice sandwich... or a massive salad... or two Big Macs, a pie and a McFlurry.

It must be very easy to remain slim if 'whatever you want' is frankly, bugger all and a very healthy low calorie bugger all at that! And yet overweight people are berated for lacking will-power, when in fact many slim people are that way whilst not using will-power at all!

Comedycook · 05/07/2024 18:16

WiddlinDiddlin · 05/07/2024 18:02

I don't think it is that lots of people interpret 'eat whatever you want' with 'eat as much as possible' (sure there are some who feel that way)...

Whats becoming apparent to ME is that one persons 'whatever I want' is significantly less calories and very different to the next persons 'whatever I want'.

My ultimate 'whatever I want' at the minute is half a tub of Ben and Jerrys. I could physically eat a whole tub, and some crisps, but I do not want to, it is definitely not about 'eat as much as possible', I really don't like feeling overly full and sick.

Someone elses 'whatever I want' might be five grapes and half a crustless Kraft cheese slice sandwich... or a massive salad... or two Big Macs, a pie and a McFlurry.

It must be very easy to remain slim if 'whatever you want' is frankly, bugger all and a very healthy low calorie bugger all at that! And yet overweight people are berated for lacking will-power, when in fact many slim people are that way whilst not using will-power at all!

Absolutely agree with this. If I genuinely ate what I wanted, I'd probably become morbidly obese. In fact, it's only sheer willpower that keeps me at a size 14-16! I have a huge appetite and am constantly thinking about food. I probably have more willpower than someone slim who is not fussed about food and is happy to just use food as fuel.

Lifeofthepartay · 05/07/2024 19:15

WhydoIcaresomuch · 04/07/2024 19:54

I think I’m lucky in that I have quite a small appetite. I love food but I feel full quickly so the same portion as my 8 year old, with veg sticks or salad, will fill me up. If I go for dinner I generally share a meal or my husband and eldest will finish mine. I do eat takeaways (and love them all), but maybe once a month. We always have treats at the weekend (I could eat chocolate until I’m sick). Generally though, I don’t have a sweet tooth and I don’t snack, although I’m anyone’s for a cold beer and crisps 😂

I am exactly the same with regards of preference of savoury food! Don't need cake, biscuits or choc. But I definitely have a big appetite 🙈😞

roundtheworldx · 05/07/2024 19:19

I am 5"4 and always seem to be 115lb whenever I weigh myself (which is every few months I guess) - I do not count calories but have naturally always gravitated towards intermittent fasting. I am not a breakfast person and I like big portions so I usually end up eating 1 big meal a day (whatever I fancy, I do love junk food!) and then maybe some small snacks.

roundtheworldx · 05/07/2024 19:22

Sorry forgot to answer what I actually eat, a typical what I eat in a day would be:

Coffee (with sugar and full fat milk)
If peckish, packet of crisps.
Big meal which could be absolutely anything. It could be a pizza, it could be a massive bowl of pasta, it might be salmon and rice, it might be a burger (dh makes really good ones) and then I'll follow up with dessert always. This would probably be a Gu pot.

TheHateIsNotGood · 05/07/2024 19:59

5ft 4" here - don't know how much I weigh - slim but mega-shoulders, age 62. For years/decades I've only eaten when I'm hungry not because it's a certain time - obviously if it's a 9-5 type job then I'll eat something at the traditional lunchtime and super-early starts I'd eat when it's 'break time'.

Now as to WHAT I eat, that generally depends on how much cooking I want to do, what's available either at home or wherever I am if I'm not close to home - but generally it's what I fancy eating - which again depends on several factors which are just things like how much manual/calorie-burning I've done, temperature, etc.

My body seems to tell me - you need a steak and, funds providing, I listen and act - same for a salad or eggs, cheese on toast, chocolate cake, a roast chicken dinner ad infinitum.

Thegreatgiginthesky · 06/07/2024 07:39

Yesterday I ate
Breakfast - wild salmon, capers, rye crackers, cream cheese, sprouted lentils, peanut butter and apple, handful of walnuts, crackers with comte. 2 coffees

Lunch - rye bread with avocado, chicken and sumac, salad with beetroot, leaves, carrots, sprouts, nuts and evoo. Raspberries and dark chocolate, yoghurt with whey protein

Dinner - baked chicken with garlic, tomatoes and red onions, roast potatoes with rosemary and thyme, broad beans, runners and peas. Kiwi with dark chocolate.

5'4" 50kg and I would say I eat whatever I want, normally just under 2000 calories a day to maintain a bmi of 19. I don't eat any ultra processed food becuase it makes me feel ill and used to give me cravings and make me gain belly fat and having cut it completely I no longer crave it.

I would recommend switching to a whole food diet to loose fat as it helps your body to naturally regular hunger. After a few weeks I found that whole foods started to taste amazing and I would rather eat the natural sweetness in something like a bell pepper than a chocolate cake. My weight dropped from 65kg to 50kg purely by cutting out upf. If anything my calorie intake has gone up. It also cured my anxiety/depression, body aches and gave me a ton more energy.

CortieTat · 06/07/2024 08:21

@Thegreatgiginthesky fantastic meals, some posts on this thread are making me seriously hungry 😋. Your diet sounds great to me, I don’t eat poultry but would totally have what you had in a day (swapping chicken for something else)

I had overnight oats for breakfast with chia, poppyseed, raw cocoa, pumpkin seeds, onaka, silken tofu and a small banana. This is my standard breakfast that I’ve had for over 3 years now, I frequently experiment with different seeds and dried fruit but the base of rolled oats, yogurt/onaka/kefir and water or plant milk stays the same.

3peassuit · 06/07/2024 08:33

My weight fluctuates between 8.10 and 9 stone.
I always have a good breakfast, lunch and dinner and keep snacking to a minimum. Breakfast would be porridge, lunch typically veg and lentil soup with whole meal bread, dinner maybe salmon with broccoli and brown rice. Snacks would be fruit and a few nuts. I eat cake and puddings but this tends just to be on Sunday when I have the family round.

letsgoooo · 07/07/2024 14:55

Thegreatgiginthesky · 06/07/2024 07:39

Yesterday I ate
Breakfast - wild salmon, capers, rye crackers, cream cheese, sprouted lentils, peanut butter and apple, handful of walnuts, crackers with comte. 2 coffees

Lunch - rye bread with avocado, chicken and sumac, salad with beetroot, leaves, carrots, sprouts, nuts and evoo. Raspberries and dark chocolate, yoghurt with whey protein

Dinner - baked chicken with garlic, tomatoes and red onions, roast potatoes with rosemary and thyme, broad beans, runners and peas. Kiwi with dark chocolate.

5'4" 50kg and I would say I eat whatever I want, normally just under 2000 calories a day to maintain a bmi of 19. I don't eat any ultra processed food becuase it makes me feel ill and used to give me cravings and make me gain belly fat and having cut it completely I no longer crave it.

I would recommend switching to a whole food diet to loose fat as it helps your body to naturally regular hunger. After a few weeks I found that whole foods started to taste amazing and I would rather eat the natural sweetness in something like a bell pepper than a chocolate cake. My weight dropped from 65kg to 50kg purely by cutting out upf. If anything my calorie intake has gone up. It also cured my anxiety/depression, body aches and gave me a ton more energy.

Do you realise that most people couldn't eat what you do and be lean? Even taller people. You are genetically blessed.

CortieTat · 07/07/2024 16:22

letsgoooo · 07/07/2024 14:55

Do you realise that most people couldn't eat what you do and be lean? Even taller people. You are genetically blessed.

I eat similarly varied meals (except for chicken) and I am definitely not genetically blessed, my father is obese with type 2 diabetes and more than half of the women in my family are/were overweight or obese. It’s portion control. Variety doesn’t equal quantity.

Thegreatgiginthesky · 07/07/2024 17:51

As well as portion control I think it is about making sure your plate is filled with the most nutrient dense fibre filled food. This naturally fills you up and stops any hunger pangs.

You need lots of fibre to support a healthy microbiome to keep low levels of fat. If you don't eat enough fibre all the microbes in your digestive tract eat the lining of your gut instead of the fibre which allows dangerous bacteria and chemicals to enter your blood stream.

There are studies showing that fecal transplant of an unhealthy microbiome to a healthy twin increases their weight even if the diet is kept the same.

Cutting out upf supports a healthy microbiome as emulsifiers and preservatives kill off the good bacteria which support weight loss and allow the bad bacteria to thrive. These produce unhealthy metabolites which can even affect your brain. 90% of your seratonin is made by the good bacteria in your gut which explains why cutting out upf can result in improvements in depression and anxiety. Cutting out upf was for me far more effective than an ssri.

FundaMental42 · 19/10/2024 10:32

MimitteAndElsaGoToSwitzerland · 04/07/2024 15:26

I'm the same height and I'm eight stone.

I tend to eat what I fancy, but I don't have a massive appetite so usually that's one big meal in the evenings. I'm not hungry for breakfast and I can't be bothered to get lunch a lot of the time.

For my dinner, I'll have whatever I like. I love a curry or a burger or really buttery pasta. I don't consider calories at all. I don't actually know very much about how many calories are in things. It's all about what will taste nice, so I throw in a lot of olive oil or butter.

I don't have much of a sweet tooth so I'm not having cake or biscuits much. I am a bit of a hazard around crisps though. I'll eat an entire multi pack in an evening so I don't buy those all the time because I couldn't afford to keep up with myself!

I drink an absolute ton of water every day. No alcohol, unless it's the weekend and I'm out with friends. When I've been dating someone who drinks in the week and I get tempted to join in regularly, I pile it on.

I also don't drink any sugary drinks regularly and never have tea or coffee.

I wouldn't say my diet was particularly healthy so I wouldn't encourage you to copy it! But since you asked!

This is me too, minus the alcohol.

im 5’3, have weighed between 40 and 50kg all my life, currently 45kg in my late 40s. I have never dieted, don’t look at calories and eat what I want. I don’t have a massive appetite though and at this stage in life I don’t think my body needs more than one full meal a day. I’ve never been a fan of breakfast (the thought of stuffing your face with food as soon as you wake up makes me feel urgh). I will snack (crisps are my undoing so try not to keep them in the house too often) but I don’t have a sweet tooth and never want a dessert after a meal (even when eating out).

I exercise when I want because I enjoy it (bike rides at the moment) but not consistently so. Recently had a health check done and was told my heart was 8 years younger than my age. That said, I don’t think I’m massively healthy. I do think there is too much focus put on eating in our culture and we really don’t need to eat as much as we do. I hate cooking and the obligation to cook for the family is my biggest pain. I’ve always felt that if there was a pill I could pop that would give me all the nutrition i needed for a day, i could happily stop eating. I also find fasting very helpful for detoxing and self discipline. I have never had any eating disorders! And I’m not depressed either 😂

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