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Do any of arch-lockdowners regret it?

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Refractory · 04/07/2024 01:12

Just that really.

I haven’t really been on MN since 2020 because I found the near complete support for lockdown far too upsetting.

the lockdowners in my life seem to not think about it much. For them, it’s just over.

with hindsight do you wish you’d been more sceptical?

would love a civil conversation about this.

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Mamai100 · 04/07/2024 06:34

SecretSoul · 04/07/2024 03:17

Actually, I care what @lovelysunshine22 thinks.

I think the views of our NHS workers are particularly valid. They were the ones facing an unknown virus with little protection as well as not having sufficient resources to treat the sickest COVID patients.

I think what the NHS frontline staff experienced during the pandemic was harrowing and it’s fairly shocking to see you brush off an opinion from someone who had to deal firsthand with the virus just because it doesn’t tally with your own thoughts.

I agree @SecretSoul

Sweden99 · 04/07/2024 06:35

timetobegin · 04/07/2024 06:32

I expect the responses you get will reflect how many people the poster knows who died, where injured or disabled by covid.

I do not think that is true. Most people understand that loved ones were dying.
My sister got some hate during that time as she was working in ICU: It was about ego, most people were disrupted by a situation that was not about them and they were not the experts in. That was really hard on the egos of some people, that they did change their mind in ICU reflects that it suddenly was about them.

Sondheimisademigod · 04/07/2024 06:37

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What a disgusting response.

Sweden99 · 04/07/2024 06:37

Singersong · 04/07/2024 06:24

The general public didn't know hardly anything at all. That's the point. They blindly went along with complete and utter insanity because the government told them to and they didn't have the sense to question it.

I can think of many times in the past when that has lead to civilians committing atrocities. People think they would never do anything like that, but the pandemic showed they clearly would.

Your ego was hurt as it was not about you.
Most rules, laws and social conventions are not understood by you. That is not nazisim.
What is different is that you were not important. That can be really hard on your self-esteem. Please, work on that.

WhatThenEh · 04/07/2024 06:37

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NotAllowed · 04/07/2024 06:39

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FunIsland · 04/07/2024 06:39

NotAllowed · 04/07/2024 06:34

It wasn’t a worker, it was someone doing their shopping.

I wasn’t referring to the person shouting at you, just making the point of why ignore them for the sake of it. Shop staff were in a really difficult position, why would I choose to make that worse for someone?

Sondheimisademigod · 04/07/2024 06:40

Charlie2121 · 04/07/2024 03:47

It was a colossal over reaction that damaged the economy immensely.

I still believe that people were badly misled regarding the risks and costs involved. The risks were hugely over stated and the costs hugely understated. That’s not to say we needed to do nothing however what was done was excessive.

Unbelievable and so ignorant of the facts

BigMandyHarris · 04/07/2024 06:40

Singersong · 04/07/2024 06:04

I have nothing to regret because I didn't follow the rules.

Let’s hope no-one else regrets that you didn’t follow the rules.

Beautiful3 · 04/07/2024 06:40

FunIsland · 04/07/2024 06:28

I’m really interested to know why you find this funny rather than anger provoking.

Because the whole thing was crazy and people were getting angry over masks and leaving the house. People couldn't see how bat shit crazy it all was. People still breathe through holes in masks, and germs still circulate. People still had to go to work, shops and hospital. The vaccinations didn't stop the spread at all. People got angry at non vaxxers, even though it didn't stop the spread. People blindly following rules. I'm not angry at all. It was fun having time off with my children, having daily walks when it's quiet everywhere. We baked lovely bread and cakes. It was a wonderful rest for us, apart from my husband who had to work throughout. My eldest fondly mentions how great lockdown was for us!

cryinglaughing · 04/07/2024 06:40

I abided by the rules and have no regrets.

I do regret how it has changed things and people.
Anxiety in children seems to have increased.
The entitlement to wfh and not go to the office I find both amazing and appalling. I know people who have been off sick for months because they refuse to go back to the office they happily worked in for 20 years prior. Now the commute is apparently too onerous 🤯

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 04/07/2024 06:41

DefyingGravitas · 04/07/2024 01:25

I guess the people that thought we didn’t need to get vaccinated or stay apart from each other, benefitted from the people that followed the rules, and then were able to say ‘see! We didn’t need to do that!’ There’s just one teeny tiny piece of the puzzle they’re missing… But no worries, come along and call us ‘arch’ something…

This

NotAllowed · 04/07/2024 06:41

FunIsland · 04/07/2024 06:39

I wasn’t referring to the person shouting at you, just making the point of why ignore them for the sake of it. Shop staff were in a really difficult position, why would I choose to make that worse for someone?

At no point did I mention shop staff. I ignored the arrows because I’m not a lemming and will walk where I want. A virus has no concept of arrows on the floor.

LaughingCat · 04/07/2024 06:41

OP: “would love a civil conversation about this.”

also the OP: drops a highly emotive and controversial topic in AIBU at 1am and disappears

Sweden99 · 04/07/2024 06:42

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Please, mind your language.
You did not get the arrows and seem to have a life that does not match your ego. That is enough for this discussion.

KickHimInTheCrotch · 04/07/2024 06:42

Most of mumsnet has amnesia. The threads back then were totally and utterly bonkers. I stay on MN for the craziness though.

Growlybear83 · 04/07/2024 06:42

I followed the rules to the letter and am glad that I can look back with a clear conscience that I could not have done more to avoid catching and spreading the virus. Like many others, I am still angry that the first lockdown was so late, and I always felt that the rules around lockdowns, meeting others, mask wearing etc were not enforced strictly enough. Some terrible decisions were made by the government, such as discharging so many elderly people to care homes without testing and the mad eat out to help out scheme, and I will always feel anger she. I look back at how Johnson and his cronies treated the public with such contempt with their flagrant disregard of the rules.

OrangeSlices998 · 04/07/2024 06:43

Beautiful3 · 04/07/2024 06:40

Because the whole thing was crazy and people were getting angry over masks and leaving the house. People couldn't see how bat shit crazy it all was. People still breathe through holes in masks, and germs still circulate. People still had to go to work, shops and hospital. The vaccinations didn't stop the spread at all. People got angry at non vaxxers, even though it didn't stop the spread. People blindly following rules. I'm not angry at all. It was fun having time off with my children, having daily walks when it's quiet everywhere. We baked lovely bread and cakes. It was a wonderful rest for us, apart from my husband who had to work throughout. My eldest fondly mentions how great lockdown was for us!

The vaccine was never promised to reduce the spread, it was to reduce the likelihood of serious illness and hospitalisation. And it worked.

Sweden99 · 04/07/2024 06:44

@NotAllowed

Wow! You are amazing. A brave principled stand again grocery store directions.

It is like 'Karens Against Hilter' expect it is against old people and NHS workers :D

Sweden99 · 04/07/2024 06:45

OrangeSlices998 · 04/07/2024 06:43

The vaccine was never promised to reduce the spread, it was to reduce the likelihood of serious illness and hospitalisation. And it worked.

As someone in the industry, I was disappointed by how little it affected transmission rates. It is a problem with respiratory viruses, but I had hoped it would be a bit better.
That said, all the vaccines were remarkable at preventing death and visits to ICU ("Save the NHS") and far better at that than I expected.

Relaxd · 04/07/2024 06:45

I am glad we no longer need to isolate - but I feel it was the right thing to do at the time - particularly until antivirals and vaccines became more readily available for those that need them. We easily kept in touch with people virtually the way most people did and in some ways ended up with closer relationships with some of our relatives! Vector borne diseases progress and mutate over time, avoiding another lockdown with future different diseases i assume would be linked to availability of suitable vaccines.

Onedaystronger · 04/07/2024 06:46

LaughingCat · 04/07/2024 06:41

OP: “would love a civil conversation about this.”

also the OP: drops a highly emotive and controversial topic in AIBU at 1am and disappears

Edited

Good point. Maybe journalism needs a helping hand to bridge reporting restrictions today?!

nolongersurprised · 04/07/2024 06:46

I remember a woman who posted on MN who lived extremely rurally, to the extent that she was miles away from the nearest house, asking if it would be ok if she could walk her dogs 2-3 times/day, rather than once. She stated that she rarely saw anyone on her walks, and if she did they were a speck in the distance.

Some posters told her that no, she shouldn’t, because what if she had COVID and transmitted it to the leaves and someone else brushed past the leaves and caught the virus.

absolute insanity

FunIsland · 04/07/2024 06:46

Beautiful3 · 04/07/2024 06:40

Because the whole thing was crazy and people were getting angry over masks and leaving the house. People couldn't see how bat shit crazy it all was. People still breathe through holes in masks, and germs still circulate. People still had to go to work, shops and hospital. The vaccinations didn't stop the spread at all. People got angry at non vaxxers, even though it didn't stop the spread. People blindly following rules. I'm not angry at all. It was fun having time off with my children, having daily walks when it's quiet everywhere. We baked lovely bread and cakes. It was a wonderful rest for us, apart from my husband who had to work throughout. My eldest fondly mentions how great lockdown was for us!

I think this post just shows that you are ill informed to be honest which explains why you are laughing rather than angry.

Masks reduce rather than stop the spread of infection and the vaccine was not intended to stop the spread but reduce the severity of impact if you did contract it, which worked as demonstrated by the fact that following the introduction of the vaccine, fewer people ended up hospitalized and those who were, were largely unvaccinated.

Livelovebehappy · 04/07/2024 06:47

Hindsight is great. We can all look back and pinpoint what we should have done, but when we’re dealing with something in the moment, which we’ve never had happen before, we just have to act on advice and probabilities. Had we gone with no lock down, it could have gone the other way and caused a lot more deaths. Time for us all to move on, and I say that as someone who caught Covid and still I have no smell or taste four year later.

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