Do any of arch-lockdowners regret it?

[Refractory]

Just that really.

I haven’t really been on MN since 2020 because I found the near complete support for lockdown far too upsetting.

the lockdowners in my life seem to not think about it much. For them, it’s just over.

with hindsight do you wish you’d been more sceptical?

would love a civil conversation about this.

I didn't get vaccinated or believe the rules about the masks and leaving the house. I was respectful and wore a mask to the shops, for manners sake. But I did think people were crazy! When I found out Parliament had parties and didn't follow any covid rules, I.laughed so hard at our sheep herd mentality.

Or just crack on with life but not get near people to reduce spread of a disease. It wasnt for that long.

I take immune suppression drugs, i was told by my neurologist had I caught COVID in the first wave I would have died, I am grateful we locked down and I'm alive and well because of that. I have caught COVID twice since I was vaccinated first time long after lock down ended and the second time was in April and I was ill for 8 weeks. Unfortunately no one takes it seriously now and carries on as if it's "just a cold" which it is to many, but it's not just COVID that is a risk to me any contagious illness could make me very ill . I don't think the government locked us down fast enough there are people that would still be with us now if they had, including my lovely boss and my cousin.

The general public didn't know hardly anything at all. That's the point. They blindly went along with complete and utter insanity because the government told them to and they didn't have the sense to question it.

I can think of many times in the past when that has lead to civilians committing atrocities. People think they would never do anything like that, but the pandemic showed they clearly would.

The lock down in March 2020 - yes I think that was necessary and we followed the rules.

But the subsequent ones when we were in tiers/levels and when the rules were just nuts? Not so much.

It wasn’t for that long? Are you kidding? It went on for years.

Same. Followed lockdown 1. Ignored the ones after that* I’d also had Covid by then, so the fear was gone.

*except to use to get out of seeing the in-laws

Exactly. In a recent thread, someone developed covid while on holiday, yet PPs were still encouraging her to sit by pool.
@Refractory a civilised conversation takes into account that lockdown should have started earlier, and admit that 1000s of people would not have died if we had.
But I suspect you are a denier, so no point trying

I had a baby weeks before the first lockdown, her first year/18m were marred by COVID and the isolation we experienced. I followed the rules, I wanted to keep us all safe and do my part, I got a vaccine as soon as I could and yet others selfishly boast about the risks they took and their disregard for lockdown. You got lucky, some of us had friends and family who were seriously ill and died. An awful awful time.

I’m really interested to know why you find this funny rather than anger provoking.

Followed the rules, lockdown ended and life returned to normal for us. No regrets.

Personally I think it’s really unhealthy to be dwelling on this.

It happened, it was dealt with the way people thought best at the time.

In the nicest way, I think you should move on now.

Yes, and it was done better in Denmark. And the death rate in Denmark was far, far lower.

Much of this is because lockdown was so late that the virus was already endemic so the measures were more urgent but less effective.

Also, rules have to be simple and easy communicate to the police and easy for the police to enforce and communicate. Combined with not knowing much about the disease.

Well, let's keep our fingers crossed that you, nor any of your family develop a condition which requires the cooperation of others so they don't die. A nut allergy, for example, and they are on a plane
People such as yourself make society shit

I was all those things before I got Covid. You were lucky.
(Although I agree about the arrows on the floor, that said why the hell would I make some poor Tesco worker’s life difficult by ignoring them when it makes no difference to my life whatsoever)

I am still angry this useless gov waited so long to take the lockdown decision. The lockdown itself was great for me in my situation at the time (I appreciate for some it was awful) and my partner and I look back at those memories together fondly.

I only supported the first lockdown as it was worth trying as a first measure.

After that it became clear to me that it was pointless exercise as infections would just start again as soon as the lockdowns ended.

It was wrong to keep young and healthy people stuck at home and have an endless cycle of lockdowns simply because we have a health system that can't cope.

The Tories failed to learned from that and to start funding the NHS properly so that this does not happen again...

'Partygate' showed that the rules did not apply to those in charge and that they did not follow them.

I think the lockdowns became an exercise in population control at some point and people started ignoring the rules once they realised that.

Out of the many mistakes the government made locking down was not be of them. (Other than they did it too late)

I expect the responses you get will reflect how many people the poster knows who died, where injured or disabled by covid.

The reason we have to make restrictions so utterly simple and keep the messaging very simple is so the vast majority of stupid people can still get it. And you are still confused.
The arrows are for you to help you keep a distance. That you missed that makes you very stupid, not a brave independent thinker. I was busy working 12 hour days during that period, you were doing nothing because you were not importantt, that is your struggle.

I completely understand how you feel. However it’s really hard now, I had covid earlier this year (for the 5th time) and was told by work that I had to go in unless I was seriously ill as cocos is now treated like any other illness. As much as I wanted to stay home I can’t afford to lose a week of pay.

I followed the rules and I'm glad that in doing so it appears that I was part of helping to prevent the NHS from collapsing.

But I also have regrets.

I regret that I stayed at home whilst my best friend's husband died of a brain tumour. He dies in his own home because our local wonderful hospice understandably would not have let his family visit if he'd been admitted. So they had to choose between him dying at home with his wife and kids around him, or saying goodbye to them whilst very much alive and waiting to die whilst being cared for in the hospice but without his family close by.

I regret not breaking the rules to be with my friend in her home during that time to support her.

I also regret following the rules around his funeral and wake especially knowing members of the government were partying. She could not have more than a handful of people at her husband's funeral, and no wake was allowed. She was desperately unhappy and needed support.

I have other regrets too around my own elderly parents, separated and living alone needing support and company and me depriving them of that to follow the rules.

I do. 2 members of household are immunosuppressee.
I hate the arrogance of those who thought they knew better then, and still do.
Ignorant feckers

It wasn’t a worker, it was someone doing their shopping.