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Medical Negligence claim against GP

97 replies

amnidyaa · 03/07/2024 12:15

Aibu to think I have grounds for a claim?

In March 2023 I had an operation on my spine for Cauda equina syndrome. After the operation the spinal specialist sent a letter to me and mh GP saying there is a 5cm growth on my ovary and they recommend a follow up with a Gynecologist and another scan. I went to see my GP and enquired about getting the growth looked at by gynaecology. The GP refused and said people have growths all the time and its nothing to worry about and she said she will not be ordering a follow up.
Then 1 year later in March 2024 I had pain and went to A&E and they did a scan and found the growth was now 10cm and had spread all over the pelvic region. I ended up having to have a hysterectomy within 2 weeks and I had to lose both my ovaries and uterus because the growth had spread. I am now in menopause at the age of 39 and unable to have children all because my GP didnt follow up on the growth before it spread.

Would it brlw unreasonable to think I have a claim?

OP posts:
ruby1957 · 13/07/2024 15:02

Deebee90 · 13/07/2024 02:33

Hell yes I’d say you have a case. Sounds like the standard shoddy GP. They don’t give a crap about women’s issues most of the time. I had to fight for my diagnosis with gynae. Good luck. Because of their negligence they took the right you have to a child away so I wouldn’t let it drop.

Sadly it seems the op's GP is a woman - who really should have been more on the ball and followed up.

Sorry to hear your sad story OP - hope you get some explanation of what went wrong.

Appin · 13/07/2024 15:16

It absolutely does seem like you have a case, and I'm so sorry this happened to you.

I made a medical negligence claim against the NHS, it's a lengthy process (6 years for me). You need to make the claim within 3 years, but it's possible that deadlines could be extended and then extended again. So as a previous poster recommended, it's definitely best to try and move on in the meantime. For me the case has just ticked along in the background, frustratingly slowly.

A successful claim will not make you feel better about what has happened to you. But it will help with some of the longer term side effects and unknowns that now face you.

nocoolnamesleft · 13/07/2024 15:21

Why on earth didn't the hospital doctor make a direct referral to a colleague, for the result they had discovered? Dumping it on the GP just made it more likely to be missed. Yes, it would have been good if the GP had picked up the pieces, but they shouldn't have had to. It's the responsibility of the person ordering the tests to act on the result.

CoI I have experience of this both as the hospital consultant making my own onwards referrals, and also as a patient when my respiratory consultant picked up a possible thyroid tumour on CT chest, and correctly referred me on to the surgeons without faffing about with the GP.

As476 · 13/07/2024 15:24

I had to have an ultrasound for lymph nodes in my groin. The ultrasound tech did my abdomen whilst I was there and found ovarian cysts. My Gp referred me to gynae and it was a 16 month wait. The big cyst burst whilst I was waiting to be seen and I ended up in hospital for 3 days. I’m not sure a referal would have made a difference OP but it definitely should have been done!

amnidyaa · 13/07/2024 15:26

The solicitor did ask for the details of the GP and the hospital specialist so maybe their expert will look at all the details and see where the balls been dropped.
For me its more that I went back to the GP and even brought up my history and she dismissed me. And I wonder how many other women she might have dismissed that have had bad outcomes too.

OP posts:
Baseline14 · 13/07/2024 15:44

I think its fair to say that the surgeon could have potentially referred to gyne independently. However the GP didn't miss the information, they assessed it and deemed it non necessary. The patient has also presented multiple times with pain in that area and none of this warrants a scan and now she has had devastating consequences.

AnxiousAlicia · 15/08/2024 10:54

Londonrach1 · 03/07/2024 12:47

It's a very long and intrusive process legal action and your medical notes will be cross examined. However the only way to know if you have a claim is to seek legal advice in real life. Totally understand you looking into it.

@Londonrach1 have you been through it? I posted a q about this and a number of people said it had been less stressful than they thought it would be. Keen to hear both sides of the argument before I make a decision. Thank you!

AnxiousAlicia · 15/08/2024 10:58

MatildaTheCat · 03/07/2024 12:50

This is correct. I’ve been through a clinical negligence claim and it’s complex.

Im sorry this happened to you and I’d certainly recommend talking to a reputable firm of lawyers who specialise in medical negligence. I also recommend getting on with your life and getting well and strong because these things drag on for a very long time indeed.

You should also take advice on making a complaint t the GMC and your surgery. I was advised to wait until the claim was concluded.

Good luck.

@MatildaTheCat do you regret doing it? My concern is it will be shadow hanging over me for years. I've been advised I have a case but can't decide if best to try and put it behind me or push ahead. I saw above one case took 6 years, it's a long time to have that kind of stress. Thank you.

AnxiousAlicia · 15/08/2024 11:06

Blackcats7 · 13/07/2024 09:23

@amnidyaa I would suggest you research medical negligence solicitors and pick the one you want and contact them direct. If you just go via the huge number of no win no fee firms and call or email their general enquiries your case will be evaluated at a very low level and the advice given can be poor. I speak from experience.
I found a solicitor who is actually a qualified doctor too and who had worked in the nhs at a senior level before retraining in the law. I read her history of cases and was impressed so I emailed her directly and got far better advice. I had offered to pay her for a one off consultation but after hearing the details she took my case on a conditional fee. If I had allowed the non qualified staff who take calls for the other firms to deter me I would have got nowhere.

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@Blackcats7 do you mind my asking how the process was for you please? Did you find it ok? Thank you x

AnxiousAlicia · 15/08/2024 11:08

kiwiane · 13/07/2024 12:36

If you’re in a Trade Union they may support your claim through referral to their solicitors.
You have 3 years in which to claim so best to look into it now.
I claimed and won against a locum GP; it was stressful.

@kiwiane why was it stressful please? Trying to weigh up what to do and want to hear all sides of the story so I don't go in blind...

CuloGrande · 15/08/2024 11:14

The surgeon identified the growth and is equally as capable to refer to their colleague. In fact, it could be argued that they identified it and therefore it was there responsibility.
The GP should have acted on the referral, but equally i have seen 100s of GP referrals turned down in this scenario as they didn’t identity the issue and it was on the surgeon who identified it to do a proper referral.

im really sorry this happened to you, but please make sure the above is considered in your action.

DowngradedToATropicalStorm · 15/08/2024 11:25

Watermelonistheanswertoallthings · 03/07/2024 15:37

I would say that you do have a shot at a claim.

It's obviously been very distressing for you, and I am very sorry that this is the outcome.

You have to make the claim within 3 years, I don't know if that would mean from the initial referral or from your surgery.

I am in the midst of pursuing a claim myself and it is a very long, very drawn out process, they will use anything in your notes to try and win. The Dr I have a case against has been struck off the medical board but still it is our (hundreds of patients) word against his/the trust and it is dragging.

It's mentally difficult and I would try to access therapy if at all possible.

The claim must be filed within three years of your date of knowledge of the failure.

Paganpentacle · 15/08/2024 11:40

Typical in that someone has identified an issue during their investigations (consultant) who then failed to deal with it and binned it off on the GP to 'consider' a referral. The GP considered it and didn't feel it was an issue. Did the GP have all relevant info??

Jadebanditchillipepper · 15/08/2024 11:41

I'm sorry that this has happened to you, but I would say that the spinal surgeon is just as negligent as your GP - The GMC are very clear that it is the responsibility of the requestor of a test to follow up and act upon the results. In some areas referrals for different problems do go back to the GP (I'm never sure why - I think this is wrong as it just increases the potential for things to get missed and piles even more work onto an already overloaded system), That isn't the case for a potential malignancy.

Also, where I work, copies of "red flag" imaging reports automatically get sent to cancer services who will follow it up and make sure that this is acted upon - so I'm not sure why that didn't happen in your case? It's a safety mechanism because sometimes these things do get missed or referrals go missing etc

Paganpentacle · 15/08/2024 11:42

CuloGrande · 15/08/2024 11:14

The surgeon identified the growth and is equally as capable to refer to their colleague. In fact, it could be argued that they identified it and therefore it was there responsibility.
The GP should have acted on the referral, but equally i have seen 100s of GP referrals turned down in this scenario as they didn’t identity the issue and it was on the surgeon who identified it to do a proper referral.

im really sorry this happened to you, but please make sure the above is considered in your action.

Thank you. Personally sick to death of doing 3rd hand referrals for a person I've never seen on the basis of a 2 line letter and no access to original scan reports.
The original clinician should have dealt with the issue.

FranticFrankie · 15/08/2024 11:45

So sorry to hear this, OP
Family member had consultant to consultant referral about 18 months ago
Seen fairly quickly too; further scans/tests done with no hassle
Good luck OP

Blackcats7 · 15/08/2024 13:06

AnxiousAlicia · 15/08/2024 11:06

@Blackcats7 do you mind my asking how the process was for you please? Did you find it ok? Thank you x

I am still going through it and so can’t say fully as yet but I know from other experiences there will be victim blaming and mud slinging to come, there always is in any attempt to hold an organisation to account.
I am prepared for it though.
I am now seeing expert witness gp/ consultants to prepare reports. The whole process will probably take years but there is always the hope that we can come to agreement out of court. If there is no agreement possible I am ready to follow it through.

Heidi1976 · 15/08/2024 13:49

I think a question you need to ask is of the surgeon who effectively made you infertile. Was that absolutely required for a 10cm growth? I had a 6cm growth and kept all organs.

AnxiousAlicia · 15/08/2024 13:50

Thanks @Blackcats7 - has it been easy to put it into the background thus far or does it take up a lot of your thoughts? Yep the victim-blaming/mud-slinging I would expect but dread. x

Sinderalla · 15/08/2024 13:58

amnidyaa · 03/07/2024 12:40

Thanks for the replies.

I had pains on left side but the GP said its just period pains.

The discharge letter after my Cauda equina operation had a section called 'Recommendations for GP' and it detailed the 5cm growth and said 'this should be further evaluated with ultrasound and gynaecology referral'

The GP failed to follow up and I don't think she'll be able to justify why she didnt follow the recommendations. Thats why I'm thinking it comes under negligence...

Get on to a solicitor! Negligence! GP's are useless!

notapizzaeater · 15/08/2024 13:59

I'm currently 3 years into this, please check your house insurance - I initially went with the union solicitor but my legal cover covered a different one. Expect it to take years and years.

JoyousPinkPeer · 15/08/2024 14:11

Check your house insurance, hopefully you have legal protection cover which you can use to fight this.
Do not settle too early - as you perhaps don't know the full consequences of your GP inaction.

Blackcats7 · 15/08/2024 14:16

AnxiousAlicia · 15/08/2024 13:50

Thanks @Blackcats7 - has it been easy to put it into the background thus far or does it take up a lot of your thoughts? Yep the victim-blaming/mud-slinging I would expect but dread. x

It doesn't occupy my thoughts that much but tbh I have a lot worse things going on.
Knowing it is a slow process with no guarantee of the outcome I just let it all tick along and simply do whatever I need to when the solicitor asks.
Completing my witness statement was quite upsetting though as it makes you think about it all in detail all over again.

AnxiousAlicia · 15/08/2024 14:18

Blackcats7 · 15/08/2024 14:16

It doesn't occupy my thoughts that much but tbh I have a lot worse things going on.
Knowing it is a slow process with no guarantee of the outcome I just let it all tick along and simply do whatever I need to when the solicitor asks.
Completing my witness statement was quite upsetting though as it makes you think about it all in detail all over again.

@Blackcats7 see I'm actually writing my witness statement now before I bring the claim just to see how it makes me feel - if that makes sense! I really appreciate your help and hope you have a good outcome - keeping everything crossed for you!

Lemonyfuckit · 15/08/2024 14:19

I'm sorry you're going through this OP. Good luck with the claim as yes, I tend to think that women so often just dismissed when it's something which really really should be followed up. It certainly sounds like it from what you've posted.