To think the public sector will get worse under Labour

[MeadowL]

Long term sickness is already nearly double of that in the private sector, aibu to think that this will get even worse under Labour?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/290241/uk-sickness-absence-rate-public-vs-private-sector/

Our Tory council wants us to WFH 60% of the time, and thanks to this has sold buildings to avoid going bankrupt due to Tory austerity. So, YABU.

Tosh.
Public sector is very very far from bloated.
Cuts to funding have meant year on year more work being done by fewer people.
Sick rates are high because they're keeling over.
Thanks OP for actually making me want to vote Labour 👍

Oh absolutely, only Labour people wfh 🙄

Exactly. If local authorities didn’t make everyone wfh they would have to provide them with offices and then would be criticised for that.

I can't even...

This is pretty desperate stuff, based on what exactly? It's also perfectly possible to work effectively at home in 2024.

I think in healthcare certainly a lot of staff are off with burnout from being completely overworked and the moral injury of seeing people in getting such poor care despite them working their arses off.

It will get worst no matter who gets in.
anyone thinking labour is going to prevent this is not thinking logically.
both main parties are not going to solve anything

I see no one has actually addressed the graph in the OP 🤔🫣

My point was that this gap will widen even further, you can get away with a hell of a lot more in the public sector imo.

And because public services are so stretched with such dire budgets that individuals are stressed to the max not being able to deliver the service they want to under current conditions.

Empower people, reduce stress, increase productivity.

In fact what it is is Tory dinosaurs who haven't moved with the times that think if they can't see the little people at their desks they can't be trusted to work. Staff satisfaction goes a long way towards productivity.

And you haven’t addressed any of the responses so 🤷‍♀️

Hahaha - have you not wondered why absence is so high in the public sector? I can assure you it is not people just taking advantage.

In my part of the public sector people are off because of various forms of mental health - I believe attributed to lack of funding and no staff.

On that basis you are being unreasonable.

However I dont think it is unreasonable to question how a Labour Government might get public services out of the lack of investment over the past 16 years.

What? The fact that it's perfectly normal ?

You don't 'get away' with more in the public sector.

If there is more absence in the public sector it's more likely because of the cuts after cuts for over a decade.

In my sector, education, staff are struggling with lack of resources, children who should be in special schools, poor pay, ridiculously long hours and heavy workload, and then to top it all off, being told how lazy we are by the media and politicians.

Bloated? Oh do fuck off - the public sector is on its needs due to cuts, there are not enough social workers, teachers, doctors, nurses, carers.

I think your graph shows the trend as going down? So less staff sickness across both public and private? With no real effect of who was in government.

Personally I think the public sector will get worse under any new govmt as there is very little money (thanks to brexit and loans built up over covid)

God this ‘bloated public sector’ crap is so boring. 😴 It’s just not true. This idea that all public sector staff are all idle bastards is just bullshit and frankly insulting.

YABU. There is high sickness in the public sector due to diabolical pay and working conditions. I have moved from the public sector to the private sector. In the public sector I was doing the work of 3 people due to mass redundancies to save money because of underfunding. I was incredibly stressed, and felt ill on a daily basis. My salary is now far higher for the same role and I have far less stress because we’re appropriately staffed and my workload is normal.

I've worked in the public sector under Labour and Conservatives. It was better under Labour.

Me too, and I agree. In fact there's no comparison.

I wonder if that would be the same statistic if they weren't allowed full pay whilst being off sick?

I wonder if the absences would reduce if there were more people to do the work required.

As with everyone who receives sick pay as part of their contract of employment - it is for a set period of time. CS and public sector employees do not receive sick pay for an indefinite period of time.

What’s wrong with working from home?

Good for them. Happier employees.

I think you'd get on with Jacob Rees-Mogg @MeadowL