AMIB to ask high school to rethink banning skirts for year 7?

[MaggyMays]

AIBU… My daughters about to start high school and they have decided to introduce a new uniform policy with no skirts allowed for just the year 7’s. The years above them can have the choice! This seems grossly unfair. I'm sure its not following the guidelines correctly. Has anyone else come across this?

This is so sad.

Sounds like a school with poor discipline and leadership. Schools, with 1-2 k children need to be tightly managed. Skirts are not the issue, lack of respect is due to a poor school culture. Teens can be rude, grumpy and rebellious, it's nature. If their grown ups can't manage them, the school has to. That starts with the SLT. If these girls weren't rude and rebellious about their skirts, they'd kick off about something else. This whole drama is pure misogyny.

OP, do campaign for skirts, please do.

We fought (unsuccessfully) for the right to wear trousers at school 🤣. How things have changed.

School is being sensible and phasing them out. Dealing with teenage girls with arse cheek hanging out, deliberately ripping holes all over tights daily etc etc is such a waste of time but has to be done. Get rid of the skirts and the associated issues.

At DCs secondary shorts are allowed for all up to year 11.

One of the best schools I know has no skirts, just sensible trousers/shorts for all, polos and sweatshirts all the way up to yr11. Comfy, practical, no faffing with rebellion in the form of short/back to front etcties, undone top buttons, short skirts and all the other uniform based annoyances....and get on with the job of learning instead.

I think it's perfectly sensible for girls at secondary school to all wear trousers, for the sake of decency and to prevent any males from trying to look up the girls' skirts.

If older girls are still being allowed to wear skirts it's probably because skirts were part of the uniform at the time but when the girls grow out of their school skirts they wiill have to wear trousers instead. This saves the parents un-necessary cost and expense.

Girls are lucky to be allowd to wear trousers at all, because when i attended an all-girls grammar school in the 1960's it was still considered unacceptable for females to weat trousers AT ALL in some circumstances and cerainly at school it was unthinkalble tha girls should even WANT to wear trousers at all!

@cobden28 I remember my mum as female teacher in a private school not being allowed to wear trousers!

I've seen first hand the false accusations towards male teachers who are simply doing their job of enforcing the school rules. These kids can, and do, ruin people's lives and mental health with their behaviour and accusations.

I've had to have quiet words with girls whose skirts were so short that went they went up the (open, 60s style) staircase they were pretty much flashing everyone on lower stairs to themselves.

Banning uniform is the idea but then they'd be in in daisy dukes and crop tops 🙈

Me too, although we actually were successful, never wore a skirt to school again!
The in the 6th form we mounted an equally successful campaign to be allowed to wear jeans.
Maybe I should have gone into politics...

Sense sensible to introduce trousers. I drove past a secondary school near me the other week when the kids were leaving and the skirts were so short they were non existing on all the girls. I think I saw maybe one or two with slightly longer skirts. I can imagine it being impossible for the male teacher as how can you not look? I know I looked because I could basically see their bottoms.

@shearwater2 me too.
Just let them wear their own clothes.
I rarely see teenage girls in teeny tiny skirts out of school - they wear leggings, trackies or jeans.

I think phasing skirts out of uniforms is a good idea.

There are hordes of school children on my commute and I've lost count of the number of children I've seen having to hold their skirt against their body as it is so short the slightest puff of air will display their backside to the world.

I don't get this awful trend and I don't see the point of wearing a skirt so short you have to hold it down constantly and aren't comfortable.

Until this fashion trend stops I can see why schools would want to insist on trousers.

It just looks so scruffy. The boys look fine but the girls wear skirts so short they're barely as long at the blazer hem and it looks terrible.

I wouldn't be allowed to go to work dressed like that and it's totally inappropriate.

^yes

why do you feel you have the right to interfere in the HT's running of the school?

@frightenedmum1 the OP could argue that the head teacher has changed the rules AFTER people have chosen, applied and accepted a place at that school.
Some people might have chosen a different school had they known.

I totally understand this policy, and phasing it in the most sensible way of doing it.
That said, if it was imposed on teenage me (or even adult me to be honest) I would not have been happy. As someone with a much smaller waist than hips you’ve got much more chance of seeing my knickers from my trousers falling down than my skirt riding up.
It is what it is though, rules are rules and you suck it up and get on with it.

It's interesting that frightenedmum1 thinks asking a headteacher to reconsider a policy that will impact female students is interfering. Community consultation is pretty standard these days including in schools. It's somewhat outdated way of thinking about education. If skirts are out, get rid of the whole ridiculous concept of school uniform. All that polyester 😩

Girls rolled up their skirts in the 1960s, nothing new there.

We didn't roll them up so short that our knickers and bum cheeks were on show.

I rarely see teenage girls in teeny tiny skirts out of school

Maybe not, but you do see them in teeny tiny shorts with their bum cheeks hanging out.

You are deliberately misconstruing this and you know it.

I wish my school would do this! Is an independent. but even do, the uniform flouring is rife. I have to walk upstairs behind girls with skirts sad I short that yes their bum cheeks are on show. Obviously I avert my gaze but it is really unfair on boys. It isn’t a case of pandering to men -it is being fair to everyone. So trousers for everyone we old be an excellent solution.

So misogynistic.

It's not mysogynistic at all. It's simply not appropriate for very young girls to be exposing underwear and sometimes their bums at school. Ask yourself why boys are covered and girls are not?
I believe in equality and both boys and girls should dress decently for school. I can assure you that if a boy has his trousers hanging down with his boxers on display, he is told to pull his trousers up immediately.

Does it make me a misandrist if I prefer men don't show their arse crack as they go about their business?

Or do we all just have a certain level of decency whereby we don't show our underwear or any part of our bottoms when we're going about our days.

Surely then adhering to any uniform regulation is grossly unfair.
I personally wouldn't really want my kid to go to a uniform school, but if it was in the interest of their education then you wear what your told.
If I'm a nurse I wear my uniform correctly. If I'm a graphic designer I probably wear arty glasses and trendy garb of my own choosing.

I take it you have never walked up stairs in a secondary school behind a girl and with an unwanted view of her thong and bum cheeks and on 1 occasion rather more

No thongs in the 1960s and no waxing for 13 year olds.

It isnt just about men not wanting to see it.

Yes

Constantly- pull it down for girls- pull them up for boys and just hope that 1 day you dont get it the wrong way round!

When I was at school we had to campaign for girls to be allowed to wear trousers at all. And shorts instead of those silly little gym skirts and gym knickers! So this is just the culmination of that campaigning really!