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Political letter from my gp telling who to vote for

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FluffyJellyCat · 01/07/2024 17:11

Is this even allowed? The gp isn't wrong in what he is saying. But how did he get my personal data to write to me? It's a proper letter addressed to me at my address. Could he access my data for a local election?

Conflict of interest? Gdpr? I'm not going to complain because I have enought going on in my life. But surely this isn't allowed?

What next? The schools head telling me who to vote for?

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AdoraBell · 01/07/2024 18:06

I would complain about this and point out that you go to the GP for medical advise rather than political advise.

rainbowunicorn · 01/07/2024 18:09

RubySloth · 01/07/2024 18:02

Terrible, I thought I had a letter from a reform candidate telling me to vote Tory instead of them (not that they were an option) and in the small print says promotion by the Tory candidate. I would normally vote Tory but not this time after such a misleading letter.

Makes me want to vote the opposite way when people keep telling you, who to vote. Why don't people mind their own business

Is that not the point though? All candidates will be telling people who to vote and there will be people backing them that will be doing the same. Your last paragraph makes you look a bit daft. Are you very young and new to voting or something?

AquaLeader · 01/07/2024 18:09

Use of the electoral register:

  1. Registered political parties, candidates and campaigners are entitled to receive copies of the full electoral register which includes eligible voters’ names and addresses.
  2. They are also entitled to access the “marked register”, which enables identification of individuals who have voted in previous elections and referendums, but not how they have voted.
  3. Access to this information is important for promoting political participation. Its use can be compatible with data protection law, which must still be complied with.

Much political campaigning makes use of the names and addresses held on the electoral register. Access to this information is important. It helps you to convey your messages to voters - furthering political debate and promoting democratic participation.

https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/direct-marketing-and-privacy-and-electronic-communications/guidance-for-the-use-of-personal-data-in-political-campaigning-1/use-of-the-electoral-register/#canweuse1

Use of the electoral register

https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/direct-marketing-and-privacy-and-electronic-communications/guidance-for-the-use-of-personal-data-in-political-campaigning-1/use-of-the-electoral-register#canweuse1

fliptopbin · 01/07/2024 18:11

RubySloth · 01/07/2024 18:02

Terrible, I thought I had a letter from a reform candidate telling me to vote Tory instead of them (not that they were an option) and in the small print says promotion by the Tory candidate. I would normally vote Tory but not this time after such a misleading letter.

Makes me want to vote the opposite way when people keep telling you, who to vote. Why don't people mind their own business

Then there was a Tory candidate who printed their publicity material using red instead of blue, and didn't name the party at all, to make people think he was Labour!

Joleyne · 01/07/2024 18:11

Several years ago, my doctor visited his patients to ask us to vote for him - he was standing as the Conservative candidate.

Very few of us did, but we received him with courtesy, nevertheless.
Doctors are human beings with their own political views.

Opinion polls are less democratic than allowing a doctor to endorse a candidate.

KaraSeat · 01/07/2024 18:12

CaptainMyCaptain · 01/07/2024 17:25

It's not unreasonable for a Health care provider or a school to ask people to consider voting for the party most likely to fund them properly. Nobody will know who you actually vote for.

This.

It is understandable really. The NHS and education has been poorly funded for too long. Head teachers and doctors are telling us that.

It's time to believe it.

Mnetcurious · 01/07/2024 18:12

What next? The schools head telling me who to vote for?
The headteacher at our school did actually email parents at the time of the last GE. Whilst they didn’t specifically ask parents to vote for a certain party, they did outline all the ways that schools are struggling and asked parents to bear this in mind when they vote.
Personally I think it’s a good thing that people on the frontline of dealing with chronic underfunding in health and education are trying to make the public aware of just how big a problem it is.

Yalta · 01/07/2024 18:13

littlegrebe · 01/07/2024 18:01

I'm sorry, this is a terrible take. Of course medical professionals are allowed to express their political views in public. Politics isn't a dirty word, it's how we participate in our society. We have a secret ballot so we have no need whatsoever to vote how anyone tells us to whatever perceived power they have.

Actually I think that the BMJ would say no they have to be very careful in expressing their political views but this isn’t what is happening

A GP is actively instructing a patient who to vote for

rumnraisins · 01/07/2024 18:14

FluffyJellyCat · 01/07/2024 17:11

Is this even allowed? The gp isn't wrong in what he is saying. But how did he get my personal data to write to me? It's a proper letter addressed to me at my address. Could he access my data for a local election?

Conflict of interest? Gdpr? I'm not going to complain because I have enought going on in my life. But surely this isn't allowed?

What next? The schools head telling me who to vote for?

I’d be complaining to the BMA and the ICO. They can only process your data for medical reasons, not any other. I don’t care who they told you to vote for, it’s just so wrong on so many levels.

Quimjelly · 01/07/2024 18:14

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Yalta · 01/07/2024 18:15

KaraSeat · 01/07/2024 18:12

This.

It is understandable really. The NHS and education has been poorly funded for too long. Head teachers and doctors are telling us that.

It's time to believe it.

Given the waste I have seen in the NHS I think no amount of money would save it

What ever you gave it would just be used to invent more ways to waste it

babadumm · 01/07/2024 18:16

BeaRF75 · 01/07/2024 17:46

That is outrageous. I would expect any medical professional to be publicly impartial. (Obviously they can vote for who they like in the actual secret ballot).

RCGP, BMA, RCS England host loads of Q&As with candidates, issue statements about each party's manifestos, are pretty vocal about who they back (based on member votes and surveys), issue advocacy guides for their members (ie GPs) to campaign and reach out, etc. Essentially the industry has / these bodies have a majority consensus on what would be best for the NHS.

Fair enough IMO. Even civil servants are allowed to campaign for parties – only those in vv high ranking (not mid or even high ranking) policy roles tend to be "political restricted".

Fizbosshoes · 01/07/2024 18:17

My 17 year old DD has had several letters addressed to her, from one of our local candidates, she's not even old enough to vote!

Quercus30 · 01/07/2024 18:17

murasaki · 01/07/2024 17:28

Aside from anything, I'd feel uncomfortable knowing my gp's politics. I want treatment to be neutral.

What does neutral and non neutral treatment look like? 🤔

OpizpuHeuvHiyo · 01/07/2024 18:17

I think you should complain.

Vulnerable patients whose political leanings are in a different direction could feel alienated from their healthcare provider and less likely to seek medical aid when needed. That's a problem in my view.

Cyclingmummy1 · 01/07/2024 18:17

What next? The schools head telling me who to vote for?

Independent schools are telling parents the consequences of voting a certain way. Not sure what the problem is.

SilverGlitterBaubles · 01/07/2024 18:17

Schools or doctors outlining issues that people should consider when voting is one thing, even encouraging them to vote is great but endorsing a particular party is a step too far IMO.

babadumm · 01/07/2024 18:18

Yalta · 01/07/2024 18:13

Actually I think that the BMJ would say no they have to be very careful in expressing their political views but this isn’t what is happening

A GP is actively instructing a patient who to vote for

The BMJ are a medical journal and not what you're thinking of likely, but anyway there are plenty of strongly worded articles in the BMJ about the upcoming election and various parties' manifestos!

Quimjelly · 01/07/2024 18:18

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RampantKrampus · 01/07/2024 18:19

As a medical professional I find this very uncomfortable. It’s one thing to campaign for a political party on the weekends, be seen in public speaking out about issues etc. but approaching patients as individuals (I appreciate that this was likely done through the party using the ‘correct channels’ rather than using patient details) could be considered coercion.

I’m pretty sure my employing trust have rules about this. I feel like a rebel just co-ordinating my socks and a ribbon in my hair with my vote 😂

Zotter · 01/07/2024 18:20

FluffyJellyCat · 01/07/2024 17:30

My private dentist is clearly a capitalist, I'd love to know who he votes for!

None of the 3 main parties are anti capitalist. Cons will do the least to soften some of the negative effects. There are positive effects of capitalism too of course.

Mnetcurious · 01/07/2024 18:21

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Yes, an academy.

ellenfan · 01/07/2024 18:22

KreedKafer · 01/07/2024 17:25

Is it possible that the letter actually went out via the local party (who will have your details from the electoral roll) and the GP is a party member/supporter who just agreed to put his name to it?

Almost certainly this - which is fine. Look at the leaflet/letter for an imprint!

The following is very useful! https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/political-registration-and-regulation/imprints

fliptopbin · 01/07/2024 18:24

BeaRF75 · 01/07/2024 17:46

That is outrageous. I would expect any medical professional to be publicly impartial. (Obviously they can vote for who they like in the actual secret ballot).

Hang on, are you saying that no public facing healthcare staff (I am guessing you think the dame about teachers as well?)should be able to run for public office?

Footle · 01/07/2024 18:24

I'm awfully old but still can't quite see myself shuffling off to the polling station muttering 'now who was it that nice doctor said I have to vote for? I expect it was dear old Maggie T'