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To remind ourselves of what the Tories have done since 2010...

148 replies

Dabralor · 30/06/2024 22:26

...it seems like there are lots of conservative voices bots currently starting threads about how terrifying a labour govt will be.

In the interest of balance, I thought it would be useful to have a list of terrifying things the Tories have already done.

I'll start thus:

Brexit (we aren't supposed to think of this as an election issue but it's shite so I will)

Partygate

The COVID ppe scandal

... Would anyone like to add any more?

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Swiftea · 01/07/2024 06:44

User2460177 · 01/07/2024 00:37

Why do you think that? Nothing they’ve done so far would indicate they are any better.

I think there is good and bad in both parties. The tories are definitely ahead on women’s rights tho which is important to me

So the Brexit chaos which destroyed the future prosperity of the country means nothing?

Five Prime Ministers and Seven Chancellors since 2016?

A VIP hotline which gave privileged access to unlimited govt funds for dodgy PPE to Tory donors?

Liz Truss?

They do not deserve anyone’s vice

Westfacing · 01/07/2024 06:50

10 education secretaries
10 environment secretaries
16 housing ministers
7 defence secretaries

And three prime ministers in six weeks

Says it all really - how could any good come from all that chaos

ll09sm · 01/07/2024 06:52

Let’s go a little further back. Let’s remind ourselves how Labour and Tories have wrecked this country since 2007 collectively with groupthink.

Labour
Tax credits and fixing low wages, then opening the borders to uncontrolled immigration to wreck the country’s productivity and suppress wages. Low wages subsidized by the taxpayer while employers had no incentive to invest in automation. Setting the foundation for this country’s economic decline.

Opening the doors to uncontrolled immigration, that eventually led to Brexit

An illegal war and war crimes in Iraq. Destabilizing the Middle East to this day, more than it already was. Does anyone know if anyone found the WMDs?

Watching the financial crash coming since 2005 and doing absolutely nothing about it

Selling off sovereign gold at rock bottom prices to make the country poorer forever

NHS PFI deals which were just as scandalous as sub prime mortgages and has crippled the NHS since then. Corruption.

Tories
The debacle in Libya

The mess made with Brexit

Highest ever immigration since then

Covid corruption to siphon public money to give their cronies

Next to no economic growth

The ness made of HS2. Corruption.

Tories and Labour have conspired to destroy the country. Conspired in the sense that they are all a bunch of morons and donkeys and took sometimes the easy and often the corrupt option to benefit their cronies, rather than grow our country.

ll09sm · 01/07/2024 06:58

ll09sm · 01/07/2024 06:52

Let’s go a little further back. Let’s remind ourselves how Labour and Tories have wrecked this country since 2007 collectively with groupthink.

Labour
Tax credits and fixing low wages, then opening the borders to uncontrolled immigration to wreck the country’s productivity and suppress wages. Low wages subsidized by the taxpayer while employers had no incentive to invest in automation. Setting the foundation for this country’s economic decline.

Opening the doors to uncontrolled immigration, that eventually led to Brexit

An illegal war and war crimes in Iraq. Destabilizing the Middle East to this day, more than it already was. Does anyone know if anyone found the WMDs?

Watching the financial crash coming since 2005 and doing absolutely nothing about it

Selling off sovereign gold at rock bottom prices to make the country poorer forever

NHS PFI deals which were just as scandalous as sub prime mortgages and has crippled the NHS since then. Corruption.

Tories
The debacle in Libya

The mess made with Brexit

Highest ever immigration since then

Covid corruption to siphon public money to give their cronies

Next to no economic growth

The ness made of HS2. Corruption.

Tories and Labour have conspired to destroy the country. Conspired in the sense that they are all a bunch of morons and donkeys and took sometimes the easy and often the corrupt option to benefit their cronies, rather than grow our country.

Correction 1997

Moonmelodies · 01/07/2024 07:05

Let's not forget that pandemic we had under the Tories.

Jonisaysitbest · 01/07/2024 07:07

We can keep looking back & finding ways in which Labour are as bad as the Tories but the problem is right here, right now. And things are in a mess.

The only way to have a real change is to elect a new party to power. We are basically now a two party country so the only way to effect that change is to vote Labour & get the Tories out.

I wish the Lib Dems were more of a force but they seem to have been silent for years until this round of campaigning. And Ed Davey just seems to spend his time engaging in photo shoot stunts.

Chartreux · 01/07/2024 07:12

Moonmelodies · 01/07/2024 07:05

Let's not forget that pandemic we had under the Tories.

And let's not forget that that affected the rest of the world and how badly the Tories mismanaged it in comparison with other countries.

Chartreux · 01/07/2024 07:16

The tories are definitely ahead on women’s rights tho which is important to me

You are joking, aren't you? Relaxed the GRA, took away Sure Start, hopeless response to rape and violence against women, wanting to take us out of the EHCR and its protection for women's rights; it's perfectly clear that if they got back into power they would lurch right and remove maternity rights, rights to termination, and dilute other equality rights.

Paul2023 · 01/07/2024 07:49

Yeah I remember that in the 90s you could get a doctors appointment, when John Major was PM before Labour.
Things weren’t as bad as this even with the old Tory government in charge.

Boomer55 · 01/07/2024 07:53

Allowing social care to virtually collapse, thereby making the NHS even worse than it might have been.🙄

Lack of affordable housing - for rent or buy.

Errors · 01/07/2024 07:56

Balance? This site seems overwhelming pro Labour to me.
Im not comfortable with any party gaining the size of the vote that Labour will likely gain. They’ll have almost no opposition and will hold too much power IMO.

EasternStandard · 01/07/2024 07:57

ZenNudist · 01/07/2024 00:04

@iam theblacksheep

are you really so stupid as to blame the global financial crisis of 2008 on Labour? Labour's problem last time was holding on to power for so long the bad times rolled again in terms of the economic cycle, and they got the blame. The Tories did a good job of blaming their plans to slash and burn the state on to Labour profligacy.

The Tories managed to cause the bad times this time around. Though I suppose there's a chance you are one of the last remaining people in Britain still in denial about how detrimental Brexit has been for our economy and the lack of money we now have for public services.

To answer the OP the Tories also did for the lib dems, steam rollering every good idea the lib dems brought to coalition so it didn't work, whilst blaming them for problems.

The pp have a point. We had high risk exposure due to money from debt. Blair used that growing FS which was always risky due to the house of cards situation it depended on

Basically risk and spending were linked and it was ok until the big crash, which the U.K. got hit hard with due to FS dependency

Swiftea · 01/07/2024 08:15

Replaced doctors with unqualified Physician Associates, so that you think you’ve seen a GP but haven’t.

user411966691966 · 01/07/2024 08:18

Balance? This site seems overwhelming pro Labour to me.

I agree. Look at what is happening in France at the moment and the Far Left out on the streets desperate to put a stop to democracy.

In this country we are not as militant, but the left do shout loudest even on Mumsnet and it seems like you can be a lone voice at times, but you are not.

The country will get a Labour government. Everything has to change. Our young people who have not experienced socialism, need to live through a term to see what Labour can do.

But they will have their issues once the unions take hold because they will rise up with Labour in charge. Women's rights will turn into a nasty fight once they allow men easy access to a gender change certificate. Europe is teetering on an edge economically and politically. Trump is likely to be re-elected. The war with Putin may escalate, same as the situation in the Middle East. China/Taiwan could flare up. Throw in another pandemic (although I doubt they will face this) let's see how Labour cope.

Somerandomerontheinternet · 01/07/2024 08:27

Paul2023 · 01/07/2024 07:49

Yeah I remember that in the 90s you could get a doctors appointment, when John Major was PM before Labour.
Things weren’t as bad as this even with the old Tory government in charge.

Edited

This version of the Tories are not like what came before. They purged principled MPs so they could get Brexit legislation through the Commons.

Im not a natural Tory voter but I can see that John Major and William Hague even David Cameron to an extent are statesman with something to offer the country (even where I don’t agree with their policy views on the way to do that). Liz Truss, Boris Johnson, Rishi Sunak are lightweights with no vision, leadership, strategy or the moral values to put the interests of the country above their own benefit or egos.

Kendodd · 01/07/2024 08:43

Errors · 01/07/2024 07:56

Balance? This site seems overwhelming pro Labour to me.
Im not comfortable with any party gaining the size of the vote that Labour will likely gain. They’ll have almost no opposition and will hold too much power IMO.

I wonder if this is partly to do with age? In that the older you are, the more likely you are to vote Tory, also, the less likely you are to be active on the Internet? So while MN might appear to be pro Labour or (not sure I agree) or anti brexit (pro reality) it's actually politically balanced taking into account user age.

MammaMiaPizzeria · 01/07/2024 08:48

I haven't read all the other posts, but the one that pissed me off was the closing of sure start centres. They were such an important asset to so many areas, and then they were just gone. We still live near one (although it's not called sure start anymore) and even the ones that do exist are useless nowadays. No baby or toddler groups. No maternity groups. Whereas when I was pregnant quite a few years ago I went to Sure start centre while pregnant for a weekly exercise class! And then did baby massage at one as well. They really were great.

Wednesday6 · 01/07/2024 09:00

For international couples they introduced a scheme where UK partner needs to earn to be able to bring the spouse into the country (I believe it's £32000 now). That means that elderly on a pension living abroad with their foreign spouses cannot return back home. Or stay at home wives/mums cannot return back home even if their foreign husband land a job here first to support the family. Or anyone on a lower salary cannot marry a foreigner abroad

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 01/07/2024 09:17

Rape conviction rate fell from 6.5% in 2009 to under 2% in 2022.

But yeah, Tories are the best party to protect women. Sure.

BrigadierEtienneGerard · 01/07/2024 09:19

Brexit. Dwarfs everything else.

Labour are equally as guilty (thanks Jeremy) which is why I'm voting Lib-Dem.

OrwellianTimes · 01/07/2024 09:25

Paul2023 · 30/06/2024 23:31

I have to question the point on sewage water. I live near the sea and I’m pretty sure a sewage overflow pipe was installed in the early 2000s , when Labour was in power.

The point about the Tories sending sewage into the sea well I’m afraid I think this has been going on for many years.

It’s come to light and increased massively during Tory rule and the government has done nothing about it. A couple tiny fines here and there, but no pressure put on the water companies and no legislation introduced.

randomchap · 01/07/2024 09:51

Massively damaged the legal system, removing legal aid for many. Huge delays for trials. No room in prisons so some prisoners released early

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 01/07/2024 12:29

https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2022/feb/02/levelling-up-funding-inequality-exposed-by-guardian-research - Funnelling money to already rich areas rather than poor areas.

Destruction of social care, where adults with disabilities but without continence issues are expected to wear nappies rather than be provided with support to go to the toilet - this can actually lead to issues with incontinence but why would the government care about that?

The increase in the number of homeless people.

The massive increase in foodbanks.

Cuts to welfare rights services.

The shocking number of people who get turned down for DLA(children)/PIP but get it on appeal. They clearly just hope people will give up and go away.

Levelling-up: some wealthy areas of England to see 10 times more funding than poorest

Exclusive: per-head funding inequality exposed by Guardian research into Boris Johnson’s levelling-up agenda

https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2022/feb/02/levelling-up-funding-inequality-exposed-by-guardian-research

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