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Beating the Heat: Why Can't New Builds Have Air Con?

118 replies

TeaTimeMum · 27/06/2024 14:42

I'm not sure what it's like at your end, but it's absolutely hot and humid over here and everything just feels harder—neither staying in nor popping out offers any relief. Whether it’s doing the housework, driving, or even just nipping out for some shopping, the heat just makes it all the more dreadful. And yes, we do moan about the weather a fair bit, but this heat is simply too much. I’ve been wondering, why don’t new builds come with air conditioning as standard? Some might argue that we only have a week or two of this scorching weather in the UK, but these days, air con units can heat as well. So why not fit these versatile systems? We could use it to keep cool in the summer and cozy in the winter.

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Headingtowardsdivorce · 27/06/2024 16:54

I've got low ceilings and ceiling fans, they're great!

HiddenBooks · 27/06/2024 17:01

I have a very weird house as it costs a lot to keep in warm in winter, but in the summer it retains heat like a bugger!

We have 9 air conditioning units in my office that provide both heat and air con. Last year our electric bill was £9,500, so £88 per month, per unit. I know I cook at home, but that's a darn sight cheaper than my combined gas and electric bill at home and they'd have been on longer in the office too!

Caspianberg · 27/06/2024 17:02

@voiceofastar - no I know the uk usually builds flats and houses not like this. I’m just saying the solution is not air con in new builds, it’s build new builds better with low cost ways of sustainably keeping heat out.

Janehasamane · 27/06/2024 17:08

Cooper77 · 27/06/2024 15:38

This country really is awful in the heat. American friends (understandably) laugh at me when I complain about 80 degrees – after all, it hit 100 in Chicago. But what they don't realise is that our houses (especially the disgusting new builds) are tiny. Houses in Texas and Australia are generally bigger and airier. The heat has room to circulate. And not only are the houses small, they're also jammed on top of one another. I'm never more conscious of what a hellishly overcrowded place the UK is than during a heatwave.

Well we are a tiny island compared to a continent…

WhichEllie · 27/06/2024 17:19

I’m a big fan of AC since moving to the US, and it’s much cheaper and more energy efficient than heating. My summer bills are not bad at all compared to the winter, and I live in a region that gets both much hotter and much colder than the UK.

Squidlette · 27/06/2024 17:26

Come and live in my 70s detached. Bloody freezing most of the year but lovely and cool in the few hot days we have. No air con needed.

EmeraldRoulette · 27/06/2024 17:28

shearwater2 · 27/06/2024 16:09

Aircon in homes would be pretty disastrous for sustainability, and it is warm for what, two weeks a year? We're not Spain. Who don't necessarily need aircon in homes either as they build traditionally with thick walls keeping the sun out.

New build flats are usually warm all year round though, so for me, May to November was very hot in an average summer. Men walk in and wonder if they're going through the change.

From what I read, even my previous place wasn't as bad as most new builds.

Av winter temp in previous new build, with no heating on, was 22.

bridgetreilly · 27/06/2024 17:31

Because aircon is terrible for the environment.

bridgetreilly · 27/06/2024 17:33

WhichEllie · 27/06/2024 17:19

I’m a big fan of AC since moving to the US, and it’s much cheaper and more energy efficient than heating. My summer bills are not bad at all compared to the winter, and I live in a region that gets both much hotter and much colder than the UK.

AC was one of my least favourite things about the US. In summer, buildings would be so cold you needed a jumper, while in winter it would be hot enough for just a t-shirt. And no one else seemed to think this was at all problematic.

BitsNBibs40s · 27/06/2024 17:35

I live in a South facing new build and I bought Meaco air con from John Lewis. The tube goes out a window and I bought a window kit to seal the window. It was on for about four hours today and I would not be without it when working from home.

I was thinking today gosh when I come to sell My flat I must not do it in summer as no one will buy it.

NewMoonontuesday · 27/06/2024 17:37

In the north east England it’s only hot for about two weeks maximum. Not worth the expensive.
As a country it’s going to rain more but slightly warmer. So probably a dehumidifier would be better.

BitsNBibs40s · 27/06/2024 17:38

I also have a black out blind in the bedroom, it's down 100% of the time now.

On the balcony I bought a large parasol in a half moon shape. It does nothing to shade the balcony, it more stops the sun from getting into the lounge.

I also have a turbo floor fan and a small desk fan. Think I've pretty much covered it over time!

Mustreadabook · 27/06/2024 18:32

DexaVooveQhodu · 27/06/2024 15:05

We had ceiling fans in a previous property and I wouldn't want them again. They are obtrusive on the eye and collect dust in the 49 weeks of the year they aren't used.

The building standards for new-builds are designed to future-proof housing stock for a low-carbon economy so shouldn't include wasteful energy burning like this. They should be designed to promote keeping cool in summer without burning extra electricity. However, an air source heat pump (which I think all new builds are supposed to be built with from 2025) is essentially an air con unit which is pointed to cool down the outside world and produce hot water as a byproduct. It would be good if one was designed that could be flipped around and cool inside the house if needed.

Air source heat pumps can cool as well as heat as long as you get the right one, they don't all do it.

AyeRobot · 27/06/2024 18:43

New Builds that fall under Part O 2021 (2022 in Wales) do have to consider overheating but Aircon is the last item to be allowed after passive measures (glazing, shading, extra mechanical ventilation such as continuously running fans that are low energy to remove hot air) have been considered. It's a big deal now in the building regs world.

Also, new builds under Part L 2021 (2022 in Wales) have to have renewables, either solar panels or air source heat pumps. There's a consultation out at the moment for the next regs change which would be a massive jump in carbon emissions reduction (and possibly bills, depending on the option settled on) but who knows what the next government will actually do.

Simonjt · 27/06/2024 18:50

I lived in a flat with central air rather than central heating, central air is very very expensive to run, in winter we would easily spend an additional £300 a month on electricity, in the summer using it to cool would cost a similar amount. Servicing was expensive, they’re not good systems for allergies the actual unit is very large too, much larger than a boiler or a hot water tank.

TheGoogleMum · 27/06/2024 18:52

YANBU our 7 yr old house becomes a sauna in a heatwave. Even though it cooled down outside today upstairs rooms in our house were still 29 degrees! We want air con but it's so expensive! Portable air conditioners are too big for our small new build rooms with no storage...

EmeraldRoulette · 27/06/2024 18:57

Simonjt · 27/06/2024 18:50

I lived in a flat with central air rather than central heating, central air is very very expensive to run, in winter we would easily spend an additional £300 a month on electricity, in the summer using it to cool would cost a similar amount. Servicing was expensive, they’re not good systems for allergies the actual unit is very large too, much larger than a boiler or a hot water tank.

That sounds a bit like my sister's place. But that's very economical. She refers to it as air cooling or air heating. Is that the same as central air?

EmeraldRoulette · 27/06/2024 18:59

TheGoogleMum · 27/06/2024 18:52

YANBU our 7 yr old house becomes a sauna in a heatwave. Even though it cooled down outside today upstairs rooms in our house were still 29 degrees! We want air con but it's so expensive! Portable air conditioners are too big for our small new build rooms with no storage...

My place is tiny. You can't have the unit plugged in without losing a chunk of space sadly. But it works well, is cheap to run. Noisy though.

Simonjt · 27/06/2024 19:05

EmeraldRoulette · 27/06/2024 18:57

That sounds a bit like my sister's place. But that's very economical. She refers to it as air cooling or air heating. Is that the same as central air?

Our was air conditioning rather than air cooling, I think the difference is new air v recycled air.

TimeGoesBySoSlowlyForThoseWhoWait · 27/06/2024 19:08

We have aircon. Bollocks to saying it’ll only be used for 2weeks a year. It gets used maybe for 2 months on and off. All the posts saying go and get a coffee and cake to sit in the shops aircon, i pay less than that for mine on all day at home. Medically needed and worth every penny.

TimeGoesBySoSlowlyForThoseWhoWait · 27/06/2024 19:10

NewMoonontuesday · 27/06/2024 17:37

In the north east England it’s only hot for about two weeks maximum. Not worth the expensive.
As a country it’s going to rain more but slightly warmer. So probably a dehumidifier would be better.

We have an aircon unit for the summer and a dehumidifier for the winter. Although the aircon does dehumidifier as well

Cornflakelover · 27/06/2024 19:11

I have ceiling fans in the living rooms and bedrooms always have done and they are fab

I change them every few years to a different design / style but it’s relatively cheap and they are easy to fit

JudgeJ · 27/06/2024 19:11

iamtheblcksheep · 27/06/2024 14:56

Because house builders are money grabbing bastards. Taylor Wimpey as an example made a £300 million profit last year.

Stop buying new houses and they’ll have to change their ways

That Party Political statement apart, for the number of days we have 'hot' weather in the UK it isn't economical to install air con in houses, it's possible for a couple of hundred pounds to buy portable units. I don't even use the air con in my car, windows open for a reason.

WitchyBits · 27/06/2024 19:12

Shutters and a ceiling fan work a treat. When my sister lived in Spain as a poor student she couldn't afford air con and just kept the roller shutters drawn from 6am until 6 pm and that worked a treat as she was out of the house then. Then open the shutters and windows when she got home. At the when's she just keep the shutters closed that needed to closed.

Air con is expensive to run. , typically 2-6kw an hour per room depending on size.

TeaTimeMum · 27/06/2024 22:02

I’ve noticed from reading through the comments that people who have air conditioning are extremely happy with their decision. On the other hand, those without air conditioning often express a negative outlook based solely on perception, rather than experience.Honestly, I haven’t seen anyone in this post who has air conditioning say they regret it. Looks like a bit of a ‘sour grapes’ situation to me

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