To apply for a blue badge for ds9

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Is he even eligible??
He is diagnosed autistic and having his adhd assessment next month. He can walk fine. No mobility issues. The problem is his ability to remain focused, he has nearly got run over a couple of times because he forgets to look before crossing the road, we have to be his eyes, no matter how many times we have taught him to stop look and listen it just doesn't sink in!!
He runs around, Randomly falls over because he's tripped up something when running around, I've had to grab him so many times or shout STOP, he's just basically in his own little world and I just know one day I'm going to slip, be distracted by the two babies and somethings going to happen to him in the road. I think he should be able to have a blue badge, anything to keep him away from the cars basically. He gets dla but low rate mobility, does that mean he isn't eligible?
Aibu to just apply ?

I am autistic myself and I have noticed that virtually every child with difficult behaviour

And I'm Cindy fucking Crawford 🙄

If you actually are autistic you'd know there's a range of presentations - it's why they call it a spectrum.

I was the "good" kid at school and beyond but I've struggled massively my whole life without apparent reason.

Son gets diagnosed ASD and suddenly it's like my own life shifts into focus.

After 38 years I then get a diagnosis.

The same could be said for adult women with a bit of social anxiety.

(I'm being facetious. Presumably as an autistic person yourself you know how debilitating it can be. And how multiple traits if autism can look like "naughtiness" on the surface. And presumably as an autistic person you understand that its not easy to get an autism diagnosis and it can take years. And it's not a single person that decides if a child meets the diagnostic criteria for an autism diagnosis, it's a panel of qualified, experienced professionals looking at often tears worth of evidence. And that autistic adults these days arent kept at home or in institutions. Instead they are allowed to integrate within their local community and, shock horror, breed more autistic children).

Only on the moving around part. I still had to prove that I needed a BB

(I seem to remember this is just England and in Wales and Scotland 12 points on either section is an automatic BB)

Mobility is split two sections “making and planning a journey” and “moving around” . My son gets full points for making and planning a journey so gets enhanced rate but no points for moving around so isn’t eligible for the badges automatically.

I have had dealing with several councils and if you get 10 points for making and planning a journey you are entitled….for moving around its 8 points ….don’t need points in both

You can use both, whichever is more convenient for yourself. As long as you display your BB in a disabled space, you don't need to explain yourself.

Why would you be applying for one, if you did not need it?

@Kitkat1523 in England, not everyone on enhanced PIP is automatically eligible for a blue badge.

In England, someone who receives 12 points on the planning and following a journey is entitled to enhanced PIP but not automatically eligible for a blue badge.

In England, to be automatically eligible for a blue badge because of a PIP award, you need 8 or more points on the moving around activity &/or 10 points exactly under descriptor E on the planning and following a journey activity.

And, in England, someone who gets 10 points on the planning and following a journey under descriptor D is not automatically eligible for a blue badge either.

We wouldn't. He gets 12 points for making and planning a journey. Because as an adult he is entirely reliant on being taken places, and left to his own devices spends his life in his bed in his bedroom, which is the extent of his "safe space".

I am just a bit shocked that apparently he would be "entitled' to a blue badge even though he is perfectly able bodied and if I can get him out of the house it doesn't matter where I park. I am surprised it's automatic because there will be quite a few able bodied people getting enhanced pip for mental ill health.

If you are in England or NI then it isn’t automatic.

You could apply for him and be assessed, but if DS doesn’t need a blue badge then he wouldn’t be given one. It may not matter where you park, but for others it does matter even if they don’t have a physical disability.

I am just a bit shocked that apparently he would be "entitled' to a blue badge even though he is perfectly able bodied and if I can get him out of the house it doesn't matter where I park. I am surprised it's automatic because there will be quite a few able bodied people getting enhanced pip for mental ill health.

I see@Toasticles . Obviously the system is not perfect, but if people in this position do not need to apply for a BB, then they would hopefully not choose to do so, unless needed.

Not in my council or the one we were in before and not according to the government website. You are only automatically entitled with 8 points in the “moving around” part of the mobility component of pip.

You know I’ve just replied but then went back and read the government website again. I 100% definitely was told that he didn’t qualify automatically, I have the emails but the government website seems to say he should automatically qualify . So confused if this has changed in recent years or if our council are wrong 🤔

I was told that it wasn’t automatic abd have applied under the discretionary route the last 2 times. My son has enhanced rate mobility and full points in the “making and planning a journey” l. Having just looked at the government website it appears to have changed. Under the People who automatically get a blue cadge heading it says -

1. “you receive the mobility component of PIP and have obtained 10 points specifically for descriptor E under the ‘planning and following journeys’ activity, on the grounds that you are unable to undertake any journey because it would cause you overwhelming psychological distress”

I’m not sure why you have quoted me, because this is exactly what I have posted in other posts? In, England, someone awarded 12 points under planning and following a journey isn’t automatically eligible for a blue badge.

As I have posted, in England, to be automatically eligible for a blue badge because of a PIP award, you need 8 or more points on the moving around activity &/or 10 points exactly under descriptor E on the planning and following a journey activity. 12 points (and thus enhanced mobility PIP) under the planning and following a journey does not automatically mean someone is eligible for a blue badge.

I’m Confused to be honest. My son has 12 points on the “making and planning a journey” and 0 on “moving around” and doesn’t qualify automatically but if he had 10 points he would?

If DS had 10 points exactly under descriptor E on the planning and following a journey activity then he would automatically be eligible for a blue badge.

If DS had 10 points under descriptor D on the planning and following a journey activity then he would not automatically be eligible for a blue badge.

With 12 points on the planning and following a journey activity he is not automatically eligible for a blue badge.

That is the case in England. The rules are different in different home nations.

Been like this in our council for at least 5 years that I know of

Is it any wonder that some people require specialist help, i.e. CAB, when it comes to understanding, not just how to fill in the forms, but also getting access to other forms of help, such as BB, or CA.

Wouldn’t this apply to all parents of kids under 5? Can’t you use the parent and child spaces or would that not work?

Are you in England? Because who is automatically eligible for a blue badge in England is the same in every council. And being in receipt of enhanced PIP does not always automatically entitle someone to a blue badge. You can see the eligibility criteria for those who are automatically eligible on the government website here.

No, because not every carpark has P&C spaces but they do have BB spaces.

Ok. Thank you. I’ll go back and read descriptor E on his award. 😂. Funny thing is I jump through hoops to get it each time trying to find “evidence” and this time it’s been sat in the car for 3 years and I’ve never used it because I rarely drive him anywhere!