AIBU to “steal” this?

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Hello everyone I just want your opinions on this as today I’ve been in a heated argument with my friend as to wether I am unreasonable or not.

I am off work on maternity leave so the funds are tight at minute. There is a man who lives near me I believe he is drug user, he sells half price stuff and also takes orders on what you want for half price. He knocks on my house about 1 or 2 times a week with a bag of half price goods. I always buy washing detergent and softeners from him because you can get a whole weeks laundry of the nice brands for around £10. Money is tight as I have just had a baby and I have 2 other children with my husband also. i also sometimes get baby milk formula from him if I’m running low because it’s cheap.

I feel like this is not wrong because if I didn’t buy it other people would. Even if no one bought it he would steal it anyway in hopes someone would buy it eventually.

Today my friend was at my house when he came so I offered her to have a look what he had. She immediately asked him where he got this stuff from and he replied “shop”. She didn’t say much after but when I finished buying my items she started shouting about how I’m funding his drugs addiction and I shouldn’t support it because I am now stealing too. I told her to relax it’s fine it’s only a couple of items. She didn’t say much and finished her coffee and left quick.

So am I morally wrong for this? Or would you do the same?

How do you know a shop assistant has been beaten up or abused?

Someone mentioned him possibly stealing from big supermarket chains so ‘it’s ok’ but it’s more likely being stolen from your smaller local stores…

This! Like wow I would not want these types of people knocking on my door and I doubt you have cctv/ ring cameras

It’s wrong you are encouraging his behaviour and this means most people have to pay more for their shopping plus you are encouraging him to use drugs what you are doing is wrong no excuses

I'm not going to judge you

Well he's obviously stealing from the shop & then selling you stolen goods to fund his drug habit.

Perhaps you should cut out the middle man & steal from the shop yourself.

I certainly wouldn't buy from him. Theft costs everyone else & is a very selfish thing to do. Funding his drug habit is a bad thing to do too.

I'd like new Ferrari, should I steal one because I can't afford it?

Cannot believe you buy stolen goods from a drug dealer — and moreover buying baby formula from them. Why do you make babies if you don’t have a decent way of providing for them?

I suppose we have to be in this lady's position to judge if it's reasonable or unreasonable.

It's easy to say we would or wouldn't do something if an opportunity, or certain circumstances do not arise for us. I would probably do things I wouldn't think of doing if I was struggling to a certain degree.

So it might not really be about funding someone's drug habit, but trying to survive somehow, especially if you have a family to support. I would say for many in this particular situation, it can be considered reasonable enough.

Breastfeeding isn't totally free...I remember being very hungry and eating more while I was breastfeeding. I still think it's preferable to formula if you can manage it. It might be a bit late now depending how old your baby is. La leche league gives breastfeeding support I think.

So you've had a 3rd child that you basically can't afford and have to get a junkie to steal for you to be able to manage your household.

Your friend is absolutely correct. And thankfully has morals. Don't be surprised if she is going to cool your friendship. I would.
I can't believe you weren't ashamed to put this post up.

I personally wouldn’t engage with a drug addict and would definitely not encourage them to be knocking on my door! I agree with others who’ve said that it’s just as bad as if you’d gone on the rob at tesco yourself. But then, money is tight. Money is tight for my family too! But I think I’d rather use a food bank or buy the basics than get goods off this guy.

Hate to tell you it's handling stolen goods. There was an old woman on tiktok who had been buying from a man at the door cheaply for stuff like this. Police had been watching the seller and because she'd purchased items from him a number of times and was caught on camera she was charged with handling stolen goods. She was insistent she didn't know where he'd got them from but knew.he had issues. Didn't stand in court she was found guilty. Awaiting sentencing.

Shoplifting is one of those things I really don't care about. You got a bargain. Well done for making sure your baby had milk. Wish someone would knock on my door like that.

The people that steal from us are not the ones that go out and sell it, generally, some of them do but that's less common.

They steal from us, they take it somewhere, they get money or drugs, then other people sell it. Those ones don't keep the money. It's part of organised crime and exploitation like everything else around the homeless and drug addicts.

20 years ago shoplifting was a very different game, sneaky scared people too shook to go and mug someone. Now people come in and steal a trolleys worth of the same stuff, and the trolley, they use or threaten violence routinely and it's predominantly driven by organised gangs like the county lines thing

Buying baby formula from a druggie.

wt actual f

now ive heard it all

If course you are wrong and no people wouldn’t steal if they knew nobody would buy it - or they would only steal for themselves.

you must realise that your behaviour is directly contributing to the higher prices in the shops?

I would hate to find out a friend was behaving as you do. It would make me re-evaluate our friendship.

So this drug user has illegally stolen from some supermarket who are legally robbing us and who intend to keep on unreasonably doing so 🤔

Oh come on.

Shop assistants are getting threatened and abused by shoplifters. If they see someone shoplifting, they are putting themselves at risk if they intervene. Recently I saw a couple physically going for the security staff at our local supermarket.

And it then puts the prices up for everyone else. So it affects us all. The ones who pay for things, anyway.

Just lumping us with the higher bill, because if theft.

You're a twat OP.

Ok, OP, if shop lifting is a victimless crime and it's no bug deal, go to the shop yourself and steal the stuff....

Sorry but you dont know what lengths he is going to or where he is getting the stuff and I doubt you care, you are knowingly handling stolen goods, having a drug user at your house where your kids are, buying formula from him that could contain god knows what,it may be sealed but you wouldnt notice if anything was injected into it. Great parenting!!

You think cos you arent ordering he isnt stealing for you?? Anyone selling anything, will provide what they KNOW will sell. Trust me he is stealing the items he KNOWS you will buy.

It's not even that someone could have injected it, it might not even be stolen, it could just be some clone product made fuck knows where out of milk hopefully that their boss bought a pallet of and needs gone

Technically it is wrong but I’d consider buying off him too and would not mind if a friend did.

There are probably some people relying on him.

£10 a week on laundry is crazy though!

You should be absolutely disgusted with yourself, what example are you showing your children? What about those poor shops who profits he is stealing? If you do not buy it, someone else will is a terrible excuse to buy it without guilt! People like you are what is wrong with this country!

SNAP, I grew up poorer than poor. I understand people morals but if it wasn’t you buying it, someone else would. It makes no difference to me if I need something and someone’s selling it cheap I’m buying it. He could be robbing people for cash his probs stealing from a massive cooperate company. Don’t worry but what you need and thank him. As long as your not placing weekly shopping ordered I’d say your all ok.

I buy stuff from the local crackheads all the time. Needs must and times are tough. I'm with you here