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XL bullies

72 replies

fusspot786 · 23/06/2024 21:50

I don't know if it's because I've seen a few threads on here regarding them, but it's really playing on my mind lately.
I'm just very frightened of these dogs. And even more frightened of the growing attitude in their owners who seem to take great pleasure from flouting the rules and letting them off lead unmuzzled.
My dc is of an age where they're quite young but old enough to go to parks and out and about his own. It genuinely scares me that he'll come across one. Or I will while out with my little ones.
I realise the world is full of dangers but the brutal nature of their attacks really really scares me.
I wish they didn't exist.
I probably sound neurotic but they just send me cold. Hoping with the breeding laws they will gradually die out.

OP posts:
boredm · 23/06/2024 22:08

I saw one without a muzzle on and I was pretty scared. It's really selfish of the owners, antisocial even

fusspot786 · 23/06/2024 22:17

It's just the fact that they could be anywhere. And their feckless owners often aren't responsible for them and couldn't physically control one if they wanted to. Just last week an owner was killed by one.

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21ZIGGY · 23/06/2024 22:18

What is the point of yet another thread about this?

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 23/06/2024 22:20

I agree. Tey are scary, they aren't controlled. The owners who think they have them under control or would be able to hold them back on a lead are wrong.

fusspot786 · 23/06/2024 22:20

21ZIGGY · 23/06/2024 22:18

What is the point of yet another thread about this?

What is the point in you commenting on what you clearly see as a pointless thread? Just scroll on.

OP posts:
fluffypooch · 23/06/2024 22:22

Not all of us our reckless and flounce the rules.

ThursdayTomorrow · 23/06/2024 22:25

21ZIGGY · 23/06/2024 22:18

What is the point of yet another thread about this?

The OP wants to discuss it. Same as any other thread.
They scare me too OP. As do dogs that run up to me barking and jumping up.
So many dangerous dogs out there, how are we supposed to know which are dangerous? I just assume all are. There was a baby killed by the pet family dog just a few days ago.
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/elle-doherty-police-name-seven-month-old-baby-killed-by-pet-dog-13156696

Elle Doherty: Baby girl killed by family pet named by police - as they confirm breed of dog

The dog, which was registered as a Belgian Malinois, was removed from the family home and destroyed after the incident.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/elle-doherty-police-name-seven-month-old-baby-killed-by-pet-dog-13156696

FlissyPaps · 23/06/2024 22:26

You’re more likely to die or be injured in a road accident than by an XL Bully.

You can’t let this fear stop you from living your life and letting your children go outdoors.

rainbowunicorn · 23/06/2024 22:28

21ZIGGY · 23/06/2024 22:18

What is the point of yet another thread about this?

What's the point of your post? There are thousands of threads on mumsnet, away you go and find one more suitable to what you are interested in and leave this one alone.

fusspot786 · 23/06/2024 22:39

FlissyPaps · 23/06/2024 22:26

You’re more likely to die or be injured in a road accident than by an XL Bully.

You can’t let this fear stop you from living your life and letting your children go outdoors.

I know and I wouldn't stop them but it's a worry the same as other dangers. It's just that despite the laws these dogs aren't controllable or contained. If anything the law seems to have encouraged certain owners to behave even more recklessly as if to prove a point.
I think it's the brutal, horrible nature of the attacks that really scares me. They are literal monsters.

OP posts:
BovineUniversity · 23/06/2024 22:44

I'm a very experienced dog owner/lover but there's is something very chilling about these dogs.

I was running about a year ago and saw one off lead. Totally under control but I was terrified. Slowed to a walk and let them past.

Last week I saw the same dog in the same place on lead and muzzled. I was so pleased that the owner had taken the rules seriously. Again - this dog has done nothing wrong (that I know about) but it brings out a layer of fear I didn't know I had.

Like walking on a dark street alone and hearing footsteps. That kind of awful visceral terror.

Anyway - I'm hopeful things will improve as I don't want to live in fear.

Bendrix · 23/06/2024 22:49

Is there a spray you can carry in case they do attack. Like mace or something? Thinking of getting something like this.

I'm a dog owner and lover but there's something seriously fecking defective about these dogs. They're not right.
Normal dogs don't kill people and definitely not their owner

Opinionwontchangeluv · 23/06/2024 22:53

ThursdayTomorrow · 23/06/2024 22:25

The OP wants to discuss it. Same as any other thread.
They scare me too OP. As do dogs that run up to me barking and jumping up.
So many dangerous dogs out there, how are we supposed to know which are dangerous? I just assume all are. There was a baby killed by the pet family dog just a few days ago.
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/elle-doherty-police-name-seven-month-old-baby-killed-by-pet-dog-13156696

Omg this is so sad.

Opinionwontchangeluv · 23/06/2024 22:55

fusspot786 · 23/06/2024 22:39

I know and I wouldn't stop them but it's a worry the same as other dangers. It's just that despite the laws these dogs aren't controllable or contained. If anything the law seems to have encouraged certain owners to behave even more recklessly as if to prove a point.
I think it's the brutal, horrible nature of the attacks that really scares me. They are literal monsters.

I know monsters, they are humans not dogs.
Please get over this op, the threads aren't helping and you cannot control what others do.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 23/06/2024 22:59

I live in a lovely rural place and some absolute wanker drove out here yesterday to exercise his massive XL Bully. I saw him park up on our road and take out his mega beast- not muzzled and not neutered. He then walked off to the nice country lane round the back of our house. The dog was reacting to everything that moved nearby and was constantly alert. It was terrifying. If he comes again I’m going to take a picture of his reg and report him to the police.

Zwellers · 23/06/2024 23:01

Yey another dog bashing thread. There hasn't been one for at least a day.

fusspot786 · 23/06/2024 23:01

@Opinionwontchangeluv I mean I'm pretty sure the people who've been mauled and killed by them would argue that they are indeed monsters, if they could.
I know I can't do anything which makes it even more scary.
It's an open forum and I'm discussing a subject that worries me. Threads like this may not be helping but it's a conversation, there doesn't need to be an outcome or solution.

OP posts:
fluffypooch · 23/06/2024 23:02

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 23/06/2024 22:59

I live in a lovely rural place and some absolute wanker drove out here yesterday to exercise his massive XL Bully. I saw him park up on our road and take out his mega beast- not muzzled and not neutered. He then walked off to the nice country lane round the back of our house. The dog was reacting to everything that moved nearby and was constantly alert. It was terrifying. If he comes again I’m going to take a picture of his reg and report him to the police.

How did you know it wasn't neutered?

fusspot786 · 23/06/2024 23:02

Zwellers · 23/06/2024 23:01

Yey another dog bashing thread. There hasn't been one for at least a day.

Not a dog bashing thread, I have dogs myself.

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HospitalitySux · 23/06/2024 23:04

I'm not one of the 'deed not breed' group, but, I can't help thinking the whole issue is humans and their behaviour - these dogs can absolutely be lethal because of their size and strength - and the fact they have had aggression bred into them, originally to kill bulls and now as a show of force as dominance from a culture of those who have zero respect for anyone or anything, we can and should ban these dogs, because they're dangerous, but they're dangerous because they've been made that way, and until we tackle that culture, there will always be another object, or breed of dog, or any animal that can be dangerous and will be used in the way these dogs are being used.

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 23/06/2024 23:06

fluffypooch · 23/06/2024 23:02

How did you know it wasn't neutered?

Assuming a male dog.. probably the massive bollocks between his back legs

newyear2024 · 23/06/2024 23:09

I agree OP. They scare me in the same way I would be scared of someone walking a lion beside me, they send me on high alert and I always cross the street while reassuring myself it can't smell my fear 😅

Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 23/06/2024 23:11

fluffypooch · 23/06/2024 22:22

Not all of us our reckless and flounce the rules.

Yes, but all XL bully owners are deluded if they think their dog is a “fluffy pooch”

Noone of sound mind would have a dog that is capable of so much damage in a domestic setting and take it out in residential areas where you cannot control the environment.

The public need properly protected and the only way to do that is to make restrictions even tougher or have a cull to stop people dying.

I am I dog lover, and I feel sorry for these dogs, but I feel more angry at the idiots who breed and buy them.

XelaM · 23/06/2024 23:16

ThursdayTomorrow · 23/06/2024 22:25

The OP wants to discuss it. Same as any other thread.
They scare me too OP. As do dogs that run up to me barking and jumping up.
So many dangerous dogs out there, how are we supposed to know which are dangerous? I just assume all are. There was a baby killed by the pet family dog just a few days ago.
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/elle-doherty-police-name-seven-month-old-baby-killed-by-pet-dog-13156696

A Belgian Malinois is the "family pet" that killed that girl. It's one of the most aggressive guard breeds there is and anyone who gets these dogs as "family pets" needs their heads examined. Just like XL bullies or any Pitbull-type dog that is stronger than any human.

We have a toy breed dog and no one is scared of him because he is small. He happens to be a sweetheart, but even if he wasn't any adult could easily overpower him in 30 seconds. Why would anyone want anything in their house that is so much stronger than them that they have absolutely no way of controlling when things go wrong?!?

Againname · 23/06/2024 23:16

They scare me too OP and similar breeds, and I usually love dogs.

Think something like 50% of them come from a dog called Killer or similar name and have violent genetics? They were deliberately bred (and abused) to be aggressive.

Even if they're not inherently violent, their sheer size and strength means they're more of a risk if attacking than a smaller breed.