Will my DH have given DS food poisoning?

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We’ve got some cold chicken legs - ready to eat in the fridge. DS (5) said he doesn’t like them cold, my DH decided to warm them up in the air fryer for a few minutes then gave to DS. He’s now eaten them. I’ve come downstairs and he’s told me this and I’m not impressed. DH said because they’re fine to eat cold then it won’t be a problem. But I thought chicken needed to be cooked through to piping hot, even if it’s ready to eat.

This is what I don't understand. Are people eating their dinner when it's burning hot and destroying the insides of their mouths? In case the food enters the danger zone on their plates?

So by that rule you could never make a chicken pie or soup with leftover roast chicken, which people, including restaurants do all the time?

I don't make pies or soup from left over chicken -I do make sandwiches with it when it is cold, though.

Son makes Chilli and I do eat that the next day heated properly through.

@oakleaffy thank you, I see you explained just after I posted. I guess the difference between stuff bought ready cooked and a roast you cook yourself is the extra time outside the fridge while you take it home (plus whatever happens to it in the factory while it's being cooled).

I am actually pretty careful too and wouldn't reheat rice (especially not rice from a takeaway!). It just never occurred to me that reheating my own leftovers might not be ok. My MIL (also 85) leaves casseroles to cool on the side overnight, which I feel is a step too far...

That is why a lot of the imaginary official advice is that - imaginary. Of course restaurants and 90% of the world do this all the time.... How many recipes do you see about reusing Christmas Day leftovers? Loads

Hey Op, cold cooked chicken needs to be reheated to at least 82° , I'm in Scotland and that's the rule where i work. Cold chicken still has dormant bacteria in it,. Google the "danger zone" for cooled cooked meat, n buy a probe ☺️

I do this every other day and I've always been fine

This is totally illogical. So it would be fine to eat the chicken fridge cold, but not okay to heat it up for a few minutes? The 5 minutes it spent in the air fryer is not going to suddenly cause a load of bacteria to grow. The piping hot thing is for food that needs to be reheated.

Why would you Google rather than starting a MN thread about how inept your husband is?

Cooked meat that is rehet under 60° will be crawling in bacteria that was dormant in the fridge when the meat was below 4°

Oh sorry I thought it was from takeaway but that was someone else

Never reheat cooked rice, that one is a killer, same as reheating gravy, just don't

Never reheat cooked rice, that one is a killer,

Where does it say not to reheat cooked rice?

I can only find that if it has been correctly cooled, stored & reheated it's ok.

The inside of your body runs at a constant, cosy, bacteria-enhancing 38°. 🤷‍♂️

Good grief there is some misinformation in here, of course if it was fine cold - warmed a few minutes later will make a negligible difference

People are confusing this with chicken that has been prepared differently and sat around a while - it doesn't magically become bad after a few minutes of warming

Tf is wrong with reheating gravy?!

It makes a lot of difference
Cooking kills most of the bacteria but a small amount will still be present. There are also spores present which aren’t harmful to eat.
Provided the food is cooked to the correct temperature it can then be cooled (quickly as it can’t stay in the danger zone too long) and then safely eaten cold.
A lot of cold food we eat has been quickly cooled in factories in a blast chiller.
Any bacteria in the food lies dormant whilst in the fridge - ie it is at a safe level
If the temperature rises - either by it being left out or not heated properly - then the bacteria present will multiply and the spores will “hatch” with more bacteria.
That’s why if anything is reheated it should be reheated back to a safe level
(I teach Advanced food safety for several companies )

The only thing I can find about pasta is the 20yr old who had left the food out for 5days before reheating.

Why is it disgusting

The advice used to be not to reheat rice as it contains a lot of spores, even after cooking
Eating this does not make you ill but if left in the wrong temperature these will “hatch” resulting in dangerous levels of bacteria.
Rice is one of the worst foods for this.
Advice has changed now to reheat to piping hot but it’s the one food I personally will never reheat

Still the same bacteria though and your stomach is at 37 degrees so those dormant bacteria could easily start crawling around in your stomach 🙄
The problem with food safety is that most people lack basic scientific knowledge so are not able to fully understand the reasons for the guidelines.

if there were 50 bacteria dormant at 4 degrees there will be 50 bacteria “crawling “ at sixty degrees. You would have to wait the number of minutes that it takes those bacteria to double for their to be 100 and so on. Most strains double every 4-20 minutes. At home people generally eat their food straight away but you can see how in restaurants etc where food might sit around the guidelines need to be more stringently enforced.

If it's eaten immediately it will be fine. Not sure what you expect the difference to be between cold chicken and after 5 mins of warming. Had he heated them say in advance of a party and not heated thoroughly then it's a problem as open for hours. E coli is capable of doubling every 20 min at right temp.

It's not the reheating that's the problem. It's the leaving it out after the first cooking. Cooked rice should be refrigerated within 2 hours of cooking.

Whether you then eat it reheated or cold makes no difference.

The bacteria in cooked rice can make toxins if it's left at room temp for too long. These toxins can't be killed by subsequent reheating

I just hope he’s okay 🤞 will be on edge all day tomorrow. Yes the chicken was already pre cooked (ready to eat) and just been re-heated in air fryer.

Completely agree. Everyone freaking out will not have read properly that the chicken was pre-cooked.