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To explain that exercise does not affect your weight, or impact on obesity rates

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allmyown · 22/06/2024 14:59

I see this misconception all over MN every day.

Exercise is fantastic for your physical and mental health in many ways, but it is not a weight loss tool.

Posters are forever quoting energy in -minus energy out = energy stored, etc, as if we are petrol engines or something! we are not - this is not how our body works.

It is more like energy available / energy required to maintain weight= energy body decides to use.

Your body burns off excess energy if you are taking in more than your homeostatic systems think you need. Your body slows down and uses far less energy if you have taken in less than your homeostatic system thinks you need.

And so if you lose weight, and go below what your body wants you to be, then your metabolism will just slow down massively to make the weight go back on. And if you exercise a lot, your metabolism will just adjust to accommodate that.

The key to weight loss is making sure your homeostatic systems decide you should be a healthy weight. You can lower the weight your homeostatic systems is attempting to maintain, with healthy eating, cut out sugar, HPF, vegetable oil, margarine, and cut down on wheat.

Eat plenty of fresh food and greens, nothing long dated.

Unless you are running 10K every single day, you are not exercising enough to change your weight, and even if you are, it won't stay changed.

The obesity epidemic is related to sugar, highly processed food, vegetable oil, margarine, etc, and poor diet in general, not too little exercise.

But don't get me wrong, there are other health problems caused by too little exercise, I am not saying exercise is bad, just that an obese child is not necessarily a child getting inadequate exercise, as so many people seem to think.

Read "Why we eat too much" by Andrew Jenkinson, he explains the up to date science in so much more detail.

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HelmholtzWatson · 07/07/2024 06:42

allmyown · 07/07/2024 02:00

You are completely misunderstanding the difference between a machine and a living body. There are literally thousands of variables in a living body. Your metabolism adjusts. For example, if you take in fewer calories, your body spends fewer calories on the immune system, or maintains a temperature 0.25 degrees lower, or similar. And if you take in more, then the body uses more, whether you exercise or not

No it doesn't. If you take in fewer calories, then your body will start burning your fat stores to maintain homeostasis. That's the whole point of fat.

Only when fat stores are depleted will homeostasis potentially be affected, which I assume isn't the issue for the vast majority of people reading this.

HelmholtzWatson · 07/07/2024 06:49

allmyown · 07/07/2024 01:56

no you are not, this is all nonsense. You need to be tested in a lab to get any idea of you metabolic rate, this is just throwing numbers into a formula that calculates a vague average. There are huge differences in individuals. You need to have the carbon dioxide entering and exiting your body measures, over 12 hours or so, to get an accurate idea.

the OP talked about data being "more tailored to you" and "obtaining reasonably good data sets", so no it was not "all nonsense", they made a perfectly reasonable claim that will be a very useful heuristic for the vast majority of people.

TiroirSousLeMiroir · 26/07/2024 19:48

Thank you so much Op for reminding me of the sugar thing. About ten years ago I had my only weight loss success by cutting out all added sugar. Since then I fell off the wagon, so I am giving it another go based on your thread. Also adding in spread type butter substitute.
The difficulty is getting my kids to have less chocolate, but at least they only have water or milk to drink.

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