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To think women with 3+ kids should pay less taxes

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WhatTodoALL · 21/06/2024 10:44

All parties will have to deal with the increasing number of old people and low fertility rate. They use this fact to justify big numbers of net migration. I was wondering if we as a country should actively provide economical benefits for women to have more than one child? In some countries like Singapore there are a lot of economic incentives to have more than 2 kids. I have 3 kids myself and I don't know anyone in my friendship group who would have more than 2. In fact, most don't want to have even one child citing economical reasons.

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CleanShirt · 30/06/2024 14:22

Stolengoat · 30/06/2024 08:00

People without children will use alot more state resources when they are old, as they don't have their children to help and support them.

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The amount of posts on here where people are NC with their parents tells me this isn't true.

Metempsychosis · 30/06/2024 15:21

CleanShirt · 30/06/2024 14:22

The amount of posts on here where people are NC with their parents tells me this isn't true.

Have you ever spent time on the elderly parents board?

Greaterorlesser · 01/07/2024 16:02

Stolengoat · 30/06/2024 11:17

I don't know anyone that doesn't support their parents, but maybe that is not the norm? Do you not support your parents or would you not?

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I’ve got two siblings one severely disabled who is in a care home that is paid for by the council, one who lives in another part of the UK and didn’t ever visit my ailing parents. Of the three children my parents produced only one of us went on to be a tax payer

Metempsychosis · 01/07/2024 16:37

Buttermilky · 30/06/2024 11:23

I agree, especially these upcoming generation who have been screwed over so much. I think if anything they’re needing their parents to support them and many will never be never position to support their parents.

Most people I know from my generation - millienials- do not financially support or provide care for their parents. The exception to that is friends from immigrant backgrounds. Some of them do but even then it’s not the majority.

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Surely only a very small proportion of millennials have parents needing support in their old age. The vast majority of their parents will be under 70.

Buttermilky · 02/07/2024 00:08

Metempsychosis · 01/07/2024 16:37

Surely only a very small proportion of millennials have parents needing support in their old age. The vast majority of their parents will be under 70.

I’m classed as an “older millennial” (late 30s) and myself and many of my friends who are the same have parents 70+.

@Greaterorlesser yeah and we are seeing so many people don’t go on to be taxpayers. A childhood friend of mine had her first kid at age 19 and didn’t work until she was 30, was on full benefits before that . now she works 16 hours and still on benefits. And I don’t mean this as a criticism but more as a simple fact, the way she’s raising her teens - to lack ambition and not value education and to be quite lazy tbh - I can imagine they’ll go the same way.

Againname · 02/07/2024 02:32

Stolengoat · 30/06/2024 08:00

People without children will use alot more state resources when they are old, as they don't have their children to help and support them.

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They use less state resources when younger though. No schools, no maternity care etc

And they won't necessarily use more state resources when older than us parents.

Many childfree/childless have nieces and nephews, but also not every adult child can or will care for their elderly parents.

Some don't get on with their parents and others live too far away to help.

Also often the support an elderly parent needs is beyond capability for their family to do. Which is why so many people, including those with children, go into care homes.

mandymeans · 02/07/2024 06:24

SabbatWheel · 21/06/2024 15:23

Not if the ones pumping out the kids are the ‘economically inactive’ who have families of ‘economically inactive’ young adults sat around gaming, smoking weed and expected a handout every fortnight. They won’t be much use to the economy really.

I was thankful we were able to have one child but we couldn’t afford two or more. Birth it, pay for it.

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Birth 'it's? 🤢

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