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Do you think a private school adds value to your child's education?

26 replies

Allotment123 · 18/06/2024 22:08

Yes? Then is it not fair to pay value added tax? Boom boom

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WomensRightsRenegade · 18/06/2024 22:10

The same could be said for university education, tutoring, music lessons etc

vodkaredbullgirl · 18/06/2024 22:13

🙄

Penguinfeet24 · 18/06/2024 22:15

Never made a blind bit of difference to me and I went to private school all my school life.

Topofthemountain · 18/06/2024 22:15

This is getting dull now.

Didimum · 18/06/2024 22:37

Oh god please make it stop

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 18/06/2024 22:38

An extension would add value to your house. What is you point?

It's a luxury. Other options are available

Revelatio · 18/06/2024 22:43

Are you not paying VAT for your extension?!!!

CelesteCunningham · 18/06/2024 22:49

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 18/06/2024 22:38

An extension would add value to your house. What is you point?

It's a luxury. Other options are available

And I paid a fuckton of VAT on my extension Smile

Jc2001 · 18/06/2024 22:53

Revelatio · 18/06/2024 22:43

Are you not paying VAT for your extension?!!!

I think that's exactly the point. They're paying vat for a luxury item.

BibbleandSqwauk · 18/06/2024 23:01

The value it adds to my kids is that they can tolerate being there and have their pastoral and ND needs met. Personally I don't think that should be a luxury but apparently it is deemed so. I give zero fucks about nice buildings, Latin, rowing, grades achieved (possibly very few) or networking in later life. I do care about small classes, a great pastoral system and actual genuine flexibility to meet their needs. That SHOULD NOT be a luxury and it's pretty bloody telling that we've reached a point in our education system where it is. The VAT policy will do nothing to address the issue in bringing up state schools to a position where they can offer appropriate care to all children. That would take a much bigger, braver policy of investment and long term planning. But that's too hard. Much easier just to put up a headline grabbing policy thats easy to "sell" and hope desperately no-one asks in 5 years time where the money went.

Halfemptyhalfling · 18/06/2024 23:24

Being able to afford food adds to children's education. That is why vat needs to be rerouted to pay for food for children from poor families

ChickenNuggetDreamland · 19/06/2024 10:47

Given the shit show of our local state schools we deem it as a necessity.
That's why we work all the hours god sends, keep our skills fresh, go without, remortgage, don't go on holiday and drive a clapped out car so that we can scrimp to pay for it.

My life feels far from luxurious but I guess it must appear like that to some.

Universal99 · 19/06/2024 10:50

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paasll · 19/06/2024 11:00

would have been illegal had we not brexited
that ought to tell you enough

value added tax
get any value from the rent/mortgage you pay? Wanna pay VAT on that as well

your post is fuckwitted

unsync · 19/06/2024 11:01

Why do you consider SEN provision a luxury? There are a lot of very ordinary people who make huge sacrifices to send their SEN kids to private school as mainstream either can't or won't provide for them.

I am starting to think that there must be a tax on critical thinking as so few people on MN seem capable of it.

OSU · 19/06/2024 11:15

BibbleandSqwauk · 18/06/2024 23:01

The value it adds to my kids is that they can tolerate being there and have their pastoral and ND needs met. Personally I don't think that should be a luxury but apparently it is deemed so. I give zero fucks about nice buildings, Latin, rowing, grades achieved (possibly very few) or networking in later life. I do care about small classes, a great pastoral system and actual genuine flexibility to meet their needs. That SHOULD NOT be a luxury and it's pretty bloody telling that we've reached a point in our education system where it is. The VAT policy will do nothing to address the issue in bringing up state schools to a position where they can offer appropriate care to all children. That would take a much bigger, braver policy of investment and long term planning. But that's too hard. Much easier just to put up a headline grabbing policy thats easy to "sell" and hope desperately no-one asks in 5 years time where the money went.

This ^

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 19/06/2024 12:06

@unsync I worked long hours and still couldn't afford private school for my SEN child. we didn't go on holidays, we didn't have sky or virgin. Every penny went towards bills and living costs.

It is a luxury.

paasll · 19/06/2024 12:21

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 19/06/2024 12:06

@unsync I worked long hours and still couldn't afford private school for my SEN child. we didn't go on holidays, we didn't have sky or virgin. Every penny went towards bills and living costs.

It is a luxury.

It’s not a luxury. Education is a right and a need and it is mandated by law.

some people can’t afford food. That doesn’t make food a luxury.

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 19/06/2024 13:41

@paasll It's an expensive luxury. It's not easily affordable or accessible for everyone. State schools provide education. People on here keep going on about making sacrifices to afford private education, but can't understand that some us have nothing left to sacrifice and still could never afford it.

It is a luxury

BibbleandSqwauk · 19/06/2024 17:32

But state schools DON'T provide an education that is accessible or suitable for many many kids, usually ND. They simply don't. The only way my kids have been able to access an education is for me to go into debt and precarious long term finances to meet the fees of a small, very unflash, not posh private school. I understand that not everyone can do this no matter how hard they work or save and their kids are left to cope or not as best they can, but that's not a reason to spread that misery by imposing a 20% hike. If the numbers stacked up and by doing this, all state schools would actually provide an acceptable provision, I'd totally see the need for it. But it won't.

DecafFox · 10/07/2024 20:57

Sorry, why is this still being discussed?

There is a continuum of household income and expenditure. Those who can, will. Many will struggle. Those who can't or won't, will go state. Then there will be those who won't be affected.

Not much will be raised, the entire education system will still be broken, no child will benefit from it, will be detrimental for some (who either have to move or have needs that can't be catered to in state sector).

Scaevola · 10/07/2024 21:16

VAT isn't a luxury tax

It's a general sales tax.

EU doesn't tax education. Interesting to see how many are now embracing what we have only because of Brexit

Icepop79 · 10/07/2024 21:19

DecafFox · 10/07/2024 20:57

Sorry, why is this still being discussed?

There is a continuum of household income and expenditure. Those who can, will. Many will struggle. Those who can't or won't, will go state. Then there will be those who won't be affected.

Not much will be raised, the entire education system will still be broken, no child will benefit from it, will be detrimental for some (who either have to move or have needs that can't be catered to in state sector).

It wasn’t being discussed.
The last post before yours was from 19th June. Why resurrect an old post if you don’t want to discuss it?

YarsidokaLoafer · 10/07/2024 21:23

Private schools vary so much, it's impossible to give a general answer. On the whole, I'd say most private schools don't add much value.

Thetroutofnocraic1 · 10/07/2024 21:28

My husband was privately educated , I was not. We did similar in exams ( I did slightly better but statistically females do). From discussions we have had it is clear I was exposed a broad range of people from different socioeconomic backgrounds and cultures in comparison to him. I think this is better for children. Even if I had the money I don’t think I’d be bothered sending my child to a private school.

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