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AIBU to ask if you believe in Karma?

30 replies

Tomorrowwillbeok · 16/06/2024 18:16

Just that really, do you believe there’s karma where systems/public services have failed to hold people accountable for their actions?

OP posts:
AllProperTeaIsTheft · 16/06/2024 18:18

No, I don't believe in karma at all. Some people/organisations do bad things. Some of them get their comeuppance some don't.

LemonCitron · 16/06/2024 18:19

No, personally I don't believe this.

VolvoFan · 16/06/2024 18:21

I believe in karma as in justice can come in all forms. I don't believe it's some kind of mystical force.

Mysticguru · 16/06/2024 18:34

Remember the time you told your first lie? Then you have a realisation that if you can lie so can everybody else. So can you ever believe anyone ever again ever in your life?
Same thing applies if you cheat or steal, or kill, or gossip, or are two faced.......

What has it done to your subconscious? And what would you call it?

Georgethecat1 · 16/06/2024 18:36

I want to believe in karma but the older I get I realise bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people. And even more confusing is what someone else defines as bad might not be for someone else and if karma was real who is defining right / wrong?

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 16/06/2024 18:42

No, what would be the mechanism for that to operate?

Itsallfunngamesuntil · 16/06/2024 18:49

I believe in....what you sow tou will reap

Not quite karma per se....more that your actions or behaviour have consequences

Eeeden · 16/06/2024 18:54

No, terrible things happen to good people and fantastic things happen to horrible people all the time.

ssd · 16/06/2024 18:57

Nope
If only

ComtesseDeSpair · 16/06/2024 18:58

No. I mean, even apart from a point of logic and reason, do you look at e.g. chronically ill people or people who’ve experienced something like a child’s death and believe they must deserve it because they have bad karma? Because that’s essentially how it should work, isn’t it.

I believe that if you are a halfway decent, friendly, cheerful person then you’ll cultivate decency and good cheer around you and your life will go better for it. A purely human rather than superstitious effect.

Skyrainlight · 16/06/2024 19:03

I believe there is karma but I read a book in Thailand and it opened my eyes to the fact that karma doesn't have to happen in this lifetime, it can come in the next.

TellerTuesday · 16/06/2024 19:04

Nope, not in the slightest. Too many people are waiting for a good dose of it and it never seems to arrive, unfortunately.

IsabelleHuppert · 16/06/2024 19:07

Skyrainlight · 16/06/2024 19:03

I believe there is karma but I read a book in Thailand and it opened my eyes to the fact that karma doesn't have to happen in this lifetime, it can come in the next.

Yes, but is only relevant if you follow a belief system which includes multiple reincarnations, which most don’t.

No, of course not, OP. In its most frequently used sense it’s just wishful thinking from people who’ve been hurt or betrayed or otherwise damaged by others, and like to fantasise about how the same fate is waiting for them. But life isn’t like a cartoon where they guy laughing at the guy who slips on the banana peel in his turn slips on another banana peel he didn’t see because he was too busy laughing at the first guy.

Elphame · 16/06/2024 19:08

Not the popular bowdlerised Western form of it no.

TattieBap · 16/06/2024 19:29

No

5128gap · 16/06/2024 19:35

Of course not. Our life experience proves time and again there is no cosmic force guaranteeing that bad things come back on those who deserve them and good things to good people. Sometimes good or bad actions can start a chain of events that make it appear that way, so a horrible person ends up with no friends, for example, but that's just basic actions and consequences. No higher power involved. Personally I really hate the idea that people who are suffering would be encouraged to think they deserved it somehow.

ufdcnh2564 · 16/06/2024 19:37

No but wish it existed

Perzival · 16/06/2024 19:44

Yes, my df died of lung cancer. He had a horrible death. His "partner" was awful. The first thing she did was use his debit card to go to Tesco 30mins after his body had been taken to the undertakers. She and her daughters took out the max amount of cash from his current account every day while telling me and my brother thst we didn't need to rush to deal with banks and paperwork. She didn't pay a penny towards the funeral.

She died of lung cancer too a few years later, with a much longer drawn out illness.

It doesn't offer comfort or make me feel better but yes I think this is karma.

FieldInWhichFucksAreGrownIsBarren · 16/06/2024 19:45

No, though I do wish it was real.

Linnet · 16/06/2024 19:45

Yes, it’s the only way to cope with the way that my husband’s stepmother has treated the family since his fathers death. She is a horrible wicked person and one day she will get her comeuppance and it will all come back to bite her.

tsmainsqueeze · 16/06/2024 19:50

Yes i do think what goes around comes around and a bad deed or behaviour often slaps the perpetrator round the face at some point in the future.

Juststopit · 16/06/2024 19:50

Well my ex husband ( horrible abusive cheat of a man) is now unemployed, living in a shitty rented flat while I’ve turned my life around and have my own home and a good job so perhaps. Whatever it is it makes me chuckle.

Forhecksake · 16/06/2024 20:35

Sometimes, to an extent. Being nice won't stop bad things from happening to someone. But a nice person is more likely to have people around who care and want to help.

I had someone at work do something unnecessary and not pleasant when competing with me for a promotion. It felt awful, so I withdrew my application and started looking for other jobs. She got the promotion... and it went so badly that the entire team revolted and her post was eliminated. Karma/consequences of being nasty 🤷‍♀️... either/or

IWantToBeASleepingCat · 16/06/2024 20:40

My first husband left me after 12 years for someone else.
We met very young age 16/17.
I was devastated and had a 1 year old baby.. l had a breakdown.
7 years later the OW left him for someone else.
He rang me up.. ( l had re married and pregnant and happy at the time) to apologise (while crying )for what he put me through 7 years previously .. because he now knew how l felt when he did it to me.
I think that is what you would call KARMA!
So yes l believe.

Happyher · 16/06/2024 20:43

I do sort of believe in it. I’ve seen it happen many times in life but it could be just coincidence. I do think that showing kindness to others makes your own life happier. No evidence - just my own feelings and experience. I have no religious faith so I guess I look for other things to believe in

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