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How thick are some people?

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notedbiscuits · 16/06/2024 11:29

About a quarter of a mile from my home there is a McDs which is closed a few days ago for a refurbishment til around 8th August (I think). It’s off a major roundabout. Drive on the roundabout a few times a week.

Despite the whole area fenced off, most of the external walls have gone, signs with reopening date with another McDs postcode (there’s one nearer), car park taken up by portacabins and old ventilation bits etc - people are still trying to enter McDs! This is even from the side of the roundabout where you can see the building is just a shell.

How people are going to cope with McDs closed for 7.5 weeks with the schools breaking up on the second week of July.

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TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 18/06/2024 07:18

If you have a pond, and then fill it it, frogs still come to it even though it is no longer there.

So I think these people must be a bit like frogs 🐸.
Yes, that'll be it - frogs in a former life.

taxguru · 18/06/2024 07:31

Intelligence, wisdom and common sense are three entirely different things.

It's quite common for highly intelligent people to have zero common sense, particularly professionals, in my opinion, such as dentists and doctors, solicitors, etc. They may be brilliant at their profession, but havn't a clue how to do the normal things in life (nor are they interested in the normal things in life).

My neighbour is a newly retired hospital consultant. He can't even manage to put the right bins out on bin day. He'll put his green bin out when everyone else has their black ones out - he just doesn't look at the others - he's in his own World. Same with parking his car - sometimes on the pavement, sometimes 3/4 feet away from the kerb, sometimes half on half off his drive blocking the pavement - no rhyme nor reason. Having a conversation with him is "interesting" as he has no concept of modern affairs, clearly doesn't read newspapers nor watch the news - just seems to read books/journals all day. He can be in and out of the house several times a day - a typical day could be driving to the shop to buy milk, then an hour later he'll drive out for 10 minutes and come back with something else, and so it goes on - he seems to just go out when he realises he's run out of something and doesn't seem capable of writing a list and getting several things at once! And no, it's not because he's retired and older - we've been neighbours for 27 years and he was the same when he was in his prime! A highly intelligence man, but no common sense and no real life skills at all!

Aquarelles · 18/06/2024 07:43

Ladyandherspaniel · 18/06/2024 03:56

I work in a retail shop. We closed our customer services and now everything is done at the tills 10ft from the previous Cs counter...
We have signs on the old CS counter telling the customers to take refunds to the tills and the amount of customers day in day out that just stand at this empty counter, which has now been empty for at least 2 years... They stand reading the sign that says "take all refunds to the tills" and argue with us and even when we point out there is no tills at this counter it's like we are stopping them from having a refund.

We put stock in front of the counter at one point and customers would try and move it out of the way to get to the counter 😂

My store manager always said to me.. No one reads ANYTHING!! Including staff. We can put signs up informing staff of things and guaranteed numerous people will complain they haven't seen what we have put up.

Agree with this.

I had written an instruction on the office noticeboard, in the handover log, and typed it up separately and left on the desk, and I still got a phone call at 3am from my colleague asking me what to do... Angry

CeratopsofthePharoahs · 18/06/2024 07:45

People don't read signs. Doesn't matter how big and clear you make it, some people just can't handle that something has changed and they need to pay attention.

Some years ago where I live there was some major road restructuring and a bus lane was moved. There was a lot of signage put up warning people about the changes when it all re-opened. The local council had a grace period of a few months so that when people got caught driving in the bus lane they'd just get a warning. There was a great news article about how the numbers of people getting caught wasn't dropping as so many people just drove the way they always had.
It was really stupid. Ok it's not a route I used very often but the lane designations were REALLY clear. It was easier to get through after the changes too, which was a nice surprise. And yet I suspect the council still makes quite a bit of money from people who can't understand that the road has changed.

TM1979 · 18/06/2024 07:51

People are very thick. I asked the window cleaner to come. I clearly said any day except Wednesday. He texted yesterday..Are you home on Wednesday? Fuck sake.

HaveABlastOfThisMatrix · 18/06/2024 09:14

DivergentTris · 16/06/2024 11:59

I do wonder about this too.

Our petrol station had one of the petrol pumps out of order. The signs often got ignored, so we put bin bags right over them with brighter signs and people still went up and started removing them to try and get to the pumps!
Big, massive push sign on the door, many still pulled. We also had many come to the glass asking how to get in the building, and even when pointing to the door, they walked past it and had to ask someone else, and yes, it was obvious and no they were not partially sighted or anything. People were also using the door during these interactions and they still couldnt figure it out.
Another came to pick her car up but didnt know what kind of car it was, what colour it was, what she'd brought it in for, who she gave it to/spoke to and couldnt see it in the carpark - turns out it the mechanic who dealt with her had parked it right by the door she'd just walked in and it was right under her nose.

Goodness I could go on and on, so no OP I'm really not surprised and they probably do have clear signage.

Edited

That is actually rather frightening...

Kendodd · 18/06/2024 09:34

VestibuleVirgin · 18/06/2024 01:32

Can uou provide a reference for that statement?
Not a DM article, a peer-reviwed paper, or a bbc verfied link
Thanks

Oh come on! Everyone knows age was a big factor in voting Leave/Remain, likewise for voting Tory.

www.statista.com/statistics/520954/brexit-votes-by-age/

VestibuleVirgin · 18/06/2024 09:44

Kendodd · 18/06/2024 09:34

Oh come on! Everyone knows age was a big factor in voting Leave/Remain, likewise for voting Tory.

www.statista.com/statistics/520954/brexit-votes-by-age/

Statista not the most reliable source of data
Govenment stats?
Perr-reviewed, published paper?

Kendodd · 18/06/2024 10:09

VestibuleVirgin · 18/06/2024 09:44

Statista not the most reliable source of data
Govenment stats?
Perr-reviewed, published paper?

Honestly, what's the point of this? Are you seriously questioning the very well established and accepted link between age and brexit vote?

researchportal.bath.ac.uk/files/197673484/Older_Voters_PQ_final_5.pdf

2catsandhappy · 18/06/2024 10:12

Clothing retail.
I still wonder at the family who picked up an item labelled 1 1/2 to 2 years and said to companions, "Aw shame it's not 18 to 24 months."
Lost a sale there.

OP posts:
VestibuleVirgin · 18/06/2024 10:24

Kendodd · 18/06/2024 10:09

Honestly, what's the point of this? Are you seriously questioning the very well established and accepted link between age and brexit vote?

researchportal.bath.ac.uk/files/197673484/Older_Voters_PQ_final_5.pdf

Ta

Auburngal · 18/06/2024 10:27

Put some reduced chicken breasts in the reduced section. A customer picks up a one pack asking is it vegetarian!

HighOnMaiden · 18/06/2024 10:30

So am I right OP? The one in MP with the road layout change?

Whycantiwinmillionsandsquillions · 18/06/2024 10:42

I do think sometimes written signage becomes wallpaper and people just don’t take it in.
People often need someone to explain things to them.
However, lots of people think the messages don’t apply to them.
Signs saying closed for example.
Yep, closed even to you Dave.

Ilovecleaning · 18/06/2024 10:47

How this are some people?
Very thick.

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 18/06/2024 11:06

Many years ago when most people had a daily newspaper I had to some some statistics on the circulation figures. Every single day the Sun and News of the World vastly outsold all the other papers. That showed how thick most people are and I'm sure nothing has changed.

Auburngal · 18/06/2024 11:48

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 18/06/2024 11:06

Many years ago when most people had a daily newspaper I had to some some statistics on the circulation figures. Every single day the Sun and News of the World vastly outsold all the other papers. That showed how thick most people are and I'm sure nothing has changed.

Sun and Daily Mail are the biggest two selling newspapers. There are tantrums when we sell out of either paper. I just smile at them - have a day of not getting depressed.

Bumblebeeinatree · 18/06/2024 11:53

Average IQ is100....

the80sweregreat · 18/06/2024 11:54

I admit I struggle with things. Maybe people look at me and think ' she's thick' , but often simple things baffle me ( e gates at the airport for one example, using parking apps when my phone seems to just not work etc etc )
I don't believe I am really , but some people are just better at things I think!
( I don't read the sun though! lol)

AsYouWantToBe · 18/06/2024 13:53

taxguru · 18/06/2024 07:31

Intelligence, wisdom and common sense are three entirely different things.

It's quite common for highly intelligent people to have zero common sense, particularly professionals, in my opinion, such as dentists and doctors, solicitors, etc. They may be brilliant at their profession, but havn't a clue how to do the normal things in life (nor are they interested in the normal things in life).

My neighbour is a newly retired hospital consultant. He can't even manage to put the right bins out on bin day. He'll put his green bin out when everyone else has their black ones out - he just doesn't look at the others - he's in his own World. Same with parking his car - sometimes on the pavement, sometimes 3/4 feet away from the kerb, sometimes half on half off his drive blocking the pavement - no rhyme nor reason. Having a conversation with him is "interesting" as he has no concept of modern affairs, clearly doesn't read newspapers nor watch the news - just seems to read books/journals all day. He can be in and out of the house several times a day - a typical day could be driving to the shop to buy milk, then an hour later he'll drive out for 10 minutes and come back with something else, and so it goes on - he seems to just go out when he realises he's run out of something and doesn't seem capable of writing a list and getting several things at once! And no, it's not because he's retired and older - we've been neighbours for 27 years and he was the same when he was in his prime! A highly intelligence man, but no common sense and no real life skills at all!

That's a complete fallacy, though a widespread one on Mn, it seems. You have a sample of one person. I live next door to a couple, both medical consultants (one cardiology, one oncology) in their 60s, and both nasty pieces of work. It would be as illogical for me to conclude that most or all consultants are nasty based on my sample size, as it is for you to conclude that the majority of senior medics lack common sense or a knowledge of current affairs. In fact, I always look to my medic neighbours' gate to double-check which bin should go out.

In fact there's no adverse correlation between high achievement/intelligence in one sphere and achievement/common sense in others. Because of my job I know a lot of senior academics, lawyers, medics, highly-educated and high-achieving. Perfectly logically, they are also extremely competent in other areas of their lives -- running households, pursuing hobbies or sport to a high standard, cooking, keeping abreast of current affairs, raising children, reading widely, volunteering.

On Mn, it's a wish fulfilment to imagine that clever people can barely tie their shoelaces or boil a kettle.

taxguru · 18/06/2024 18:31

Auburngal · 18/06/2024 11:48

Sun and Daily Mail are the biggest two selling newspapers. There are tantrums when we sell out of either paper. I just smile at them - have a day of not getting depressed.

I used to deliver a paper round. It was back in the 70s when there were constant strikes with the printers. The wholesalers would send "extras" of whatever they had to the newsagents. As a 13 year old, I hadn't the faintest idea of the different political positions of different papers. To me, "red tops" were all the same, as were the more serious ones. I'd worked out not to deliver a red top to someone who normally had a broadsheet, and vice versa, but nothing more than that. I remember once being chased down the road by a very loud, aggressive, shouty woman and I was genuinely in fear of my life because of how aggressive and threatening she was being. My "crime" - the Guardians were on strike and the newsagents had been given extra Mails and extra Times. All I could do was randomly put a Mail or a Times through peoples' letterboxes who usually got a Guardian. This mad woman completely lost it at me that I'd put a Mail through her door! Any normal person would have just asked if I had anything else - most people did if they didn't want what I'd delivered, or we'd knock it off the bill if they didn't want any of the alternatives, but this crazy woman went absolutely berserk!

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 18/06/2024 18:38

@AsYouWantToBe With cardiology your safe to assume their nasty. Ortho as well.

Auburngal · 18/06/2024 18:44

taxguru · 18/06/2024 07:31

Intelligence, wisdom and common sense are three entirely different things.

It's quite common for highly intelligent people to have zero common sense, particularly professionals, in my opinion, such as dentists and doctors, solicitors, etc. They may be brilliant at their profession, but havn't a clue how to do the normal things in life (nor are they interested in the normal things in life).

My neighbour is a newly retired hospital consultant. He can't even manage to put the right bins out on bin day. He'll put his green bin out when everyone else has their black ones out - he just doesn't look at the others - he's in his own World. Same with parking his car - sometimes on the pavement, sometimes 3/4 feet away from the kerb, sometimes half on half off his drive blocking the pavement - no rhyme nor reason. Having a conversation with him is "interesting" as he has no concept of modern affairs, clearly doesn't read newspapers nor watch the news - just seems to read books/journals all day. He can be in and out of the house several times a day - a typical day could be driving to the shop to buy milk, then an hour later he'll drive out for 10 minutes and come back with something else, and so it goes on - he seems to just go out when he realises he's run out of something and doesn't seem capable of writing a list and getting several things at once! And no, it's not because he's retired and older - we've been neighbours for 27 years and he was the same when he was in his prime! A highly intelligence man, but no common sense and no real life skills at all!

We have a customer who lives in some flats which are on top of the jitty (alley) by my work and he comes in about 7 times a day to buy up to 3 items . Why not write a bloody shopping list and shop the once??

He was doing this during the early days of lockdown- when had to queue outside for 25-40 mins before entering the store. Must have spent 3-4 hours a day queuing

Loub55 · 18/06/2024 18:58

Seems quite a few Maccys being worked on atm by the sound of this thread!

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