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To want the private school people to shut up noq

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Rescuereivers · 13/06/2024 18:50

i am a parent with a private school
child in secondary school, and state primary child.

I mean I get it that your kids will suffer if you pull them out. But why did you not factor in a rise in costs and make damn sure you could afford it first? Cause state school is not THAT bad, and if it is in your area, there are places you can move to. if you could only just scrape by with the fees when you put them in, well that’s just reckless, and your fault not Labours.

And if your child has SEN then that’s awful, but it’s awful for parents in state schools with SEN kids too.

Please stop with the whining, cause state and private school parents alike are both heartily sick of hearing you moan.

(and you really sound like a Conservative HQ bot employed to put scare tactics on. You’ve gone over the top and it’s beginning to backfire).

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SeatedattheVirginals · 13/06/2024 18:55

Oh, state schools are apparently fiestas of drug taking and underachieving, staffed by dead-eyed no-hopers, attended by feral knuckle-draggers.

Spirallingdownwards · 13/06/2024 18:59

And you decided rather than saying this in one of the many existing threads saying the same to yet another one.

ASighMadeOfStone · 13/06/2024 19:01

Why the namechange?

CoralReader · 13/06/2024 19:03

You’d be annoyed if a political party raised something you bought by 20%

nocoolnamesleft · 13/06/2024 19:03

I wouldn't mind a couple of threads about it, but they're pretty much spamming the place about it. Which is a tad annoying.

Coldsore · 13/06/2024 19:04

it’s “because”, not “cause”.

SOxon · 13/06/2024 19:06

what is a noq ? genuine question

edwinbear · 13/06/2024 19:07

And so you started another thread on it?

ASighMadeOfStone · 13/06/2024 19:08

Coldsore · 13/06/2024 19:04

it’s “because”, not “cause”.

It's also "It's" with a capital at the beginning of a sentence.

SideEyeSally · 13/06/2024 19:11

I keep seeing people say 'why not factor in a potential fee rise when you made the decision' as if private school parents are somehow magically immune to the massive hikes in energy bills, food costs and mortgage interest hikes. I don't have kids in private school but my outgoings for the same quality of life are about a grand more a month now than they were 2 years ago. Smugly telling them off for not forward planning to absorb all that on top of a 20% fee hike that is just petty and vindictive.

TonTonMacoute · 13/06/2024 19:19

Just don't read the threads/news items.

Seashor · 13/06/2024 19:20

I’d like the state school parents to stop moaning about being asked to contribute anything to their children’s education. They constantly moan about EVERYTHING!
There’s a thread at the moment moaning about the school taking the children to an event and asking parents to collect early. It’s boring and ridiculous.
So let us have our moan, we don’t do it often.

ShanghaiDiva · 13/06/2024 19:23

I have a dd in private school and I doubt many parents anticipated a 20% increase in fees when they started the private school journey.
it doesn’t affect us as dd is year 13, but we had factored in a 5% increase each year.

LadyFeatheringt0n · 13/06/2024 19:27

Honestly i think a lot of private school parents live in a bit of a bubble, in RL they obviously know lots of other private school parents and are genuinely unaware of:

  • what a small percentage of the population they are
  • just how much worse off financially most other families are, parents using food banks, parents sat in the dark ekeing out a tiny bit of credit on the meter, parents choosing between a box of cheap tea bags & having a pound for the toothfairy.
Notellinganyone · 13/06/2024 19:30

I agree and I teach in one!

LauderSyme · 13/06/2024 19:30

I agree with you OP. Private school for children without an EHCP is a luxury most of us cannot afford.

It is perfectly reasonable to apply Value Added Tax to school fees.

It has been incredibly unreasonable to allow private schools to claim charitable status all this time, thereby forcing everyone else to pay the cost of giving a very few selected children a massive leg-up in society which will economically benefit them for the rest of their lives.

footgoldcycle · 13/06/2024 19:31

CoralReader · 13/06/2024 19:03

You’d be annoyed if a political party raised something you bought by 20%

House prices!!!

ItsNotAShopItsAStore · 13/06/2024 19:32

SeatedattheVirginals · 13/06/2024 18:55

Oh, state schools are apparently fiestas of drug taking and underachieving, staffed by dead-eyed no-hopers, attended by feral knuckle-draggers.

🤣🤣🤣

Another76543 · 13/06/2024 19:34

The thread titles show what a thread is about. People are free to scroll on by if they’re not interested. The fact that many interact with the threads shows that many are interested though.

I ignore threads about things like “line eyes”, nub theory, skin rashes, cruises, marital arguments, delivery driver complaints etc because I’m not interested in them. I’m not going to tell posters to “shut up” though, because everyone is free to post and comment on topics as they wish.

Another76543 · 13/06/2024 19:34

LauderSyme · 13/06/2024 19:30

I agree with you OP. Private school for children without an EHCP is a luxury most of us cannot afford.

It is perfectly reasonable to apply Value Added Tax to school fees.

It has been incredibly unreasonable to allow private schools to claim charitable status all this time, thereby forcing everyone else to pay the cost of giving a very few selected children a massive leg-up in society which will economically benefit them for the rest of their lives.

What has charitable status got to do with posts on VAT?

TheTartfulLodger · 13/06/2024 19:35

Coldsore · 13/06/2024 19:04

it’s “because”, not “cause”.

Yeah, so much for the private edumacation eh 😂

ItsNotAShopItsAStore · 13/06/2024 19:36

I have to say I have little sympathy and huge surprise when people say they’d have to pull their kids out of private schools are taxed. Private school fees rise every single year, and from the last decade people are paying 20% more according to the FT. sorry but if you’re not in a position to accommodate a fee rise you can’t afford private school, this rise could happen in a normal year when the school is struggling and losing pupils <dons hard hat>.

Rescuereivers · 13/06/2024 19:37

CoralReader · 13/06/2024 19:03

You’d be annoyed if a political party raised something you bought by 20%

But they haven’t thought have they? You ‘buy’ your school fees every year. Hence you are not taxed this year (as the tax didn’t apply when you ‘bought’ this year) but you may be taxed in future years as you ‘buy’ future years in the future. And 10% fees increase have been the norm since covid ended here. But hey, that was factored into plans. We probably won’t send the youngest to private secondary and we’ll be looking for a state sixth form college but that’s life.

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kanet · 13/06/2024 19:37

No - won’t shut up. Taxing any kind of education is regressive and wrong. Other countries don’t do it. It wasn’t what VAT was introduced for. And it’s unlikely to make money. It won’t benefit anyone. Will hurt some.

i can and will afford it - it’ll be one year of sixth form only for me and that’s it. So it’s hardly even personal interest.

plenty of people with kids in state schools don’t want this either.

calling me Tory HQ - utter shite. I didn’t vote last time and don’t know whether to this time. It’s actually childish and pretty demented to call people “Tory hq” when they don’t agree with a labour policy.

Rescuereivers · 13/06/2024 19:38

Another76543 · 13/06/2024 19:34

What has charitable status got to do with posts on VAT?

Nothing. We can agree on that.

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