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To think this is unfair? Covid related

113 replies

Smokedcheesyballs · 13/06/2024 18:47

I work in a small environment and on Monday one colleague came in saying she had Covid. She did not look well and said she felt awful. A few of the staff felt that it was unethical that she was in work and potentially spreading a highly contagious virus. She did not wear a face mask.
On Tuesday I came home feeling unwell so did a test and it was positive. I have been feeling terrible and not been in work. I get the impression my boss thinks I'm slacking but I don't think I should be in.
To make matters worse I have now passed Covid onto my husband who is a very vunerable patient (has neuroendocrine cancer).
Basically am trying to ask AIBU thinking that said colleague should not have been a martyr (not sure if correct use of the word) by coming into work not to let the boss down???, and in doing so unnecessarily spreading the virus?|

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Cityandmakeup · 16/06/2024 19:34

Anyone who defends this college is a horrible person

BobbyBiscuits · 16/06/2024 19:49

It does seem weird to physically come in and announce you have an illness that nearly wiped out the planet a couple of years ago.
I'm guessing the boss puts pressure on people to attend regardless of illness if they have deadlines to meet.
I used to work in a building where my floor had upto 80 people, I also interacted with another 50 or so. I was constantly sick, infections everywhere, costocondritis for 8 weeks at a time, dental problems, asthma...this was before COVID. Offices are just toxic places, there's always at least one deathly sick person in, for financial reasons mainly.

Starlightstarbright3 · 16/06/2024 19:52

Cityandmakeup · 16/06/2024 19:34

Anyone who defends this college is a horrible person

I was off sick for a week with Covid a few months ago… I was definitely not well enough to even drive never mind work. That said it is still held against in terms of sickness record ..

I also lost 2 days pay ..

I also was 20 cm away ( part of my job ) who afterwards informed me he had whooping cough.. that was more selfish .. it litterally could have waited .. …

there is a lot of pressure to attend work no matter how ill .. financial and from the company

DaizyDee · 17/06/2024 16:04

Boomer55 · 15/06/2024 16:50

My vulnerable husband was fully vaccinated, caught it last year, and died from it. 🤷‍♀️

I'm so sorry for your lose. And sorry that you're having to deal with people pretending Covid is a cold when your husband literally lost his life to this.

Tomatina · 17/06/2024 16:18

The really disgraceful thing here is that there are some employers bullying sick employees into work by 'disciplining' them if they take too much time off sick (what is 'too much'?) or not paying them sick pay so they have to come in to keep food on the table.

Nobody should come to work if they are ill, especially not if it is an infectious disease. The only exception would be a mild cold. Covid is not mild for many people, and is life- threatening for some.

Whiskeywithoutice · 17/06/2024 16:44

Covid has never really gone away or ceased to be a threat to individuals but many people are pretending it has. About a 100 people a day die in the UK with Covid on the death certificate and each of those deaths was a tragedy for a family. My son who is a medical student used to moonlight in A & E doing clerical type work admitting and discharging people, taking their symptoms etc. He wore a top quality mask at all times. It protected him and the patients. He is baffled at colleagues who contract Covid multiple times because they don't wear a mask or at least not a good quality one. He has seen young people with heart damage from Covid. He had it once a long time ago and he's more vaccinated than usual because of his job but he doesn't want another bout. I unashamedly wear a mask in crowded situations, shopping and entering and exiting the work building by lift and, if I am not masked I try to keep at least 3 feet away from people.
@Boomer55 I am so sorry for your loss. It is very unfair.

Motheranddaughter · 17/06/2024 16:46

Staying home with Covid is finished

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/06/2024 16:50

EasterIssland · 13/06/2024 18:54

I really doubt you got it from them. It takes more than a day to get ill. I hope your husband feels well and doesn’t have many symptoms. This is what the vaccines are for. So vulnerable people don’t get really affected.

im sorry but I’m going to say yabu. We are not in 2020 anymore

I didn’t go out for a fortnight,

Went to a concert. Tested positive the next morning.

No one in my house had it. Both times I’ve had it it’s been after little contact then a positive test result the next day after going somewhere.

Ive now had severe long covid for a year. Vaccines don’t seem to do much for that.

GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 17/06/2024 19:44

AmelieTaylor · 15/06/2024 17:54

@GlitteryUnicornSparkles

that is a disgusting policy, but especially when you work with vulnerable people. Can you report them to a higher authority!!

Disgusting or not they are following the official guidance. The only exemption to symptomatic testing is for those who are eligible for specific Covid-19 treatment. For the most part it’s treated the same as any other respiratory illness now. If you have a high temp and are too ill to work the advice is to stay home, however if you are well enough you are told you should attend work. Lots of work places have restrictions on absence that don’t allow for you to be off every-time you have a bit of a sniffle.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 18/06/2024 11:10

GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 17/06/2024 19:44

Disgusting or not they are following the official guidance. The only exemption to symptomatic testing is for those who are eligible for specific Covid-19 treatment. For the most part it’s treated the same as any other respiratory illness now. If you have a high temp and are too ill to work the advice is to stay home, however if you are well enough you are told you should attend work. Lots of work places have restrictions on absence that don’t allow for you to be off every-time you have a bit of a sniffle.

Except 3 million have long Covid from this policy.

IBegYourBiggestPardon · 18/06/2024 12:04

@Tomatina no mine was definitely not mild the second time round. I could barely get out of bed the first 5 days and could just about manage them short walk from my bedroom to the bathroom.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 18/06/2024 13:27

This morning, having got up and got dressed - which took a while and involved a lot of sitting down - I went and found extra loo rolls to put in our bathroom. Having done this, I needed to have a sit down to catch my breath and rest before I could go downstairs.

This is the joy of long covid.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 18/06/2024 13:32

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 18/06/2024 13:27

This morning, having got up and got dressed - which took a while and involved a lot of sitting down - I went and found extra loo rolls to put in our bathroom. Having done this, I needed to have a sit down to catch my breath and rest before I could go downstairs.

This is the joy of long covid.

This is why l can only shower every other day. I have to rest before and rest an hour after. And then I’m exhausted all day,

Yes the joys of long Covid. Doing toilet rolls would wipe me out. Even finding them would be too much,

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 18/06/2024 13:33

I am so sorry you are going through this too, @ArseInTheCoOpWindow.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 18/06/2024 13:38

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 18/06/2024 13:33

I am so sorry you are going through this too, @ArseInTheCoOpWindow.

It’s shit isn’t it?

Thrn people coming on saying ‘it’s just a cold’

They should spend a day in my life. Dd got tickets to see Taylor Swift last year. I was meant to be going. Could hardly get out of bed,

But l must remember it’s just a cold and I’m obviously doing something wrong….

My car has sat on the drive unused for a yeat

Godnotthisagain · 18/06/2024 23:52

Covid is not really any different to any other illness nowadays. Nobody I know would bother testing and you'd (rightly IMO) get laughed as at paranoid and a bit unhinged if you wore a mask.

However, it's not right to go into work (or any other close contact) environment if you're ill. You feel like some kind of hero getting your work done but all you do is make more staff sick and then they go off, or reduce productivity. Just stay home and get better. SO YANBU at all. Your boss should realise this.

I employ people and I get proper cross if they come in and infect me or my other staff. I'd much rather pay someone a couple of days sick pay.

blondieminx · 18/06/2024 23:54

Ponderingwindow · 13/06/2024 18:58

My workplace bans people from coming into work sick for precisely this reason. It doesn’t have to be Covid, just any communicable illness and you have to stay home.

it’s better for keeping the workforce healthy, protects vulnerable employees, and it protects people with vulnerable family members. They basically have my undying loyalty because of this policy and the fact that I have a permanently vulnerable household member.

I wish everywhere was like this. Ridiculous that public health has been trashed the way it has since “freedom day”.

DaizyDee · 19/06/2024 15:18

Godnotthisagain · 18/06/2024 23:52

Covid is not really any different to any other illness nowadays. Nobody I know would bother testing and you'd (rightly IMO) get laughed as at paranoid and a bit unhinged if you wore a mask.

However, it's not right to go into work (or any other close contact) environment if you're ill. You feel like some kind of hero getting your work done but all you do is make more staff sick and then they go off, or reduce productivity. Just stay home and get better. SO YANBU at all. Your boss should realise this.

I employ people and I get proper cross if they come in and infect me or my other staff. I'd much rather pay someone a couple of days sick pay.

Have you read even one of the many posts here detailing how Long Covid has ruined our lives? Apparently not. Covid is not mild as long as it's still disabling people by the thousands. It might even get you next time

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 19/06/2024 15:33

Godnotthisagain · 18/06/2024 23:52

Covid is not really any different to any other illness nowadays. Nobody I know would bother testing and you'd (rightly IMO) get laughed as at paranoid and a bit unhinged if you wore a mask.

However, it's not right to go into work (or any other close contact) environment if you're ill. You feel like some kind of hero getting your work done but all you do is make more staff sick and then they go off, or reduce productivity. Just stay home and get better. SO YANBU at all. Your boss should realise this.

I employ people and I get proper cross if they come in and infect me or my other staff. I'd much rather pay someone a couple of days sick pay.

Please just fuck off. Covid is completely different.

I’m too ill to leave the house after a year of long Covid.

Olease just go away.

theowlwhisperer · 19/06/2024 16:01

Carock · 15/06/2024 21:10

testing isn’t stupid. I test. I’m not going to compromise my vulnerable colleagues health, or her very old aged mother.

to echo the poster a few comments previous, your test wouldn’t show positive after being in contact with someone less than 24 hours previous. In every case I’ve had, it’s taken at least 2 days minimum but 3 at the most. I have the pain of teaching adults who seem to not care if they are showing symptoms. I’m glad their class seems to be more important than the health of myself and my vulnerable child, and my self employed income.🙄

Edited

It is stupid, or at least pointless, when you ignore the test results for a start. What is the point of testing then?

I also disagreeing with being fixated with "covid". Even if you don't have "covid", and you are showing symptoms of something, you are still dangerous for vulnerable people.

So either everyone stays home until they are symptoms free - which wouldn't remove the time they are contagious pre-symptom but would lower the numbers, or we just carry on as normal.

In an ideal world, it would be blissful to stay home when we are not feeling great, and we would have all access to medical care when we need it. That's not the world we live in though, and we are still luckier than most.

Evilspiritgin · 19/06/2024 16:31

My mum was left with problems after a virus, it was the early 80s, I think that these problems lasted just over a year before they slowly started disappearing.

i work with some vulnerable people , the only difference is we work in a supermarket, people cough, splutter and sneeze at us all day , without a single thought or apology , most people just look down their noses

Mischance · 19/06/2024 22:16

The whole thing is unclear at the moment.

I have covid and - as I said above - I only know this because I rested because my GD is immune-compromised. However, once I was in possession of that fact, I really felt I could not see my friend who is on chemo, or my other friend who is on immune suppression therapy. I first tested positive 12 days ago and still am.

And I declared the problem to the surgery where I was supposed to be having an ECG, and they told me not to come. I was having this test to decide whether I can continue with one of my heart meds, which is about to run out (and I am about to go away). So this left me in a fix as I would have to suddenly stop it - I needed to speak to a doctor who could advise if this is OK to do. Surgery has no appointments (not even phone calls) for weeks, so they passed me on to a private health care provider who they use. After several calls, and waiting for calls back - the usual stuff - it turns out that the private provider gave the surgery a bollocking for refusing to do the ECG because they cannot turn you away if 5 days or more have passed since the first positive test.

I am now waiting to hear from the surgery .............

And even if I get the ECG, they will say that a doctor cannot see the result and let me know about the meds for a week, and then the surgery (dispensing) will not have the neds there and will have to order them in. I will be back from my holiday by the time all that happens and off the drugs for best part of a week.

Maddy70 · 19/06/2024 22:41

Boomer55 · 15/06/2024 16:50

My vulnerable husband was fully vaccinated, caught it last year, and died from it. 🤷‍♀️

I am so sorry. How truly awful that must be for you

Maddy70 · 19/06/2024 22:41

Boomer55 · 15/06/2024 16:50

My vulnerable husband was fully vaccinated, caught it last year, and died from it. 🤷‍♀️

I am so sorry. How truly awful that must be for you

Motheranddaughter · 19/06/2024 22:47

I am not testing and just do what I always did
Stay home if I am feeling ill
But can understand that if you are not getting paid if off sick why you might go in