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nursery opening hours

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scottishgal09 · 12/06/2024 22:58

I need to go back to work so will soon be putting my 9 month old in nursery, only thing is that the earliest I can find any nursery open is 7 am to 7 pm. The 7 pm closing time is fine but I really find I need a opening time of 6 pm. I also work Saturday mornings so need something that is open 6 days. Start time should be at least 6:00 pm but I struggle to find this. Do these type of nursery’s exist? What are the opening and closing hours for your nursery’s? Why don’t nursery’s take into account that some parents need to work 6 days 🤨?

OP posts:
Seagrassbasket · 15/06/2024 07:34

Didimum · 14/06/2024 10:34

She's not asking about how to reduce time. She's not asking about nursery impacts on children. She's asking about nursery opening times.

So if I asked for advice on the safest way to drug my child so he didn’t wake me up at 5am every morning that would be ok and people should just advise on the drug rather than telling me this is a terrible idea?
Or as in another thread recently - advising a mother who’s been ‘warned’ by her nursery setting that her child appears neglected as she isn’t clean enough that it’s all fine and she’s doing a great job and to ignore the haters?

I know you’re going to immediately come back and say this is a very different scenario and this examples are ridiculous- but the point is most people have a strong reaction when they feel a child is going to be harmed by something. It’s how we keep children safe. Not reacting when we have concerns about a child can lead to tragic outcomes.

Of course it doesn’t sound like this baby needs safeguarding and I don’t agree with some of the personal attacks. But most people are going to have a reaction to a 9month old spending that much time in a group setting.

SackofSweets · 15/06/2024 08:00

Blondeshavemorefun · 14/06/2024 17:02

60hrs childcare is a lot but equally I've worked 7-7 5 days a week so 60hrs as a nanny

Child was not damaged as just meant had another person To love and play with

Stopping the Saturday am would help

A nanny is different as you have one person and so an opportunity to form a bond. A ratio of 1-4 in nursery and inevitably different staff members dealing with them. A nanny is akin to a grandparent IMO.

Didimum · 15/06/2024 08:29

Seagrassbasket · 15/06/2024 07:34

So if I asked for advice on the safest way to drug my child so he didn’t wake me up at 5am every morning that would be ok and people should just advise on the drug rather than telling me this is a terrible idea?
Or as in another thread recently - advising a mother who’s been ‘warned’ by her nursery setting that her child appears neglected as she isn’t clean enough that it’s all fine and she’s doing a great job and to ignore the haters?

I know you’re going to immediately come back and say this is a very different scenario and this examples are ridiculous- but the point is most people have a strong reaction when they feel a child is going to be harmed by something. It’s how we keep children safe. Not reacting when we have concerns about a child can lead to tragic outcomes.

Of course it doesn’t sound like this baby needs safeguarding and I don’t agree with some of the personal attacks. But most people are going to have a reaction to a 9month old spending that much time in a group setting.

I know you’re going to immediately come back and say this is a very different scenario and this examples are ridiculous

Why even bother typing them out then? No, it’s categorically not the same. You can try to dress up bullying as ‘concern’ all you like, but it isn’t going to wash.

Didimum · 15/06/2024 08:33

Needanewname42 · 14/06/2024 23:46

My nanny worked 7am-7pm 5 days a week for her previous family. I also interviewed one who worked 5am-6pm 5 days a week for a single mother. Yes, nannies like this do exist for specialist roles.

Aye and its not hard to imagine why.both those nannies were back in the job market.

One was back in the job market because she’d taken extended maternity leave and the other ended up staying at her 5am-6pm role.

Greenlittecat · 15/06/2024 08:37

Didimum · 15/06/2024 08:29

I know you’re going to immediately come back and say this is a very different scenario and this examples are ridiculous

Why even bother typing them out then? No, it’s categorically not the same. You can try to dress up bullying as ‘concern’ all you like, but it isn’t going to wash.

This thread isn't just aimed at you, you know? I know for some bizarre reason you have taken to posting as if you are the OP but I found @Seagrassbasket post interesting to read.

The only one who shouldn't bother posting is you, seeing as you have so spectacularly missed the point people are making and are answering questions as if you know the OP personally.

HandsDown84 · 15/06/2024 08:45

Honestly it's the not really the working hours bit for me, it's more the posts afterwards where the OP says she works 2 jobs otherwise she "couldn't afford nursery fees". She also says she wouldn't have family look after the baby long term as they're not well educated or trained in childcare! It's not supposed to be some kind of early version of private school.

Didimum · 15/06/2024 08:47

Greenlittecat · 15/06/2024 08:37

This thread isn't just aimed at you, you know? I know for some bizarre reason you have taken to posting as if you are the OP but I found @Seagrassbasket post interesting to read.

The only one who shouldn't bother posting is you, seeing as you have so spectacularly missed the point people are making and are answering questions as if you know the OP personally.

Nope. I just think bullying is despicable and I’m not about to turn a blind eye to it. Think of that what you will, it doesn’t really concern me.

Greenlittecat · 15/06/2024 08:49

Didimum · 15/06/2024 08:47

Nope. I just think bullying is despicable and I’m not about to turn a blind eye to it. Think of that what you will, it doesn’t really concern me.

That an interesting choice of word coming from you.

Like I told you two days ago, go outside get some fresh air and maybe try talking to people in real life.

Its just getting embarrassing now.

Didimum · 15/06/2024 08:49

HandsDown84 · 15/06/2024 08:45

Honestly it's the not really the working hours bit for me, it's more the posts afterwards where the OP says she works 2 jobs otherwise she "couldn't afford nursery fees". She also says she wouldn't have family look after the baby long term as they're not well educated or trained in childcare! It's not supposed to be some kind of early version of private school.

There have been several people in this thread who said they would opt for nursery care over grandparents. The EYFS curriculum is a sound one, and nurseries are judged on having a robust one. Some grandparents are happy to let children look at screens all day.

Didimum · 15/06/2024 08:51

Greenlittecat · 15/06/2024 08:49

That an interesting choice of word coming from you.

Like I told you two days ago, go outside get some fresh air and maybe try talking to people in real life.

Its just getting embarrassing now.

It’s embarrassing if I feel embarrassed. Which I absolutely do not. I don’t find what you think of my responses important.

Greenlittecat · 15/06/2024 08:55

Didimum · 15/06/2024 08:51

It’s embarrassing if I feel embarrassed. Which I absolutely do not. I don’t find what you think of my responses important.

Thats nice sweetie. I absolutely believe you. Like you so rudely said to another poster - why bother typing it out?

HandsDown84 · 15/06/2024 08:56

Didimum · 15/06/2024 08:49

There have been several people in this thread who said they would opt for nursery care over grandparents. The EYFS curriculum is a sound one, and nurseries are judged on having a robust one. Some grandparents are happy to let children look at screens all day.

Yes, people make necessary choices about childcare for the hours they work to pay the bills/save/keep their career going, or do some days for socialisation. Who works an extra job to afford extra hours at nursery because home is "boring"?

Shinyandnew1 · 15/06/2024 08:56

HandsDown84 · 15/06/2024 08:45

Honestly it's the not really the working hours bit for me, it's more the posts afterwards where the OP says she works 2 jobs otherwise she "couldn't afford nursery fees". She also says she wouldn't have family look after the baby long term as they're not well educated or trained in childcare! It's not supposed to be some kind of early version of private school.

Exactly, this is the odd part. I can understand that people need to work long hours to pay the mortgage/rent/bills so have to put their child in nursery/childminder/with a nanny. Lots of people do this-many people I know who use full time nursery hate it though, and wish they had the option to spend more time with their children.

This OP is different though and seems to be coming at it backwards. They feel that a nursery is actually the BEST place for their child to be? Much better than being ‘bored at home’ with her or unstimulated at a childminder. She is then working 2 jobs, as is her husband, in order to put their child into nursery as many hours as possible, because it’s the best place for them to be.

That’s what I find incredibly strange. I think it’s really sad the OP thinks their child will be bored at home and would probably benefit from talking this over with someone to unpick why.

HandsDown84 · 15/06/2024 08:58

Shinyandnew1 · 15/06/2024 08:56

Exactly, this is the odd part. I can understand that people need to work long hours to pay the mortgage/rent/bills so have to put their child in nursery/childminder/with a nanny. Lots of people do this-many people I know who use full time nursery hate it though, and wish they had the option to spend more time with their children.

This OP is different though and seems to be coming at it backwards. They feel that a nursery is actually the BEST place for their child to be? Much better than being ‘bored at home’ with her or unstimulated at a childminder. She is then working 2 jobs, as is her husband, in order to put their child into nursery as many hours as possible, because it’s the best place for them to be.

That’s what I find incredibly strange. I think it’s really sad the OP thinks their child will be bored at home and would probably benefit from talking this over with someone to unpick why.

Edited

Thank you! Put more eloquently than I was able to.

Needanewname42 · 15/06/2024 09:29

HandsDown84 · 15/06/2024 08:45

Honestly it's the not really the working hours bit for me, it's more the posts afterwards where the OP says she works 2 jobs otherwise she "couldn't afford nursery fees". She also says she wouldn't have family look after the baby long term as they're not well educated or trained in childcare! It's not supposed to be some kind of early version of private school.

Yes they are both working 2 jobs. Both working crazy hours.

It's almost like the Op thinks someone else will do a better job of raising her child than she will herself.

Ops not coming back.
But she mentioned her husbands family in Thailand I wonder what the culture is there?

Needanewname42 · 15/06/2024 09:54

@Shinyandnew1yes it doesn't make any sense.
Almost like she wants to hot house the baby in a nursery, without realising the baby needs down time.
I'm sure Op can read her baby stories as well as a nursery teacher. Count stairs. Point out shapes, build blocks, etc etc.

She mentioned not being a native Scot I'm guessing she has a two languages. If she and DH don't spend enough time with the baby the baby will not be able to learn that other language.

Shinyandnew1 · 15/06/2024 10:02

Needanewname42 · 15/06/2024 09:54

@Shinyandnew1yes it doesn't make any sense.
Almost like she wants to hot house the baby in a nursery, without realising the baby needs down time.
I'm sure Op can read her baby stories as well as a nursery teacher. Count stairs. Point out shapes, build blocks, etc etc.

She mentioned not being a native Scot I'm guessing she has a two languages. If she and DH don't spend enough time with the baby the baby will not be able to learn that other language.

‘Hot-housing’ would also fit in with the constant references to doctors. Perhaps the OP feels that paying top-whack for as many nursery hours as possible as young as possible, is the first step to securing them a successful career!?

I would suggest some reading around attachment theory, to be honest, Louise Bomber is a good place to start.

SouthLondonMum22 · 15/06/2024 10:56

Shinyandnew1 · 15/06/2024 08:56

Exactly, this is the odd part. I can understand that people need to work long hours to pay the mortgage/rent/bills so have to put their child in nursery/childminder/with a nanny. Lots of people do this-many people I know who use full time nursery hate it though, and wish they had the option to spend more time with their children.

This OP is different though and seems to be coming at it backwards. They feel that a nursery is actually the BEST place for their child to be? Much better than being ‘bored at home’ with her or unstimulated at a childminder. She is then working 2 jobs, as is her husband, in order to put their child into nursery as many hours as possible, because it’s the best place for them to be.

That’s what I find incredibly strange. I think it’s really sad the OP thinks their child will be bored at home and would probably benefit from talking this over with someone to unpick why.

Edited

Mine goes to nursery FT and I don’t hate it. I don’t agree with everything OP has said and I certainly won’t be taking a 2nd job on Saturdays any time soon but I can relate with some of the things she has said.

I do think in the OP’s case that it is largely cultural.

Needanewname42 · 15/06/2024 11:27

@SouthLondonMum22 I don't think there is anything wrong with full-time nursery circa 40 hours.

Ops looking for circa 60 hours, which leaves little time left for both her and DH to see their child. And develop their own relationship.

@Shinyandnew1 yes it would explain the constant references to what do Doctors do.
My limited experience of Doctors they rely on DGP or work part-time.

There is a cultural thing going on here. Except its at complete odds with what UK parents generally want for their children.

Iwasafool · 15/06/2024 14:48

Didimum · 14/06/2024 17:40

Because she will know it does exist and then she can extend/prolong her search. Someone may have said that 'X' chain offer these hours and then she can find her nearest branch of that chain.

You seem to have a real hangup with someone asking a fairly simple question. I'm not sure why.

No you've turned that round, you have an issue with people introducing other issues into a discussion that has very little to offer in advising OP on what is on offer where she lives.

Didimum · 15/06/2024 15:11

Iwasafool · 15/06/2024 14:48

No you've turned that round, you have an issue with people introducing other issues into a discussion that has very little to offer in advising OP on what is on offer where she lives.

You can dress up bullying you all want, it doesn’t wash. If poster’s had been respectful to OP then MN wouldn’t have commented on the thread.

Errors · 15/06/2024 15:52

Iwasafool · 15/06/2024 14:48

No you've turned that round, you have an issue with people introducing other issues into a discussion that has very little to offer in advising OP on what is on offer where she lives.

I agree with this.
This is the internet, after all. You post a question and you’re inviting discussion and the discourse can take many directions and forms.
Arguing about people not replying to the specific question asked is completely pointless.
Of course people are going to say the OP is overdoing it with childcare hours. If someone had posted about the fact that they’ve bought their child a tablet and intend to let them use it for 6 hours a day so can they get some recommendations for good apps or programs to watch would obviously invite comments about that fact that too much screen time is unhealthy. Likewise if someone had posted about wanting to give their kids fast food every night and asking for the best chains to visit. I could draw loads of comparisons.

Iwasafool · 15/06/2024 16:01

Didimum · 15/06/2024 15:11

You can dress up bullying you all want, it doesn’t wash. If poster’s had been respectful to OP then MN wouldn’t have commented on the thread.

I think you are bullying me.

CandidHedgehog · 15/06/2024 16:05

I agree with @FlayedAbout . Also, she chose to post in AIBU (rather than a board aimed at childcare or even work) with her question apparently being:

AIBU to want a 6 day a week, 12/13 hour a day nursery (or at least that’s how I read it).

People have replied to say it is unreasonable and why. That’s what the OP has asked them to do. If she doesn’t like the answers she is getting, maybe she needs to ask herself why the majority of posters agree this is an unreasonable requirement.

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