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nursery opening hours

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scottishgal09 · 12/06/2024 22:58

I need to go back to work so will soon be putting my 9 month old in nursery, only thing is that the earliest I can find any nursery open is 7 am to 7 pm. The 7 pm closing time is fine but I really find I need a opening time of 6 pm. I also work Saturday mornings so need something that is open 6 days. Start time should be at least 6:00 pm but I struggle to find this. Do these type of nursery’s exist? What are the opening and closing hours for your nursery’s? Why don’t nursery’s take into account that some parents need to work 6 days 🤨?

OP posts:
Didimum · 13/06/2024 15:20

123FirstBabyDumbo · 13/06/2024 15:16

Plenty of us work long hours and have big careers, OP. But no one puts their child in nursery 70 hours a week. No one. Kids need down time, they need time at home and 1 on 1 time.

People with your kind of working hours get a family member or, if that's not possible (I am immigrant myself so that's not possible), they get a nanny.

If you're in London, for those kind of hours, a nanny is not that much more expensive, maybe an extra 10k /year (which should not be a lot for a couple working 80hrs a week).

She's not looking for 70hrs a week. She's looking for 6-5 and Saturday morning.

Lavenderflower · 13/06/2024 15:22

The earliest most nursery open is 7am. 6am to 7 pm is a long day for most children. A nanny may be better.

Iwasafool · 13/06/2024 15:23

scottishgal09 · 13/06/2024 14:16

Yes we waited a long time to have this baby, we waited until we had good jobs with good pay. I guess everybody who use full time nursery including drs who work long hours and use nursery’s didn’t want there children either. That’s a horrible thing to say. People telling me to put my child up for adoption, why?

If you have such good jobs with good pay why do you both need 2 jobs? Maybe you need some advice about good jobs and pay.

NamingConundrum · 13/06/2024 15:23

My own child was full time nursery, but DH and I shift it so I'd start work 7:30/8am so can finish at 4pm to pick baby up after second nap to have time before bed at 7:30. DH would spend time with baby on morning, play, breakfast etc, drop off 9:30ish and could work 9:30/10 until 6ish, back for kiss/cuddle before bed. Meant baby in nursery like 9:30-4:30 which worked out more like 35 hours a week, and at the beginning almost half of that was naps!

Annettecurtaintwitcher · 13/06/2024 15:26

I’m all for working and nursery, both DH and I work full time and used nursery care which we were very happy with but 55 hours plus a week is too much IMO. You will have to get them up at 5 in the morning and then only see them for an hour before bed in the evening :(
One (or both) of you will have to rethink your hours.

fitzwilliamdarcy · 13/06/2024 15:27

scottishgal09 · 13/06/2024 12:10

Caring and loving is the same thing, if you care for someone you love them. I guess everybody should just give up jobs they have worked hard for so they can stay home and collect benefits like has been suggested to me.

So the nurses who looked after me when I had surgery loved me, did they? Did they 'eck. They provided an appropriate standard of care to ensure I recovered. That's very different from loving someone, ffs.

GlennCloseButNoCigar · 13/06/2024 15:29

Didimum · 13/06/2024 14:41

Nannies are not required to have any childcare qualifications – nor safeguarding nor SEND training. The majority don't unless they have previously worked in a nursery.

I’m aware. I was referring to a previous comment from OP re staff skills and quals at a nursery.

Feelsodrained · 13/06/2024 15:29

Wtf at suggestions to send the child to Thailand to be raised by relatives just because the OP essentially wants an extra half day of childcare 😮

Some parents I know have a long commute so actually spend about the same amount of time that the OP will with their children once you factor that in. Unless the child sitting in its car seat counts as quality time.

I think there’s an element of snobbery here too.

OP if your DH’s mum can come over and stay with you that sounds like a great solution to your problem.

scottishgal09 · 13/06/2024 15:32

Iaskedyouthrice · 13/06/2024 15:18

Can baby go to Thailand? Is there more family over there?
The problem is, for the first 6 months+ your child will pick up every germ known to mankind, some unknown too. That is hard on people with more flexible hours and lots of family support, it will be impossible for you. Then there's school and with that comes the holidays and there's lots of them, though i suppose you could find decent wrap around care that also covers holidays.
You won't get anywhere that opens before 7. Round here it's mostly 7.30.
Most of the people I work with who were born elsewhere, tend to send their kids to family in their home country for holidays over a week long.

I dont think there's a solution for this OP. Are you in your chosen career? Is your DH? One of you may need to retrain and find something family friendly. That's what I did many moons ago because I wasn't too fussed. Something worth thinking about long term.

I would look into sending baby to Thailand where they will be brought up with family, it will be better for them with regards to forming attachments. Due to the lack of flexibility both yours and DH's job allows. This is normal in some cultures.

Thank-you this is a option but it is better for child to be in nursery for them to develop. In my country she will be home with my husband’s mother and family only. They are not trained to look after baby’s. They do not have a good education. Yes nursery will be expensive but for my child’s benefit it is better. We are willing to work hard and pay. Doctor’s do this, so can I. It’s about sacrificing for your child.

OP posts:
Iaskedyouthrice · 13/06/2024 15:33

Wtf at suggestions to send the child to Thailand to be raised by relatives just because the OP essentially wants an extra half day of childcare

This is perfectly normal in some cultures. I have worked with women who's children live on another continent. Please don't insult or judge that choice. It is very ignorant.

PigeonPigPie · 13/06/2024 15:35

I'm so baffled by why OP thinks a baby is better off in nursery than with family. OP, do some actual research and you'll find outcomes are better for infants and young children who are at home with a responsive caregiver, not in nursery. You seem to think nursery is going to be an environment that turns them into a genius - it isn't.

Marblessolveeverything · 13/06/2024 15:35

@scottishgal09 why are you comparing everything to doctors? Doctors tend to have partners outside of the sector. They have the money to pay nanny so children can be in their home. I think you may have an inaccurate idea of doctors as my experience of them as parents doesn't involve 80+ childcare.

Iaskedyouthrice · 13/06/2024 15:36

scottishgal09 · 13/06/2024 15:32

Thank-you this is a option but it is better for child to be in nursery for them to develop. In my country she will be home with my husband’s mother and family only. They are not trained to look after baby’s. They do not have a good education. Yes nursery will be expensive but for my child’s benefit it is better. We are willing to work hard and pay. Doctor’s do this, so can I. It’s about sacrificing for your child.

Yes OP I did think that when you wrote about what you liked about nursery. You can do it and you will. It's hard but it gets easier I promise.

Do have a think about the career though, I ended up doing something completely different and I love it AND a few years down the line it's better paid. Good luck 💐

PigeonPigPie · 13/06/2024 15:36

Oh and, I work with doctors. All the female doctors I work with went part time and put their children in nursery the minimum possible, because they understand it isn't actually the best environment for their children to be it.

Feelsodrained · 13/06/2024 15:37

Iaskedyouthrice · 13/06/2024 15:33

Wtf at suggestions to send the child to Thailand to be raised by relatives just because the OP essentially wants an extra half day of childcare

This is perfectly normal in some cultures. I have worked with women who's children live on another continent. Please don't insult or judge that choice. It is very ignorant.

Yes I am aware of that, usually driven by the grinding poverty of the parent if they were to raise the child themselves. It is not the norm for a child born in the UK to be sent to Thailand to be raised and I’m sure the OP would far rather give up her job than do that. Plus in terms of opportunities for the child, that does not seem like a good idea. Not ignorant, just realistic. And also can’t understand how people think being in childcare for an extra half day will cause irreparable damage to the child but being sent half way across the world and separated from their parents will be fine.

Iaskedyouthrice · 13/06/2024 15:42

Feelsodrained · 13/06/2024 15:37

Yes I am aware of that, usually driven by the grinding poverty of the parent if they were to raise the child themselves. It is not the norm for a child born in the UK to be sent to Thailand to be raised and I’m sure the OP would far rather give up her job than do that. Plus in terms of opportunities for the child, that does not seem like a good idea. Not ignorant, just realistic. And also can’t understand how people think being in childcare for an extra half day will cause irreparable damage to the child but being sent half way across the world and separated from their parents will be fine.

Read the OP's response to me please.
The women I speak of earn the same as me and their children were born here. It is a practical solution to some issues they face. Some of them want their children to be brought up like they were. There's MANY different reasons not just poverty ffs. Culturally, for them, it is a totally normal thing to do.

Lb603 · 13/06/2024 15:42

I’m really struggling to see why you think this is ok? You also seem unwilling to take any of the advice provided onboard. You’re not finding those hours for nursery staff as they are not ‘normal’ working hours. Why did you have a child if you can only see or spend time with it 1 day a week? Your child’s sleep would be disrupted daily for you to take them to nursery?

6am - 5pm 6days a week is too long for a baby to be in childcare. Have you visited nurseries? Yes the staff are qualified and at times brilliant, but there are also lots of very young workers who don’t have children themselves, and the ratios are also not 121 - so your baby will spend time exploring their room by themself.

i honestly think you need to look into either hiring a nanny so your baby can receive the 121 care they need at that young age, or one of you changing jobs to one that allows there to be at-least one present parent in the child’s life.

most people do go through this struggle- condensing hours etc to fit in with childcare. But most don’t have both parents working 6 day weeks 12 hour shifts starting so early. Perhaps one of you can do a late shift and one does an early?

Blondeshavemorefun · 13/06/2024 15:43

So both are managers in restaurants

Why such an early start ?

You say you want the fun structure children activities of a nursery

But cm do this as well. And more likely to find a cm who will take 6/7am then a nursery opening at 6am

You may find a staff member if very lucky who will come to your house for 6am and then take your child to nursery where she works for 7am but obv need to find the nursery first

A Saturday nanny May the answer if have to work Saturday

Shinyandnew1 · 13/06/2024 15:44

I think the OP believes that nursery is genuinely a better place for a young child to be all week, than anywhere else, so is working as many hours as possible, so they will be in nursery as many hours as possible.

Is that right, @scottishgal09 ?

Didimum · 13/06/2024 15:45

Marblessolveeverything · 13/06/2024 15:35

@scottishgal09 why are you comparing everything to doctors? Doctors tend to have partners outside of the sector. They have the money to pay nanny so children can be in their home. I think you may have an inaccurate idea of doctors as my experience of them as parents doesn't involve 80+ childcare.

Presumably because there are multiple people being derogatory to OP's job on this thread, to the tone of 'What is this amazing job that's so important? Can't be that great with those hours, can it?' – whereas, like it or not, some careers are automatically deemed more worthwhile and with more respect. If OP enjoys her job and enjoys working, no matter what that is, that's all posters need to know, yet they are hounding for more information on its 'worthiness'.

ttcat37 · 13/06/2024 15:46

Would you put a dog in doggy day care for 13 hours a day 6 days a week?

AngelDelightButNotStrawberry · 13/06/2024 15:47

What are you going to do when your child goes to school?

And I’ve never known a nursery open on a weekend.

CannotWaitToBeFree · 13/06/2024 15:47

Childminder every time. You still pay using government vouchers etc

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/06/2024 15:49

Iaskedyouthrice · 13/06/2024 15:33

Wtf at suggestions to send the child to Thailand to be raised by relatives just because the OP essentially wants an extra half day of childcare

This is perfectly normal in some cultures. I have worked with women who's children live on another continent. Please don't insult or judge that choice. It is very ignorant.

Clearly the OP doesn’t want to do it though or that’s what they’d be doing.

it wasn’t suggested to be kind and considerate to OP’s culture. It was suggested as a dig to OP because she wants to use full time nursery plus a Saturday morning.

NasiDagang · 13/06/2024 15:50

Workhardcryharder · 13/06/2024 14:06

With all due respect, she is less likely to be successful in life (whether that be money or happiness) growing up with 2 absent parents.

You are so hung up on the Dr thing. A Drs kid only basically seeing their parents on Sundays would also be judged, would also grow up with attachment issues etc etc. Move on from the bloody Dr thing

It's a cultural thing for OP. They put a lot of emphasis on Dr's and Engineers.