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nursery opening hours

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scottishgal09 · 12/06/2024 22:58

I need to go back to work so will soon be putting my 9 month old in nursery, only thing is that the earliest I can find any nursery open is 7 am to 7 pm. The 7 pm closing time is fine but I really find I need a opening time of 6 pm. I also work Saturday mornings so need something that is open 6 days. Start time should be at least 6:00 pm but I struggle to find this. Do these type of nursery’s exist? What are the opening and closing hours for your nursery’s? Why don’t nursery’s take into account that some parents need to work 6 days 🤨?

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GlennCloseButNoCigar · 13/06/2024 14:34

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news OP but about 70% of the staff in my nursery are down as ‘unqualified’ this means they have no childcare, development, SEND, safeguarding or first aid training. This is fine as long as they’re in the room with a ‘qualified’ member of staff. But with ratios of 1:8 and upwards of 24+ children in each room you’ve no chance of always having eyes and hands on the children at all times. A love in nanny or a childminder is actually your best option here, and it’s the kindest for your child. Why not look at an au pair type situation? That way the child can stay sleeping and be comfortable in their own home.

republicofjam · 13/06/2024 14:36

scottishgal09 · 13/06/2024 14:20

You don’t have to sacrifice anything, you can have a career and a child too. Lots of people do it. There are long waiting lists for good nursery’s. Read some other posts and you will learn something hopefully.

Alternatively you read about child development and attachment and learn something hopefully.

Crapweather · 13/06/2024 14:37

Also OP have you thought about the school holidays every 6 weeks when your DC starts school, how will you manage through those along with your much loved job

LittleTiger007 · 13/06/2024 14:37

Bushmillsbabe · 13/06/2024 14:33

Our circle is nearly all professional couples, and I know no one whose baby does 50 hours a week at nursery.
All (including us) has children early 30's where we were established enough to have leverage to get flexible working patterns, or to afford for 1 parent (not always mum) to go part time. I went to my boss and said 'I would like to work X hours', initial answer was no, my response was 'no problem, please accept my resignation'. And then the requested hours were agreed. If someone is that skilled and valuable then they will do what they need to do to keep them.

Bravo. Same. My husband is the one who’s part time. I sometimes have to travel and he’s then there at home for them. Op is making this an anti women in careers issue. Or then it’s a benefit issue or maybe a ‘you want me to give up my child for adoption’. None of those things have seriously been mooted.

Shes twisting comments and manipulating truths. It’s pointless arguing because she’s made up her mind. I just hope she does her research into attachment disorders.

TealDog · 13/06/2024 14:38

scottishgal09 · 13/06/2024 12:04

Then why work in a nursery if you dont care about the children ? People trust workers in nursery’s with there child and this is the response you get.

I worked in a nursery because I cared about early development and wanted to make sure the youngest of our society had a good standard of care. I cared about the children of course, but I didn’t love them.

BusyCM · 13/06/2024 14:39

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 13/06/2024 14:11

I have skimmed all your posts on this thread, @scottishgal09, but forgive me if I have missed you saying why some sort of hybrid care would not work for you. Eg. a childminder from 6am who will drop your child off at nursery for you at 7am, and who could do Saturdays too - so the bulk of the time would be in the nursery setting, which is your preference, with just a short time elsewhere.

My other thought would be a full time nanny, and asking them to make sure your child goes to lots of groups, where they will have lots of other children and toys to play with.

What childminder is going to do that? Grin

Didimum · 13/06/2024 14:39

LittleTiger007 · 13/06/2024 14:33

Agreed. But one person mentioned that and the op is using that to ignore all the serious comments and concern.
that’s manipulative gaslighting.

I don't think her not agreeing with a nursery being detrimental to her child is casting moral superiority. She is not telling others they should do the same for their children and claiming it is better. She is simply saying this is what she wants to do.

Mosaic123 · 13/06/2024 14:40

Maybe you have a relative that could live with you, free or for very low rent , and take the baby to nursery at 8am before going to work themselves?

They would also be there on Saturday mornings. So they wouldn't be doing much childcare but would be around and your baby could sleep in for a while.

Fetchthevet · 13/06/2024 14:40

What is your second job OP? Would that offer you any flexibility? I think you said your DH has a second job too - could he do any childcare around that?

FaithCharity · 13/06/2024 14:41

Didimum · 13/06/2024 14:39

I don't think her not agreeing with a nursery being detrimental to her child is casting moral superiority. She is not telling others they should do the same for their children and claiming it is better. She is simply saying this is what she wants to do.

Thank you. That's how I am reading the OP's replies too.

NamingConundrum · 13/06/2024 14:41

Most children do 12ish hours at night. E.g. 7-7. You'd be getting baby up early at like 6am, taking them directly to nursery, picking them up 5pmish and you'd basically need to put straight to bed and spend zero time with them. And you want to do this 5.5 days a week?

I get your partner works sat and sunday but shouldn't your partner therefore be off at least 2 days in week to take baby? And you off one? Why can't baby go somewhere for 2/3 weekdays and somewhere just Saturday morning?

Your plan involves you spending literally zero time with your child.

Ingens · 13/06/2024 14:41

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Crapweather · 13/06/2024 14:41

I am only commenting because I feel sorry for your poor baby. Your employer won't even think twice before firing you, it's all business decisions, but your poor DC will miss you every minute of the day, that's the harsh truth. People are trying to explain you that but you don't seem to care. I have been in a position where I had to get rid of contractors within a week and I didn't think twice because that's how businesses work.

Didimum · 13/06/2024 14:41

GlennCloseButNoCigar · 13/06/2024 14:34

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news OP but about 70% of the staff in my nursery are down as ‘unqualified’ this means they have no childcare, development, SEND, safeguarding or first aid training. This is fine as long as they’re in the room with a ‘qualified’ member of staff. But with ratios of 1:8 and upwards of 24+ children in each room you’ve no chance of always having eyes and hands on the children at all times. A love in nanny or a childminder is actually your best option here, and it’s the kindest for your child. Why not look at an au pair type situation? That way the child can stay sleeping and be comfortable in their own home.

Nannies are not required to have any childcare qualifications – nor safeguarding nor SEND training. The majority don't unless they have previously worked in a nursery.

Didimum · 13/06/2024 14:42

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Have you heard of bank holidays and annual leave? The Saturdays are morning only.

FrenchMustard · 13/06/2024 14:43

There are a lot of cruel responses on here, but I agree OP that the type of nursery you are looking for doesn’t exist. Our nursery is 7.30-6 and I know people who’s children do full time hours, my own DD does 7.30-5 4 days a week and I really hate reading these comments that say it’s too much 🙄 my daughter enjoys nursery, being a lockdown baby it’s been great at helping her development. My day off, evenings and weekends are totally dedicated to her.

but honestly I had to drop a day at work because it was just too much. My DH is a pilot so I am largely responsible for childcare due to his working hours, but I was killing myself working full time on top of being a parent as I have no family locally to help. I love my job but something had to give. Do you have any flexibility in your hours? Do you have supportive management? You are legally allowed to request flexible working, in the nicest possible way you are going to end up burnt out trying to do it all.

LlynTegid · 13/06/2024 14:44

Most people do not work six days a week, but many do shifts and work one of them on a Saturday.

Is there not an option for another family member to help on Saturday?

Natsku · 13/06/2024 14:44

That is a lot of hours to be working, even if you do find childcare to cover them surely it won't be long until you suffer burnout?

But why aren't there more nurseries catering to shift workers in the UK? How do those parents manage childcare if they can't afford nannies and don't have family to help out? We have 24 hour nurseries in my country because childcare isn't just for those parents that have the luck to work only dayshifts.

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 13/06/2024 14:44

Crapweather · 13/06/2024 14:41

I am only commenting because I feel sorry for your poor baby. Your employer won't even think twice before firing you, it's all business decisions, but your poor DC will miss you every minute of the day, that's the harsh truth. People are trying to explain you that but you don't seem to care. I have been in a position where I had to get rid of contractors within a week and I didn't think twice because that's how businesses work.

Yep , OP could get hit by a bus and they would replace her within the month.

OP seems utterly obsessed by her job ( I wonder if it even pays that well - she won’t say) though unsure any money would be enough for what she is suggesting.) OP waited ages for a baby but relies on 4 jobs to afford it??? Madness. So much madness here all in one post.

I’m a full time working parent. But I don’t make anywhere near this level of sacrifice.

BurbageBrook · 13/06/2024 14:45

Yeah, I have a professional job that took three degrees to obtain, I have a 10 month old OP, I'm not anti women having careers. But putting a baby in nursery 6 days a week for long hours is just cruel and always going to be detrimental to their development, emotionally speaking.

Shambles123 · 13/06/2024 14:45

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Oh jeez, people still rolling out that old chestnut 12 years after I first saw it on mumsnet. The OP asked for childcare advice, not your opinion.

cloudydays2 · 13/06/2024 14:46

I'm a working parent, I know the struggles and the stress of juggling work life and parenthood and having to put your child into childcare just to make ends meet. This scenario is just not going to work, the amount you will be paying in childcare for 6 days will be ridiculous and just not worth it honestly. I seriously think you need to look at reducing your hours at atleast if that is a possibility.

Needanewname42 · 13/06/2024 14:46

Didimum · 13/06/2024 14:31

No ... 6-5pm, which OP is looking for, is 11 hours a day – many professional working couples utilise 7:30-630, which is also 11 hours. Saturday is morning only, OP has said.

Yeah it's 11 hours nursery care,
12 hours sleep so Op will see child a whole 30mins either side of the day.
15mins commute to and from nursery
1 min zap breakfast / dinner
14mins to eat, and get changed.

It will all be grand. Just super.
I wonder does anyone do boarding schools that include nurseries that would probably work well too. 🤔

FaithCharity · 13/06/2024 14:46

Thank you to all helpful posters- I have to go as very busy -why my long post was unedited- apologies to OP. @scottishgal09

Messagemeback · 13/06/2024 14:47

Op you seem to think you know better than 100s of posters who’ve had kids…

also do you have a plan for when they’re at school? School is exhausting and they need downtime - they have homework, they need reading support. Are you planning to carry on these hours forever more?

also no offense but the job is not so great and well paid if you need a second job each to survive…

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