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nursery opening hours

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scottishgal09 · 12/06/2024 22:58

I need to go back to work so will soon be putting my 9 month old in nursery, only thing is that the earliest I can find any nursery open is 7 am to 7 pm. The 7 pm closing time is fine but I really find I need a opening time of 6 pm. I also work Saturday mornings so need something that is open 6 days. Start time should be at least 6:00 pm but I struggle to find this. Do these type of nursery’s exist? What are the opening and closing hours for your nursery’s? Why don’t nursery’s take into account that some parents need to work 6 days 🤨?

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WhichEllie · 13/06/2024 14:01

I think you’ll struggle to find that in the UK, unfortunately. I’ve noticed that nurseries in the US seem to have moved to wider hours to accommodate different jobs/commutes; two of the ones near me are 5:30 am to 8 pm and 6 am to 9:30 pm, Mon-Sat. Though most people are still using 8 or 9 hours a day, 5 days a week so I’m sure it costs more if you need 6 days or longer days. But the flexibility is there for people who work 6 am to 3 pm or noon to 8 pm or whatever.

Could you pay for someone to come in the morning for 90 minutes or so to get them up, ready, and then take them to nursery when it opens?

LittleTiger007 · 13/06/2024 14:01

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/06/2024 13:44

Did your husband sort out a different career too? If not, did you tell him that he doesn’t have a brain? Or doesn’t it apply to men who have careers?

Women can have careers and children. They shouldn’t have to choose.

Funny. I just said I changed my way of working and my hours, my husband did too. With my same skills I took a big career change and so did he. We now earn a huge amount more for less hours so it was a wise move all around. Different phases of life require a different approach.
this isn’t a male/female thing it’s a parent/non-parent thing

Didimum · 13/06/2024 14:01

AlohaRose · 13/06/2024 13:53

And not for approximately 11 hours per day on 5 days!

If your circle contains professional working couples then you will absolutely find many that utilise nursery from 7:30-630, 5 days a week.

crumblingschools · 13/06/2024 14:01

I suggested one of the parents drop some hours, don’t care either mum or dad.

WithACatLikeTread · 13/06/2024 14:01

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/06/2024 13:59

I agree with you.

Not to mention once you are on benefits, you are beholden to the government and any changes they may put in place. There’s little stability and I don’t agree it’s best for children if parents can otherwise work such as your situation.

I didn't suggest giving up the job but maybe going part time. I wouldn't suggest giving up work like others do on here.

CountryMumof4 · 13/06/2024 14:03

TinkerTiger · 13/06/2024 07:56

I don't know any CMs that would take a child that early either and as a nanny I would charge a high fee to be at work for 6am.

Yes, I imagine you would need to pay extra for those sort of hours. I can't imagine many would be happy to offer them either.

Didimum · 13/06/2024 14:03

Shinyandnew1 · 13/06/2024 13:52

Many people DO use nurseries 5 days a week

But not 6 days, which is what the OP is asking for.

The 6th day is a morning only.

Singersong · 13/06/2024 14:03

I'd love to know what this amazing job is that you will never ever get again and it's so important that you're happy to miss out on the ENTIRE time of your baby/child.

Genuine question - did/do you even want this baby? Because I'm sure there is someone out there who will if you don't.

AlohaRose · 13/06/2024 14:04

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/06/2024 13:59

I agree with you.

Not to mention once you are on benefits, you are beholden to the government and any changes they may put in place. There’s little stability and I don’t agree it’s best for children if parents can otherwise work such as your situation.

Gosh, who knew that the only choice is a binary one - two more than full-time working parents or one working parent and go on benefits? No chance that there are any other options in life at all?

4timesthefun · 13/06/2024 14:04

I’m not going to repeat the same points about opening hours and days, but the OP’s unwillingness to consider an alternative work arrangement or structure of hours made me wonder if planning has been done around unexpected illnesses and absences. OP, your post reads as though you expect to be able to use whatever care full-time, but the reality is that in the first couple of years of childcare there will probably be a LOT of sick days, particularly in winter. My little one currently goes 4 days per week. In the last fortnight she has been well enough to attend 2 of 8 days (it’s winter here). Working out how to cover those situations is important. Often, if daycare notices an issue or sends them home, you are excluded for a further 24hrs. It’s been a bit of a nightmare for us, so it’s worth planning in advance how you will manage those situations.

pinkgin79 · 13/06/2024 14:04

Your child will be up at 5am and asleep by the time you pick them up. Seriously why have a child when you want someone else to bring them up? You'll see your child meaningfully
For 1 1/2 days per week!!

WhySoManySocks · 13/06/2024 14:05

My children were in nursery full time from very young, but this is insane.

Crapweather · 13/06/2024 14:05

You sound very unreasonable. When you don't want to look after your DC even on weekends, how do you expect other strangers/nursery staff to sacrifice their weekend to look after your DC. Having a child and/or a career is a choice and people have to sacrifice something's on the journey, I hope you aren't making the wrong sacrifices.

Workhardcryharder · 13/06/2024 14:06

scottishgal09 · 13/06/2024 13:55

Thank-you for the support. My daughter would be the around the same hours 6 am to 5 pm, M-F. Only difference is Sat morning as well. It is better for her in the future to have us both working to provide everything she needs rather then be on benefits like some suggest. That’s a great example for her. Don’t work hard, give up a good job, and go on benefits lol. Plus nurseries have lots for children to do, the good ones.

I work hard at my job, maybe not doctor or engineer but maybe my daughter can become that if my husband and me work hard and provide her with a good education.

With all due respect, she is less likely to be successful in life (whether that be money or happiness) growing up with 2 absent parents.

You are so hung up on the Dr thing. A Drs kid only basically seeing their parents on Sundays would also be judged, would also grow up with attachment issues etc etc. Move on from the bloody Dr thing

AlohaRose · 13/06/2024 14:06

Didimum · 13/06/2024 14:01

If your circle contains professional working couples then you will absolutely find many that utilise nursery from 7:30-630, 5 days a week.

Yes, my circle contained lots of professional working couples but none who dropped their child at nursery at 6 a.m. or who also needed care on a Saturday! There were some who might have liked it but we all realised that having children came with compromises and funnily enough someone dropping to part-time or working flexibly or doing condensed hours or any of the other solutions did not mean that anyone had to go on benefits as a result.

Caspianberg · 13/06/2024 14:06

It’s not drop all work and go on benefits.

Its why don’t you work 6am-4pm - so dropping just 1hr per day.

And your husband starts later so he can drop 7.30am, then works 8am-8pm 4 days a week for example.

Or a combination, or you both do 4 long days. The nursery long days only needed 3 days if one of you does mon- thurs, and one tues-Fri. Etc etc

Workhardcryharder · 13/06/2024 14:07

Also, how do you expect nursery workers to love spending 6 days a week with your child when don’t even want a full weekend? 😂

LittleTiger007 · 13/06/2024 14:07

BeanThereDoneIt · 13/06/2024 13:46

What a bizarre question. Can you truly not see the difference between 8 hours and 11, on a daily basis, for a very young child??

Also, it’s not ok for doctors to do this. Responses on this thread have nothing to do with snobbery over job roles. They are based on a solid understanding of child development. The hours you want don’t exist for two reasons: very few people need them, and that long in a nursery setting would be detrimental to a child’s development.

You can argue and disagree all you like, and you are obviously free to continue with your current plan. But what a shame that you can’t take on board what is being shared about child development and the reality of nurseries. I say this as someone with two children in nursery settings! They can be wonderful - but I wouldn’t want mine there for the number of hours you’re considering. I’m the last person to want to guilt a mum into compromising their career, but what you’re proposing is so extreme that I really urge you to work with the baby’s father to reduce their time in nursery while they’re so little.

To address your original question though, can I suggest maybe looking for a childminder that does early mornings and Saturdays. They could then drop off at nursery.

Exactly. These opinions are in my case based upon a degree in child development, a masters in child development, 20 years as an early years teacher and as a parent and aunt.
Many others here are also speaking as experienced parents and professionals offering genuine advice and care for this child. We are also many of us female professionals who value our career and so this is not about bashing working women.

Didimum · 13/06/2024 14:09

AlohaRose · 13/06/2024 14:06

Yes, my circle contained lots of professional working couples but none who dropped their child at nursery at 6 a.m. or who also needed care on a Saturday! There were some who might have liked it but we all realised that having children came with compromises and funnily enough someone dropping to part-time or working flexibly or doing condensed hours or any of the other solutions did not mean that anyone had to go on benefits as a result.

I didn't say 6am. I said 7:30-6:30, which is 11 hours per day – which that poster was disputing happens. I also said she will not find a nursery for 6am. How is this reply relevant to anything I have said?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 13/06/2024 14:11

I have skimmed all your posts on this thread, @scottishgal09, but forgive me if I have missed you saying why some sort of hybrid care would not work for you. Eg. a childminder from 6am who will drop your child off at nursery for you at 7am, and who could do Saturdays too - so the bulk of the time would be in the nursery setting, which is your preference, with just a short time elsewhere.

My other thought would be a full time nanny, and asking them to make sure your child goes to lots of groups, where they will have lots of other children and toys to play with.

ExpectoPatronums · 13/06/2024 14:11

I really think you need to re evaluate your plans. I work full time and have used nurseries 8am to 6pm, however to leave your child there 6am to 7pm? You'll never see them during their waking hours at all!!

Didimum · 13/06/2024 14:12

Workhardcryharder · 13/06/2024 14:07

Also, how do you expect nursery workers to love spending 6 days a week with your child when don’t even want a full weekend? 😂

OP really enjoys her job. I am presuming she also assumes that childcare workers enjoy their jobs .... which, funnily enough, would involving loving working with children.

Didimum · 13/06/2024 14:12

ExpectoPatronums · 13/06/2024 14:11

I really think you need to re evaluate your plans. I work full time and have used nurseries 8am to 6pm, however to leave your child there 6am to 7pm? You'll never see them during their waking hours at all!!

She wants to 5pm, not 7pm.

llamajohn · 13/06/2024 14:12

why would you prioritise a job that works shit hours over your baby?

Get a different job, who wants to be working 10-12 hours a day and never see their children???

Crapweather · 13/06/2024 14:14

A nanny can be your only option. But you have to account for the salary for nanny along with pensions and taxes etc.

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