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AIBU?

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Not reporting to police

42 replies

Nevertriedoysters · 12/06/2024 08:51

NC as could be outing
Bit of a story, but cutting long story short
I own a house where 2 of my 3 sons were living and youngest still does , I moved away to look after elderly parent, i was living with elderly parent , house was promised verbally to sons on death of their grandparent as I was promised share of inheritance, in meantime found out eldest sibling owned our parents house by default , but I was still promised share of house as parent requested. Due to family feud Now sibling wants to give her nephews the money to buy house , I got EA involved to value house and signed an agreement ( not intending to tie myself ) But because I told lads going to have to go through estate agent, they have now got funny thinking I wasn't going to sell house to them, They went and changed locks on my house, i went to police to see if I was entitled to change locks they said I own house can do what I like, I could have pressed charges but didn't
My AIBU is I fear they may have done something to locks again and am perfectly in my right to report to police, but can't bring myself to, DP thinks I should and is quite adamant AIBU not to report,

OP posts:
HeHeHeDidIt · 12/06/2024 08:57

Why did you get EA involved and sign paperwork of it now belongs to your sibling?

Catza · 12/06/2024 08:58

Let me see if I got this right. Your sons changed the locks on YOUR property? Damn right they should be reported.
Unless I misunderstood and someone else changed the locks on your parent's property... the story is very confusing.

JurassicFantastic · 12/06/2024 08:59

I really can't follow that. I dont mean to be picky but punctuation might help.

Theunamedcat · 12/06/2024 09:00

Slightly confused here

You own a house and you were promised a share in another house? Which now belongs to someone else so you won't get that house?

Whose house was the estate agent called for?

CleanShirt · 12/06/2024 09:01

While there is legislation around it, it often falls under the civil rather than criminal category -

"Both of you have a right to access and to occupy the property. If only one of you owns the property then the owner is entitled to change the locks. However, where the non-owning person has paid money into the property such as contributing to the purchase price or paying for improvements, they might be able to establish an interest in the property which in turn could mean that they have a right to live there. It would therefore be wise to seek legal advice before changing the locks."

https://www.watson-thomas.co.uk/help-and-advice/28-help-and-advice-separation/185-i-have-separated-from-my-partner-can-i-change-the-locks

Also you don't press charges in the UK, that's down to the police / CPS/

I have separated from my partner – can I change the locks?

I have separated from my partner, can I change the locks? This is a frequently asked question by clients. The answer is that it depends upon the circumstances.

https://www.watson-thomas.co.uk/help-and-advice/28-help-and-advice-separation/185-i-have-separated-from-my-partner-can-i-change-the-locks

AlisonDonut · 12/06/2024 09:03

If you want help you really need to explain what actually happened!

TheCultureHusks · 12/06/2024 09:09

The key thing is that your son alive with you in YOUR house. If they aren’t on the deeds, then NO they can’t change the locks. I assume tues try and argue that they are tenants, as you’ve moved out? As family
members who presumably don’t pay rent they’d also have trouble proving that - I wouldn’t even get into that though, I’d report to police, get the locks opened and move straight back in to put the lid on that one, and just say you’ve always lived there. Them chuck them out!

Carebearsonmybed · 12/06/2024 09:09

Huh?

So confused.

Your sons have locked you out of your house?

Get a locksmith to get you back in then change the locks.

The police have got more important things to do than family disputes over property.

DogInATent · 12/06/2024 09:18

How does the eldest sibling (who's eldest sibling - your brother/sister, or the eldest of your children) end up owning your parents house "by default"?

You fear they may have done something to the locks, but you haven't checked?

We either need a diagram or a lot clearer explanation, as the family relationships and feuding is getting Shakespearean.

Spirallingdownwards · 12/06/2024 09:23

Noone owns a house by default. Your parent either left it to them in the will or they bought it off the parent before they died.

If you own the house where your youngest son has continued to live you still own it and can change the locks back if anyone has changed the locks.

Your post is confusing as it refers to sons and nephews but I think you mean the same people??

Nevertriedoysters · 12/06/2024 21:58

I'm so sorry for my punctuation and not being clearer , some of post isn't really relevant tbh and just confuses Thankyou also to those of you who have replied
My DS owns house that was my elderly parents' I have 2 DS and we were supposed to all have share, DS who owns ( what should be parents' house) seems to think easier to give my share of inheritance to my 2 youngest DS to buy the house I own, instead of just giving to me I know its very complicated.
The issue is though, that while I have been away caring for parent the youngest DS has lived in my house rent free, his DB paying bills, I have been to the house a few times to tidy it up, ( as it was a tip) and removing stuff that was mine, went to it last week and he had changed locks, I got locksmith to change locks but am dreading going to house next time incase DS had got in and changed locks again, as the first time he did it was technically criminal and if again even worse as breaking and entering , DP thinks we have to report to police , as mother I can't bring myself to, So AIBU not to report

OP posts:
CleanShirt · 13/06/2024 00:14

He owns the house, his locks. Please don't bother the police with this.

Catza · 13/06/2024 07:55

CleanShirt · 13/06/2024 00:14

He owns the house, his locks. Please don't bother the police with this.

He doesn’t. OP owns the house.

AlisonDonut · 13/06/2024 07:58

DS - son, sister or sibling?

Who knows?

Theunamedcat · 13/06/2024 08:03

Who owns the parents house son or sibling

Faduckssake · 13/06/2024 08:03

So confused.

Your parents house now belongs to your sister?

Your own house has your son living in it.

Sister giving money from inheritance to your son to buy your house from you.

Your son has changed the locks and locked you out of the house you still own but he is in the process of buying.

Is that correct?

Catza · 13/06/2024 08:04

Nevertriedoysters · 12/06/2024 21:58

I'm so sorry for my punctuation and not being clearer , some of post isn't really relevant tbh and just confuses Thankyou also to those of you who have replied
My DS owns house that was my elderly parents' I have 2 DS and we were supposed to all have share, DS who owns ( what should be parents' house) seems to think easier to give my share of inheritance to my 2 youngest DS to buy the house I own, instead of just giving to me I know its very complicated.
The issue is though, that while I have been away caring for parent the youngest DS has lived in my house rent free, his DB paying bills, I have been to the house a few times to tidy it up, ( as it was a tip) and removing stuff that was mine, went to it last week and he had changed locks, I got locksmith to change locks but am dreading going to house next time incase DS had got in and changed locks again, as the first time he did it was technically criminal and if again even worse as breaking and entering , DP thinks we have to report to police , as mother I can't bring myself to, So AIBU not to report

This is all unnecessarily complicated. Firstly, you lose your inheritance AND are forced to sell your house to your children. Where are you going to live?
You should get your inheritance. Then you can decide what to do with it. Otherwise you are essentially buying a house from yourself so you are now out of money and out of house. It’s some kind of convoluted scam (which your family are trying to pull ?) Say, your inheritance is 50k and your house is 100k. You should end up with 150k in your pocket. But what your DS is proposing, is that you give 50k away which is then used to buy YOUR house, they top it up with another 50k. You now only have 50k in your pocket. You are effectively being swindled out of 100k.
Report the whole lot to the authorities.

Nevertriedoysters · 13/06/2024 08:05

AlisonDonut · 13/06/2024 07:58

DS - son, sister or sibling?

Who knows?

Oh I'm sorry again, problem with abbreviations , first part is sister and second part re MY house is son, ( first post ever, think will be my last )

OP posts:
Garlicker · 13/06/2024 08:07

I'm going to try.

Mum's house

Your parents promised an equal split of their estate between you and two siblings.

However, one of the siblings owns that house.

Your house

Your youngest son lives rent-free in your own house. You haven't been living there.

Your sons have decided to exclude you from your own house, changed the locks.

You got in and installed new locks but are afraid they'll break in and do it again.

Feud

Your siblings are still willing to split your parents' estate three ways?

Is the sibling who owns parental home also the executor?

BUT sibling proposes to give your share directly to your sons.

Sibling wants to do this so your sons can buy your own house from you?

Why the fuck do they want to do that?

More questions

If the above is correct, it's very odd. Where do you live now, and where is your husband?

I really don't think you should let them all trample over you like this, but am curious as to what's motivating them.

AlisonDonut · 13/06/2024 08:07

Nevertriedoysters · 13/06/2024 08:05

Oh I'm sorry again, problem with abbreviations , first part is sister and second part re MY house is son, ( first post ever, think will be my last )

Just explain in words what happened.

Garlicker · 13/06/2024 08:08

Good point, @Catza, it looks very like a scam.

CovertPiggery · 13/06/2024 08:11

AlisonDonut · 13/06/2024 08:07

Just explain in words what happened.

There's no need to be so bloody rude!

Porageeater · 13/06/2024 08:11

I think you need some proper legal advice OP. Your dilemma is about reporting your son to the police? But again some legal advice may help here to plan a way forward.

Dearover · 13/06/2024 08:12

Did your parents sell their house to your sister before they died?

Did your parents leave a will which specifies who receives what?

Why on earth did you tell your children that you would sell your house to them?

What is your husband's role in all of this?

You don't sound very financially astute. Where were you planning to live once your parents had died if you had sold your house to your children?

Faduckssake · 13/06/2024 08:13

If we've understood this right, your inheritance from your parents is being given to your sons instead, so they can use it to buy your house from you. What you SHOULD have is your inheritance AND your house. You are getting nothing more than you already own and they are getting a free house? Why are you allowing this? Presumably the inheritance isn't legally enforceable if your parents didn't leave a will, which is the only reason I can see that they can get away with this? You are losing out hugely and I'd be taking legal advice.

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