Paula Vennells was done the other week, the Post Office Inquiry is now questioning associates and others - thread 3

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A continuation of this thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5081592-paula-vennels-being-questioned-at-the-post-office-inquiry-followed-by-others-thread-2

When the hearings are going on, live-streaming can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/featured

All of the previous hearings can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/videos

Not by the end of today, I'd hope...

It's not the same him not being in the dock physically

Ward is probably planning his summer holiday to a place without an extradition treaty right now.

What a start to the day.

I mean, Graham Ward can't possible think we all bought what he was trying to sell, surely?

"I wasn't deleting the system failure sentence, eventhough I deleted the system failure sentence and provided 3 reasons why the system failure sentence should be deleted"

Bloody hell! I'm so glad I caught that live. What those poor postmasters were up against ... I hope someone's checking that Ward hasn't been trying to contact Gareth Jenkins. (Jenkins is up next week; and it's Jenkins's statement that Ward altered.) I presume that witnesses are not allowed to talk to each other?

Sir Wyn was very dismissive of Graham Ward then at the end of his evidence.

Well that was extremely interesting.

Utterly pathetic drivel being served up as answers to the questions posed to him and factual evidence in front of him. Although he did actually look deeply uncomfortable, as well he should.

Can't remember. What time is the break ending?

10 to, but streaming runs 3 mins later

Is there a complaints procedure that applies to civilian police staff? Asking for a sub-postmaster.

It should be any minute now.

Tony Kearns now. Miss Hodge asking questions for the Inquiry.

Okay guess I'm switching off. I find this woman so damn dry.

So will Beer be on later or?

Kearns appeared before in 2022.

He's former Communications Workers trade union asst. sec., representing Post Office staff. He's now higher in the union.

Andy Fury is the Communications Worker bod with direct responsibility for PO employees.

Kearns knew PO staff were having difficulties with balancing and the issue was introduction of Horizon - an increasing number.

https://www.cwu.org/staff/tony-kearns/

Could someone share a link as to how I find this out?

I've looked at the website and it only shows who's being questioned as opposed to the counsel questioning them, from what I can see

What Ward's evidence suggests, which has been in the air for a long time, is that Gareth Jenkins was not actively seeking to provide perjured evidence for some reason but he was being steered/coerced into it, in some cases as a result of being put under pressure by Post Office, while knowing that pushing back could have caused him problems with his employer.

Jenkins shouldn't have provided perjured evidence but if he is prosecuted it will need to be a case recognising this nuance.

I have come late. Mr Beer is reading out a statement, and keeps referring to Me - is that a time when he questioned the witness earlier?

Yes. I think from here:

Kearns describing the union structure of local, branch, regional (territorial) reps. He feels the structure has been robust, but I think Miss Hodge is querying this.

I'm looking forward to Kay Linell this afternoon.

I believe she worked for free s a forensuc accountant for the Sir Alan Bates and Justice for Sub PostMasters/mistresses.

From all accounts she is a fearsome woman.

Anyone able to assist?

Sir Wyn might indicate who's on this pm when he breaks for lunch.

My guess Quirkyme would be that it's not public knowledge exactly which counsel to the Inquiry is going to be cross-examining a particular witness until the session starts.

Do you mean, if Beer will be back this afternoon?

I'm not sure.
I dont think the Inquiry publish which KC will cross examine each witness.

I've not seen anything.

Jason Beer tends to take the "big" names