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KIT days aren't an advantage if you don't have free childcare?

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DreamyNavyMentor · 09/06/2024 23:19

I've got 9.5 days KIT but no childcare so pointless me doing it. Little one can get the 15 hours in September but childcare is £210 per week (full time).

I earn £31k a year so £2k take home.

Aibu that kit days arent beneficial for single mums or those without help?

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SheilaFentiman · 10/06/2024 10:52

DreamyNavyMentor · 10/06/2024 10:37

Because it's a way to return to work without using holidays.

So I was considering doing them in September before I officially return to work to get the full holiday entitlement.

That isn't what they are for, though.

YellowHairband · 10/06/2024 10:52

Not everything can work for everyone. Don't do them if they won't benefit you - I never did and it didn't make a difference. And I still got promoted on maternity leave.

namestevalian · 10/06/2024 10:53

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 09/06/2024 23:38

Where I work most of the mums on maternity leave bring their babies with them in KIT days. It's really not a problem. I don't know where you work but maybe just ask if you can bring the baby too?

Same here - not unusual at all especially if feeding!

DreamyNavyMentor · 10/06/2024 11:06

SheilaFentiman · 10/06/2024 10:52

That isn't what they are for, though.

Why it? They are used with your manager and I think actually using them the month before I return to work is better for a hand over and to know where company is

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Dragonfly909 · 10/06/2024 11:08

I did some KIT days of just a couple of hours at a stage when my baby would sleep for 3 hours in the buggy in the garden. It didn't have to be a full day and was good for just reminding myself what my job was and reading some emails!

Edited to say I WFH which is obviously a big help.

SheilaFentiman · 10/06/2024 11:10

DreamyNavyMentor · 10/06/2024 11:06

Why it? They are used with your manager and I think actually using them the month before I return to work is better for a hand over and to know where company is

Because they were envisaged (I think) as being a way to keep in touch with work over the 6-12 months that a woman was off, so she wasn't starting from zero on day 1. What you are talking about is not that, but would (if I have understood correctly?) have the same effect as far as the workplace is concerned of finishing ML two weeks early i.e. using 10 KIT days in a row and then returning to work.

If you want to use them in a block like this, then starting at the nursery/childminder 2 weeks earlier is open to you, isn't it?

DreamyNavyMentor · 10/06/2024 11:11

SheilaFentiman · 10/06/2024 10:52

That isn't what they are for, though.

And you tell me what other options there are for mothers to return to work. Settling in days and than full time time childcare is very abrupt for the child imo. I also think it's very abrupt for a mother to have to return to work after having a child and still caring for that child.

So without using your holidays - which are now apparently used to help with your child going to fill time nursery, A new mum is supposed to be smelling of roses the minute she rocks up to work after having an extended period of time of, being a career and being lone.

So I think KiT days would be really beneficial for her to use how she thinks fit as no other options

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SheilaFentiman · 10/06/2024 11:12

What is your proposal to improve the system? I think I must be missing something here.

DreamyNavyMentor · 10/06/2024 11:13

SheilaFentiman · 10/06/2024 11:10

Because they were envisaged (I think) as being a way to keep in touch with work over the 6-12 months that a woman was off, so she wasn't starting from zero on day 1. What you are talking about is not that, but would (if I have understood correctly?) have the same effect as far as the workplace is concerned of finishing ML two weeks early i.e. using 10 KIT days in a row and then returning to work.

If you want to use them in a block like this, then starting at the nursery/childminder 2 weeks earlier is open to you, isn't it?

Than it wouldn't be beneficial for the mum to do that because she wouldn't get pro rata holiday leave. If she's working two weeks full time, not beneficial, but 9 KIT days over a month (4 weeks) will mean she doesn't need to take holidays on the days she's not in work, has a bit of down time and can make sure the child is ok? Plus she doesn't have to attend. Whereby if she ends maternity she has to attend work or ota an absence.

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DreamyNavyMentor · 10/06/2024 11:13

SheilaFentiman · 10/06/2024 11:12

What is your proposal to improve the system? I think I must be missing something here.

Everyone is different Hun

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SheilaFentiman · 10/06/2024 11:17

DreamyNavyMentor · 10/06/2024 11:13

Everyone is different Hun

I am genuinely trying to understand, though for some reason you are being sarcastic at me.

roses2 · 10/06/2024 11:21

I did my KIT days the two weeks before officially going back to work because at this point I had nursery arranged. Can you do this?

So baby born eg 1st March 2023. Kit days last two weeks February 2024 & baby already started nursery. Back at work as FTE 1st March 2024.

Overthebow · 10/06/2024 11:23

DreamyNavyMentor · 10/06/2024 00:07

Nothing is going to come good about going to work for one day a month?

Depends where you work and what your role is. In my role I’m using KIT days to catch up with all my contacts whom I haven’t spoken to since I’ve been on maternity leave. Very important for continuity of the work I’m in charge of and beneficial for me too as I’ll know what I’m coming back to. Some people do a week of KIT days rather then one a month.

Overthebow · 10/06/2024 11:25

KIT days are there to use if you and your work want to and think it will be beneficial. They’re not compulsory so if you don’t think it’ll work for you and you don’t see the value then don’t do them.

SheilaFentiman · 10/06/2024 11:34

So I think KiT days would be really beneficial for her to use how she thinks fit as no other options

But they aren't for a mother to use as she sees fit for settling a child, they are for an employee and employer to agree that it would be 'useful work' for the mother to attend on some days during her maternity leave and be paid as such by the employer.

PeppermintParty · 10/06/2024 11:35

If you are intending to return to work at some point, you will need to find a childminder or nursery, so why don't you just discuss with them if you could do a settling in period where you leave your baby for a day here and there. This introduces the concept to your child that you will be leaving them, but will come back. You can do your KIT days then.

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 10/06/2024 11:37

KIT days are not mandatory. If it doesn't suit you then decline them

SheilaFentiman · 10/06/2024 12:02

It is offered to everyone but not everyone is able to take it.

They aren't offered to everyone. If the employer sees no value in having the employee in for a KIT day, or has a policy that it doesn't ask parents to do KIT days, then the employee can't unilaterally decide to do one.

Pinkcase · 10/06/2024 12:34

you’ll prob have to think if your baby will be ok with you having 5 full days work and how you’ll work that (nursery?).

Err… yeah… that’s what many women have to do in order to pay the bills… working five days isn’t a choice but a necessity.

DreamyNavyMentor · 10/06/2024 12:36

SheilaFentiman · 10/06/2024 11:34

So I think KiT days would be really beneficial for her to use how she thinks fit as no other options

But they aren't for a mother to use as she sees fit for settling a child, they are for an employee and employer to agree that it would be 'useful work' for the mother to attend on some days during her maternity leave and be paid as such by the employer.

Yeah of course..... And thankfully I work for an employer who is great

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DreamyNavyMentor · 10/06/2024 12:37

SheilaFentiman · 10/06/2024 11:17

I am genuinely trying to understand, though for some reason you are being sarcastic at me.

No hun I'm just saying everyone is different

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SheilaFentiman · 10/06/2024 12:41

DreamyNavyMentor · 10/06/2024 12:37

No hun I'm just saying everyone is different

Wow, thanks, that's brand new information.

greglet · 10/06/2024 12:44

I went back to work when DS was nine months old. Did a KIT day a week in the run up (I think I did seven Mondays in a row), which I really enjoyed because it was such a break from routine! It also helped both me and DS adjust to my returning to work. I was very lucky, though, as my mum looks after him one day a week, so I didn't have to arrange extra childcare.

Babyboomtastic · 10/06/2024 12:45

This is bizarre.

You can go to the library this afternoon if you want. Wait to go - brilliant, it's probably open Don't want to go/busy, that's fine, don't go.

KIT days are the same. If it's beneficial and/or you can make it work for you and you want to, then crack on. Otherwise don't use them.

DreamyNavyMentor · 10/06/2024 12:50

Babyboomtastic · 10/06/2024 12:45

This is bizarre.

You can go to the library this afternoon if you want. Wait to go - brilliant, it's probably open Don't want to go/busy, that's fine, don't go.

KIT days are the same. If it's beneficial and/or you can make it work for you and you want to, then crack on. Otherwise don't use them.

What's bizarre? It's child care that's the issue

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