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Carole Middleton's sacrifices for Kate during childhood?

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Alittlebitofchaos · 09/06/2024 11:21

https://www.womanandhome.com/life/royal-news/carole-michael-middleton-sacrifice-kate/

Aibu to think that every parent would do the same for their child?
Aibu to think this is normal parenting?
Aibu to think that Carole & Michael gave their kids the skills during childhood to seamlessly fit into the elite world as teens?

Carole and Michael Middleton's sacrifices for Kate's childhood that she's never forgotten

Carole and Michael Middleton's sacrifices to support their children are something the Princess of Wales once spoke about on a podcast

https://www.womanandhome.com/life/royal-news/carole-michael-middleton-sacrifice-kate

OP posts:
Squidlette · 09/06/2024 23:18

I've never been to a school sports day.. Not allowed the time off in my job. I was working though. It's kind of a reverse Middleton- I sacrificed seeing them trot along a field, so I could pay the mortgage and ensure that other people's kids got taught.
Shit, I've actually sacrificed a lot of family time, so that I can help other people's kids. Especially those who don't get a lot of family support themselves. I'm doing it wrong. I need to be more Middleton.

QueenOfTheLabyrinth · 09/06/2024 23:29

Squidlette · 09/06/2024 23:18

I've never been to a school sports day.. Not allowed the time off in my job. I was working though. It's kind of a reverse Middleton- I sacrificed seeing them trot along a field, so I could pay the mortgage and ensure that other people's kids got taught.
Shit, I've actually sacrificed a lot of family time, so that I can help other people's kids. Especially those who don't get a lot of family support themselves. I'm doing it wrong. I need to be more Middleton.

I disagree, Kate appreciates that her parents attended her events which is great but I don’t doubt that your children will appreciate you for something else you’ve done for them which maybe Kate never had.

A good parent, is a good parent & that will manifest in a whole manner of different ways.

SapphireSlippers · 10/06/2024 08:54

QueenOfTheLabyrinth · 09/06/2024 19:38

You're missing the point, it’s about Kate’s perception of her own childhood; boarding school was her norm so she would be comparing her parents against the parents of her peers AT BOARDING SCHOOL as that‘s all she would have known, that was her whole reality.

So many people here are framing boarding schools as the kids being “shipped off” or “dumped” but Kate evidently doesn’t feel that way about her childhood (which is brilliant) & was happy so there was never any need for her to feel aggrieved & think about alternatives.

You're missing the 'Royal Washing' - Kate could have been down the mines in Siberia and "was happy so there was never any need for her to feel aggrieved & think about alternatives."

Greenlittecat · 10/06/2024 10:53

Scruffily · 09/06/2024 17:43

Who is "they"?

Who do you think "they" could possibly be? Think carefully about who the thread is about, it might give you a clue...

Platypuslover · 10/06/2024 17:53

Privilege knows no bounds 🙄

CremeFresh · 10/06/2024 18:04

It's nice that Kate appreciates her parents but I think she could have used a different word than sacrifice.

Whatafustercluck · 10/06/2024 18:25

Parents don't sacrifice their spare time, it's done willingly. Providing they are able to, of course, and are not working three jobs trying to make ends meet. Those parents really are making sacrifices - i.e. time with their dc in order to pay for family necessities. If your kids are at boarding school, you have loads of spare time when you're not actively parenting pr doing household chores, from which to find an hour here or there to cheer your child on at lacrosse or horse riding. Most parents have to juggle sports days with 9-5 jobs and doing all the household chores and life admin.

I have nothing against Kate, she seems perfectly lovely and her family seems equally lovely. I'm sure she had a great upbringing. But I think her privilege speaks volumes.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 10/06/2024 18:56

CremeFresh · 10/06/2024 18:04

It's nice that Kate appreciates her parents but I think she could have used a different word than sacrifice.

Did Kate say it, or is it some puff piece by ' friends' which normally means some made up load if nonsense.

Oldheadyoungshoulders · 10/06/2024 19:05

Do we actually care?

shehasglasses48 · 10/06/2024 21:46

DojaPhat · 09/06/2024 11:42

"Kate Mansey claimed that whilst the public "may not have noticed", Carole allegedly accompanied the Waleses on their tour of Australia and New Zealand in 2014 so she could "help with Prince George". Carole selflessly spent three weeks away from home to assist with childcare and as she was believed to have still been running her former business."

The sycophancy is mind-blowing. Carole is not some put upon grandparent, selflessly agreeing to go on a private plane on an all-expenses paid trip to look at some kualas before returning to the luxury hotel.

All that aside, the article is mainly about Kate's parents going to see her sporting events - surely this is a lot of parents. I was expecting something more about how to believably say you 'do the alps' every summer without sounding like a fraud.

Completely agree.

Kjpt140v · 10/06/2024 22:13

itsmylife7 · 09/06/2024 11:35

Can't be bothered to click on links and deny or accept cookies.

So I've no idea what the article says.

Yet you can be bothered to tell the poster, you can't be bothered.

Kjpt140v · 10/06/2024 22:17

Alittlebitofchaos · 09/06/2024 11:21

https://www.womanandhome.com/life/royal-news/carole-michael-middleton-sacrifice-kate/

Aibu to think that every parent would do the same for their child?
Aibu to think this is normal parenting?
Aibu to think that Carole & Michael gave their kids the skills during childhood to seamlessly fit into the elite world as teens?

I do not see sacrifices in this story. As a councillor I know parents who it less so that their children can have a proper meal.

OnehundredStars · 10/06/2024 22:20

She had a lucky life but I am happy for her. My mother never bothered much with me (we were cleaned and fed) but emotionally unstable parents ruined my life inside. I’m glad that not everyone is brought up like that. I’m sure every person has some crap to deal with and it’s all relative in the end.

Teddybearpicniccelebration · 10/06/2024 22:30

Maray1967 · 09/06/2024 12:06

But lots of grandparents don’t help out when babies are born. They insist on visiting but do little - so I suppose it depends on what your own experiences have been. I’m impressed by someone who helps a lot when their grandchildren are young.

Do you see CM as a role model? Going on tour around around Australia and New Zealand with the grandchildren she sounds so selfless.

LalaPaloosa · 11/06/2024 07:01

Maray1967 · 09/06/2024 12:06

But lots of grandparents don’t help out when babies are born. They insist on visiting but do little - so I suppose it depends on what your own experiences have been. I’m impressed by someone who helps a lot when their grandchildren are young.

I agree Maray1967. Few grandparents actually help.

My own parents’ version of “helping” when my daughter was born was to come and visit and sit back expecting to be waited on hand and foot. A lot of my friends and colleagues had similar experiences, the big contrast being my SIL’s Mum who was incredibly hands on.

It has always struck me that Carol Middleton has been a fantastic force behind her children (Mike too) and I do think they are all where they are today thanks to their parents.,

LazyGewl · 11/06/2024 08:42

If the things you read about Mrs Middleton are true then it is Catherine who made the sacrifices. She could have eschewed all the social climbing, fallen in love with someone lower down the social scale and lived a quiet middle class life.

Firethehorse · 11/06/2024 09:11

I think you are slightly unreasonable OP because of your assumption most parents would do these things. We all know there are many parents who are not that interested in parenting their own children, especially absent dads. It’s great that many parents provide a loving environment offering different experiences and activities but availability to finances and appropriate resources locally also play into this ideal Kate alluded to.
I think love and a developed sense of family values are more important than if mum and dad can make it to sports day each time.
Of course Kate ensures there is a glossy picture of her parents and childhood, it all falls in with the image she needs to portray and with her determination to bring her family more closely into the royal fold. Let’s not forget her parents company went bankrupt leaving many people unpaid so perhaps their focus should have been more there, especially as Kate has a full time nanny and staff to help. Her parents finances and status have been elevated beyond measure with this marriage so I could not call her mother’s help that extraordinary. It is however developing a strong family bond which Kate is right to appreciate.
So you are not wrong to think all parents ideally should have involved, loving parents and grandparents.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 11/06/2024 09:16

Sounds like normal middle class parenting. Parents had the time to turn up to sporting events at very posh private school. It’s hardly a sacrifice.
Sacrifice for your child is going without food so they eat, working long shifts to pay the bills. I doubt the Middletons know what sacrifice is though I’m sure they’re nice people and love their children and grandchildren.

Maray1967 · 11/06/2024 19:38

Teddybearpicniccelebration · 10/06/2024 22:30

Do you see CM as a role model? Going on tour around around Australia and New Zealand with the grandchildren she sounds so selfless.

Presumably that was a rare occasion, not a weekly occurrence!!

I don’t mind who the person is, I’m impressed when grandparents get stuck in. It didn’t t happen in our case.

Mydahliasareshit · 11/06/2024 19:43

I hope the message to Kate growing up wasn't completely 'we are doing all this for YOU' when it's fair to say quite a lot of it has benefited all the family in many ways. And perhaps Carole has also lived quite vicariously through her daughters.

Alittlebitofchaos · 12/06/2024 11:47

MyQuaintDog · 09/06/2024 17:26

OP have you ever read any Royal articles before? It is normal for various members of the Royal family to be highly praised for ordinary things.

Carole isn't royal & never will be!

OP posts:
Alittlebitofchaos · 12/06/2024 11:55

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 09/06/2024 18:49

Well the MN doctrine is that money doesn’t matter, social climbing is awful, ‘I’m salt of the earth me’, and that anybody who raises their kids like this are wishing a life of unhappiness and simpering sycophancy onto them.

However there are no prizes for being poor or in a dead end job, and money DOES bring happiness insofar as you don’t have to worry about medical care, your kids education, annoying neighbours, the price of travel and enjoyment, a surprise bill… I could go on. Really the only things it doesn’t solve is some health issue and true love/friendship, but I don’t believe the latter and money are mutually exclusive if you have emotional intelligence. Plus how much easier must it to be to maintain a relationship when you can afford cleaners, nice date nights, a nanny, a lovely house. Most of the couples I know who split cited domestic drudgery and no time together as a huge factor.

I will admit I’m going to advise my daughter not to marry a skint man unless she’s absolutely certain she does not want to be with anyone else, and I will also recommend going into a profession that makes good money.

I think a lot of people are jealous of the Middletons but want to make it a matter of moral superiority

Thanks for your honesty. I have told mine the same. Work hard in school, get a good education & career, then marry a wealthy man! Wish Carole could write a book, she could be a mentor on the subject 😂

OP posts:
Alittlebitofchaos · 12/06/2024 14:58

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2qql1wk794o

Spare a thought for poor Rishi Sunak who's parebt sacrificed Sky TV for him to go to private school 😂😂

Rishi Sunak

Rishi Sunak: I went without Sky TV as a child

The PM says he sacrificed "lots of things" as a child as his parents prioritised their education.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2qql1wk794o

OP posts:
Hwi · 20/04/2025 16:46

Her parents are amazing - I don't know a single parent who would organise and lay a siege for their daughter which would lead to such stellar success! Carol in particular - she should be put in charge of strategic planning of something important at the government level in the UK.

Anyotherdude · 20/04/2025 17:23

My DP never turned up at any of my sporting events, even though I competed at County level and later, took part in British Championships, and they went on holidays without us, leaving all their DC in the care of an Aunt (not staying over) and the oldest DC aged 14 (younger DC being between 6 and 11) at the start - doing this for three years on the trot.
They also discouraged activities that cost money, using the excuse that some of the activities we had tried didn’t last (because being free, they were shite), but they were “pillars of the local community, so that was OK.
Good on Katherine for appreciating the effort her parents put in to do what was best for their kids: not all parents have always been that committed!

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