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To feel sad and like the friendship is over due to flat earth belief

255 replies

UprootedSunflower · 08/06/2024 17:28

Friend is a nice person. Comes across sensible, though has had a deepening religious conviction over the last 5-10 years. I’m Christian myself, but I’m talking a bit more fringe. We don’t talk about the fact she probably doesn’t consider me a Christian anymore. I ignore it.
But today I overheard her get really animated and happy in a flat earth discussion. She believes in flat earth. An intelligent woman who’s travelled the world and is from a country in the southern hemisphere. I’d certainly say she is educated and far from stupid.
Aibu in finding this a bit of a final straw moment for being friends? It just felt like something snapped inside that I could t ignore tbh when I heard her. I don’t feel like I want to expose the children, and I don’t feel I can keep the pretence up. It’s just a bit too far, and it feels like it’s gone over the edge.
Aibu, silly to give up on a warm and pleasant person? Or would you be drawing a line?

OP posts:
bakewellbride · 08/06/2024 19:43

@iamreallyabee sorry tagged wrong person!

iamreallyabee · 08/06/2024 19:44

bakewellbride · 08/06/2024 19:43

@iamreallyabee it's in literally all tap water so good luck thinking it's toxic! We'd all be dead if it was as we all consume it daily!

It's in your tap water

Pillowswopping · 08/06/2024 19:44

iamreallyabee · 08/06/2024 19:43

The dentist

😂😂😂

ByBrightSloth · 08/06/2024 19:45

iamreallyabee · 08/06/2024 19:38

Fluoride is toxic

Yes if you ingest it in large quantities. If their mum doesn’t want to use fluoride toothpaste they need to use an alternative they still deserve to have their teeth brushed

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/06/2024 19:46

You can literally see the curvature of the earth from a boat or a plane

I don't know if you read the Flat Earth Society's FAQs which I posted at 19:03 @TheCryingTheBitchAndTheFloordrobe, but apparently that's because aircraft (and presumably boat) windows are made of funny stuff which just makes it look as if the earth is curved Grin
Like I said, unhinged ...

bakewellbride · 08/06/2024 19:46

@iamreallyabee I can't report her to the dentist as she lies by omission by saying 'she brushes' but doesn't add that her idea of brushing is only adding water to the brush. So if the dentist asks her if she brushes her kids teeth she says yes twice a day. I don't have any proof and they can't make her so nothing I can do really other than distance myself and feel sorry for the children.

bakewellbride · 08/06/2024 19:47

I know it's in my tap water and I'm very glad of that.

junebirthdaygirl · 08/06/2024 19:48

Christians don't believe the earth is flat..that is not part of any teaching l have come across.
I wouldn't let it affect my friendship but l wouldn't engage in discussion about it. Just agree to disagree.

sandorschicken · 08/06/2024 19:51

I wouldn't not be friends with her but I'd end up arguing with her every time she opened her gob but then I'd debate with you also about your Christian beliefs.

Isittimeformynapyet · 08/06/2024 19:55

iamreallyabee · 08/06/2024 19:25

There's probably a world where it is flat, and it might even be overlapped with the one where the earth isn't. There has to be consistency though, so when we literally observe it reality collapses into the most popular world, or it's faked.

You what?

Withswitch · 08/06/2024 20:01

RandomButtons · 08/06/2024 19:29

One is a mainstream belief system with 2.2 billion followers worldwide, the other is an easily debunked by science conspiracy theory.

How are the two remotely similar?

A 'mainstream belief' for Norse people was that a wolf was chasing the sun.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 08/06/2024 20:03

fashionqueen0123 · 08/06/2024 18:52

Where does she think the edge is?

The Edge of Reason? Oh, she fell off that several conspiracies ago.

Theothername · 08/06/2024 20:04

Flat earth theory is a truly fascinating phenomenon. The myth that medieval people believed the earth was flat was made up in the context of religious disagreements in the 18th century - nobody was arguing anything of the sort from about 500BC. And probably not before either. But it got lodged into textbooks.

I think that there is something about trying to apply logic to magical thinking that can be destabilising to mental health in some people. Religion has a lot to answer for. It preys on people like this.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 08/06/2024 20:04

iamreallyabee · 08/06/2024 19:38

Fluoride is toxic

So's water (fluoridated or not) if you have too much of it.

MoonlitPeaGreenBoat · 08/06/2024 20:07

This wouldn't bother me, my friends believe various things that I don't - that's not what's important in friendship I don't think. Things like being a nice person, enjoying chatting with them, sharing sense of humour or interests, those things are more important

TooTiredToDealWithThis · 08/06/2024 20:07

A lot of good can be done with Christianity though - charity, giving, forgiveness, love etc are all key themes. I get that it is also responsible for a lot of bad stuff but the general vibe of mainstream religion is to be a good person and be kind and loving to make the world a better place, with a load of other slightly weird stuff round the edges like resurrections and whatnot.

I'm not sure Flat Earthers really have the same sort of theme to their beliefs, not were they quite such key players in history, politics, art, philosophy, music, culture etc over the last few thousand years.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/06/2024 20:14

Flat earth theory is a truly fascinating phenomenon

It certainly is, @Theothername; I've been going down the rabbit hole of their website and it bends what passes for my mind!!

PS Could we have rabbit holes if the earth was flat or would they just fall straight through? Wink

sandorschicken · 08/06/2024 20:24

iamreallyabee · 08/06/2024 18:52

I don't think your friend is stupid as some people have said but I think there isn't enough evidence that the earth is flat

Not enough evidence? Can you tell us about the 'bit' of evidence there is then please?

missmollygreen · 08/06/2024 20:24

You cannot possibly we well travelled, educated and intelligent but believe the earth is flat.

Pillowswopping · 08/06/2024 20:26

missmollygreen · 08/06/2024 20:24

You cannot possibly we well travelled, educated and intelligent but believe the earth is flat.

Yep - you can.

AnImaginaryCat · 08/06/2024 20:26

x2boys · 08/06/2024 17:39

Why do people have this beleif anyway ,why do think that they would lie to us about the world being round what difference would it make ?

This is what I'd like to know. Why do people think this?

There was an Irish TV present (Aisling O’Loughlin) who not long ago made a video about it. She would have been well travelled too. Her reason seemed to be based on questioning gravity and disbelief in the earth spinning.

As far as I know flat earth wasn't always her belief.

Begsthequestion · 08/06/2024 20:27

I was reading a Christian website the other day that was explaining why they believe Pope is the anti christ. Not one of those, is she?

Sometimeswinning · 08/06/2024 20:27

Withswitch · 08/06/2024 18:33

I think Christian complaining about a flat earther is pot calling kettle.

My first thought!

Sometimeswinning · 08/06/2024 20:29

I love a quirky friend. I have friends and family who have a view point I don’t agree with. Flat earth would be the least offensive!

Youcantellalotofthingsabouttheflowers · 08/06/2024 20:32

I couldn’t care less whether my friend thought the earth was round, flat or triangular. I do care if they are decent, kind and trustworthy though. They would be dealbreakers for me.

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