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For saying no?

91 replies

Sporttty · 06/06/2024 21:28

My parents go away for 2 weeks next week, I have a 2y 8mo and a 2.5 month old who I’m ebf.

My mum has just asked could our eldest child sleep over before they go away

I’ve said no. It’s very kind and nice which I’ve explained but I don’t want to send one kid out and not together just as right now our older child is a bit upset being separated and is noticing a lot when I’m with the baby and getting upset. They’re completely adjusting to life with a new baby sibling.

my mum is now being very short with me and making digs about not being able to baby sit our youngest as I’m breastfeeding

Am I a dickhead for saying no?

OP posts:
AgileMentor · 12/06/2024 09:17

Might be good for the elder child to have some attention soley on them.

MaidOfBondStreet · 12/06/2024 09:48

lemonmeringueno3 · 06/06/2024 22:14

Well your mum will be irritated because you've implied that she'd need to take both of them, but you're ages away from that.

I'd have thought it would be nice for dd to get some undivided attention and for you to be able to focus exclusively on baby.

But your choice of course.

@Sporttty maybe your mum will struggle with 2 children in a year or so. It's hard work x2 when you're older. You need to spin in a different way and make it sound like a treat for her, and for you! You can have a lazy morning with the baby! Make the most of it!

Cliedi · 12/06/2024 10:36

My oldest would have loved this. My youngest at 3 still doesn’t go for sleepovers because she wakes up hysterically screaming for me. Crucially you are her mother and you don’t think it’s right and your mum isn’t respectful of that.

Dont burn your bridges though! In a few years you’ll be desperate to ship them both off to Granny for the weekend

Sevenwondersofthewoo · 12/06/2024 10:45

Express milk for a 3 year to feed the baby with eh why, 3 year olds are by nature clumsy and un sure of themselves and to let them feed a live baby???

your decision and I wouldn’t be happy about my mum basically taking the huff over it either and she’d be told that.

Frangipanyoul8r · 12/06/2024 11:54

Allow your child the opportunity to be spoilt with some attention.

sophiasnail · 12/06/2024 12:01

I remember feeling really special when I went to stay with my grandparents in a very similar situation 40 years ago. They heaped me with attention, which I was of course having to share at home with a baby sister. All children are different though.

GFBurger · 12/06/2024 12:55

Definitely ask your eldest. They might love it and their world is pretty small and self centred at that age.

Just because she is jealous when you are there doesn’t mean she’ll think anything of it when you aren’t.

I had my niece at 5m with nephew at 3y for a sleepover. I had to pass 5m over in the night as she was teething and wouldn’t settle with me.

Mum was so worried that nephew would be distraught and worried in the morning that his sister wasn’t there.

Honestly… he didn’t even ask! Didn’t even notice!! We just had tons of fun and he didn’t realise!.

Baba197 · 12/06/2024 13:00

Aquamarine1029 · 06/06/2024 22:41

Whats the real reason for saying no?

i do feel theres a little bit more to this story too

I think you've got it all wrong.

Why oh why do so many women insist on perpetuating the historical mind fuck on other women to be nice, to appreciate something they aren't comfortable with, and to always have an "good enough" reason for saying no when not immediately being a people pleaser.

The op isn't having her two year old sleepover her grandparent's because she doesn't fucking want her to. She believes it's not the right time, and she doesn't need her mother to be a cow about it. I fully realize it's the bloody internet and we can share our opinion if we want to, and I actually always encourage it, but I so wish women would stop doubting themselves and not feel the need to fret about such a benign parenting choice.

Op, stop second guessing yourself, and you don't need to look for validation for your decisions from anyone. You're doing great.

But only you know your child.

Exactly!

This!

Baba197 · 12/06/2024 13:03

You could ask your daughter but at that age she may not fully understand. I’d feel the same, she’s feeling unsettled so you don’t want her feeling pushed out. Your child your decision, your mum will get over it at some point.

Icanttakethisanymore · 12/06/2024 13:07

My LB (2.5 yrs) had to stay with my mum as I was going for an MRI and the time of the appointment (3 hr journey) would have made it hard to do a daytrip. I took the baby as I was also BFing and my OH had to come to look after the baby whilst I was in the MRI. I was worried about the eldest feeling left out but we framed it as a fun thing he was doing, not that he was missing out on something and he had a fab time. It's fine to say no though and very unreasonable if your Mum is funny with you about it.

KatyJ89 · 12/06/2024 13:30

These comments are insane.

My eldest was the same and I couldn't stand sending him away, it felt like the wrong thing to do. He's never slept at anyone's house though so it is slightly different for me. We were still very much in the thick of it at 2.5 months.

Yes, you could have asked your child but if they're anything like mine they say yes then change their mind.

Your child, your rules.

cbbo · 12/06/2024 15:35

why don’t you just ask your oldest if she wants to go for a sleepover?

Doodleflips · 12/06/2024 16:07

Aquamarine1029 · 06/06/2024 22:41

Whats the real reason for saying no?

i do feel theres a little bit more to this story too

I think you've got it all wrong.

Why oh why do so many women insist on perpetuating the historical mind fuck on other women to be nice, to appreciate something they aren't comfortable with, and to always have an "good enough" reason for saying no when not immediately being a people pleaser.

The op isn't having her two year old sleepover her grandparent's because she doesn't fucking want her to. She believes it's not the right time, and she doesn't need her mother to be a cow about it. I fully realize it's the bloody internet and we can share our opinion if we want to, and I actually always encourage it, but I so wish women would stop doubting themselves and not feel the need to fret about such a benign parenting choice.

Op, stop second guessing yourself, and you don't need to look for validation for your decisions from anyone. You're doing great.

But only you know your child.

Exactly!

Well said!! Absolutely this.

EngineeringMumof4 · 12/06/2024 17:27

Why don't you ask your eldest if they want to go?? And take it from there!

Wick55 · 12/06/2024 17:47

You have every right to decide whatever you wish to, although I will say I used to love staying at my grandparents as the eldest of 3 it was the only time I got treated like the centre of the universe for a weekend it was brilliant 😁

Mabelface · 12/06/2024 17:53

No one is right it wrong here. I'll just add my thoughts.

1 night where your toddler is 100% the centre of attention from grandparents. They can stay over because they're BIG and the baby's too little to be able to go and have this fun. It could be just what they need, to have something that's just for them where the baby isn't involved.

Jumpers4goalposts · 12/06/2024 17:56

You should ask DD what she would like to do, it might be nice for her to go somewhere and be the centre of attention without having to share with a baby.

Kezy10 · 12/06/2024 18:42

I think you’ve looked at this wrong I don’t think your child would see this as being left out I think they’d find this exciting getting grandparents to themselves and how fun it would be. If your on edge you could always be on standby if she did have a wobble but I dnt think that would happen. I’d be grateful for the help and see it as you can actually have the time with your baby without feeling guilty of how much time you are spending with them :)

WineGumm · 12/06/2024 18:46

Could your Mum just take your eldest out for a couple of hours instead as a special treat? If you are not comfortable with them going overnight?

yumyumyumy · 12/06/2024 18:53

If op said no that's fine, I don't see the big deal. She's the parent and decides. The toddler isn't going to be scarred for life. I'm sure toddler will see plenty of gps in the future!

Ilovecleaning · 12/06/2024 19:14

Why doesn’t your mother understand? I am baffled.

Sporttty · 12/06/2024 21:46

Hi I forgot to update :)

I have taken all tips on board thank you and opinions on board too!

the burning question, yes I did ask her the next day! She said yes … then said no after when she asked if her aunty is staying too I said she won’t be (her aunty lives in a different city and isn’t visiting)

So maybe when my sister visits next she can have a sleepover lol!

it wasn’t a never. Just right now I don’t want her feeling pushed out. Or going to grandparents and thinking that’s the only place she’ll get attention. I give every ounce I can to her❤️ I just have to try and split myself in 2 now :( but she is doing so well we’re so very proud

re bottle feeding, will be happening eventually! So that we can have 1-2-1 time with our eldest , so I don’t know when I could start working on it soon x

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Sporttty · 12/06/2024 21:49

And regarding my mum. Yep she was out of line for her response to me saying no.

She can overstep a bit , it’s out of love but it can grate a bit.

for example she said she’s saving to take both kids to Lapland when they’re old enough. Me and DH expressed gratitude but just explained nicely we would like to do a big trip like that with them , we’d want to take them etc

she didn’t like that either and did the Same reaction , snappy comments and quite off with us about it.

don’t get me wrong very grateful We have grandparents that want to be involved ! Just sometimes she is a bit overbearing , she even called our eldest her baby one time and I had to correct her swiftly

so her reaction isn’t out of the ordinary for her. She was like that growing up, her way or she was annoyed with everyone and everything.

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Lola2321 · 12/06/2024 22:02

Sporttty · 06/06/2024 22:19

I’m a bit unsure what people mean? More to the story?

I’ve said no as I am very aware our new baby is with me most of the time as I’m the only one who can feed etc, I care about how my eldest feels and I said no not as I’m not ever , just not yet.

my mum said she would mind the 2 but then threw digs about me ‘still’ breastfeeding in. So I don’t think she wouldn’t have 2

There’s nothing deep to it, I don’t want my eldest thinking mummy and daddy are at home with the new baby giving them attention. I want her to know she’s still so very important to us and gets our attention too

might be feeling sensitive but I just want her to feel ok :)

I completely get this. My eldest is 2years 6 months and baby 6 months. It’s two boys. It took a long time for the eldest to accept the baby. We saw grandparents semi frequently and he’s want to leave the baby with them so he could have 1-1 time with us. He now likes his baby brother but we do still have adjustment issues. I’m on maternity leave but we still send the eldest to nursery, he absolutely hates leaving the house, wants to stay with me etc (he has a great time there and come homes telling me all about it) but he struggles with ‘being sent away when mummy is still at home giving the baby all the attention’ you’re not being unreasonable refusing to send your eldest to grandparents, but maybe ask her what she wants to do.

BIossomtoes · 12/06/2024 22:03

for example she said she’s saving to take both kids to Lapland when they’re old enough. Me and DH expressed gratitude but just explained nicely we would like to do a big trip like that with them , we’d want to take them etc

You could always take them somewhere else. They can have more than one big adventure.