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Friends went for lunch without me

50 replies

TheTipsyCat · 05/06/2024 22:38

Apologies in advance- long post…

been friends with a group of 4 others since school. I was kinda pushed to the outside as they went on holiday together which I couldn’t afford (they had the bank of mum and dad, I didn’t) and they went out every weekend when I was working. I joined whenever I could. I moved away from the area for a while and we did keep in touch. One friend in particular and I always made the effort to phone and text weekly and she kept me up to date with the others and vice versa. Then they started going out without inviting me. I asked why I wasn’t invited and no one had an answer. Then I was invited again for a short time. I always made an effort to go.
anyway, one time I was tagged in a post when they were all out, they said they were missing me. I hadn’t even been invited!!

Covid made it hard to meet up, but afterwards we all met up a couple of times and things were fine. Then they started meeting up without me, with this one friend saying she thought they felt I was competition. I asked in what way and she said they always wanted to know what car I drive, where I’m going on holiday etc. I said I couldnt understand why. She also made out she was barely in touch with them and talked about friendships moving on, but how glad she was that our friendship was still good.

She then invited me for a big night out with them all giving me 1 days notice. I work full time, have 3 young children and zero babysitters. I said to her I would have loved to go but it was too short notice. She agreed and said she probably wouldn’t be going. Turned out it had been planned for a while. I said if I was really wanted at the night I would have been invited when the plans were first made. She agreed and made out it was the others fault. She ended up going on the night out.

The pair of us went out for a lunch (I said invite the others but she said she wanted it to be just us) a while later and I raised the issue again. She said she nearly invited them to our lunch but thought it wasn’t fair on me so didnt. I said she should have as I have no issues with them and would have liked to have seen them. She said she didn’t know they had to be like that - they were just odd and stuck in the past from when they went on holiday together (like 20 years ago!) and like to keep it to the 4 of them. I was hurt but decided to accept their friendships were over.

i bumped into one of them randomly and she gave me a huge hug and chatted for ages, saying she’d love to catch up. I said that would be fab and she said she’d be in touch.

I messaged the friend I’d kept in touch with saying how it had been good to see the other friend and saying we should all meet up. She didn’t acknowledge that part of the text and went on to talk about other things.

next thing, at the weekend, when she knew I was free, they’re on social media having lunch at a restaurant walking distance from my house, saying they’re missing one of the 4 who couldn’t make it. No mention to me at all they were going out even tho I’d spoken to 2 of them within the past week. I’m now doubting the so called friend who I speak to on a weekly basis. Can I trust her or has she been trying to keep me apart? AIBU thinking I should have been invited?

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Dartmoorcheffy · 05/06/2024 22:42

I would dump and block them all. They aren't your friends and they sound horrible.

DuckEggy · 05/06/2024 22:45

Give them all a wide berth. Friend sounds disingenuous and is possibly the one causing trouble or likes to be the one with the gossip.

PinkSand · 05/06/2024 22:46

Confront them but know that it's over. Have your say and all out the sneaky friends behaviour on front of them all. I would.

Starlightstarbright3 · 05/06/2024 22:50

These people aren’t your friends .

The one you think is your closest is your worst enemy .

Find some better friends - they suck

LunaBunaD · 05/06/2024 23:59

They are not true friends. They are not friends at all.

SisterAgatha · 06/06/2024 00:06

My sister in law does this. It’s performative. She will only invite us along if she knows for sure it can go on Facebook so that she looks like the good family member who is so inclusive. If I post myself doing anything on the same day, it’ll be spun that we were invited but said no. In reality she’s separatist and gate keepy and has weird alliances that change depending on what other people have that she doesn’t at the time.

you don’t need it. It’s exhausting and you’re above it. Live a happy life and forget these losers x

loropianalover · 06/06/2024 00:09

I don’t think this is a group you want to be involved with OP. They don’t even sound like they like each other.

GreekVases · 06/06/2024 00:16

Honestly, OP, it all sounds a bit juvenile. You’ve drifted apart from them over the years, for reasons you list yourself — working at weekends, moving away, having children and no babysitters etc. It’s natural. Friendships shift and mutate since school. It would be strange if they didn’t. But it sounds as if there’s lip service being paid to it still being the original foursome, even if that hasn’t been true for years. Just focus on other friendships — all your eggs in one basket is never a good idea.

Aquamarine1029 · 06/06/2024 00:17

It's time for a hard reset, op. These aren't real friendships and your entanglement with them makes you feel very unhappy. Drop the rope and block the lot of them. It is definitely their loss.

PenguinLove1 · 06/06/2024 00:26

It sounds like they are a close group of 4 and you are a 'periphery' friend that they dont see as part of the main group

Either accept you will only be included sometimes or move on and find better friends - they are not good friends to you at the moment

The one that you see the most often isnt helping , she seems to like being included on both sides

ILikeBakeryStuff · 06/06/2024 03:21

PenguinLove1 · 06/06/2024 00:26

It sounds like they are a close group of 4 and you are a 'periphery' friend that they dont see as part of the main group

Either accept you will only be included sometimes or move on and find better friends - they are not good friends to you at the moment

The one that you see the most often isnt helping , she seems to like being included on both sides

This is spot on especially the last sentence.

I had a friend who liked to be on both sides too (she had a separate group of friends and never included me in any get togethers). Her behaviour was rude, childish and boring. I cut her off. It was a great decision and I never regretted it.

Rubbishconfession · 06/06/2024 03:26

YANBU, your ‘friend’ is gatekeeping you from the others.

I think you should dump the whole group but if you really want to I guess you could try arranging something with the group yourself?

Why are you always waiting for them to invite you?

TheTipsyCat · 06/06/2024 06:18

Rubbishconfession · 06/06/2024 03:26

YANBU, your ‘friend’ is gatekeeping you from the others.

I think you should dump the whole group but if you really want to I guess you could try arranging something with the group yourself?

Why are you always waiting for them to invite you?

Edited

I guess you’ve hit the nail on the head - if I try to arrange anything with them they all have a chat about it without me, and always come back with reasons not to come.

I feel pathetic in a way as I felt very hurt when they were all out again. It just seemed so underhand and needless.

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Johnhasalongmoustache · 06/06/2024 06:20

I’d have taken the hint years ago

Frangipanyoul8r · 06/06/2024 06:24

If someone or a group didn’t want to be my friend, I’d do some self reflection on why that might be and move on. You’re wasting your time forcing friendships.

Sometimes people get excluded if they’re overly negative or talk too much and dominate the conversation. Those kind of people can change a group dynamic for the worse.

Sirzy · 06/06/2024 06:28

I think it’s best to accept you have grown apart and stop trying to force the friendship

Rubbishconfession · 06/06/2024 06:43

TheTipsyCat · 06/06/2024 06:18

I guess you’ve hit the nail on the head - if I try to arrange anything with them they all have a chat about it without me, and always come back with reasons not to come.

I feel pathetic in a way as I felt very hurt when they were all out again. It just seemed so underhand and needless.

It’s not pathetic, it’s natural to feel hurt at being excluded, especially from a group in which you thought you were previously accepted.

Some of these group dynamics need one person to scapegoat to make themselves feel better. It’s likely nothing you’ve said or done that make them behave this way.

I think it’s time to put this to bed. Leave any group chats, and don’t respond to any overtures or make any yourself. In tome, block them all.

Cucumbering · 06/06/2024 06:54

just set up a WhatsApp group with everyone in and make arrangements that way. You can take the lead and organise things with all of them together instead of relying on others to sort things out on your behalf. They are obviously a bit closer and that’s fine.

in addition spread your wings and make new friends.

Johnhasalongmoustache · 06/06/2024 06:58

Just reread it, the mates don’t like you, she does and feels guilty that they’re mean about you so she’s carrying on seeing you and making up what sounds like pretty lame excuses for what they are not there.

I’m really surprised you kept this going for four years.

Johnhasalongmoustache · 06/06/2024 06:58

Cucumbering · 06/06/2024 06:54

just set up a WhatsApp group with everyone in and make arrangements that way. You can take the lead and organise things with all of them together instead of relying on others to sort things out on your behalf. They are obviously a bit closer and that’s fine.

in addition spread your wings and make new friends.

No way!

CaptainHaddocksPychotherapist · 06/06/2024 07:03

I cannot understand this child-like obsession with 'friendship groups' where it's all Whatsapp conversations and everyone has to go out as a gang.
Such playground rules and perpetuation of bitchiness and exclusion.
Why would you stay in a group that's treated you quite badly for such a long time?

BusyMum47 · 06/06/2024 07:05

Starlightstarbright3 · 05/06/2024 22:50

These people aren’t your friends .

The one you think is your closest is your worst enemy .

Find some better friends - they suck

This! ⬆️ If it was me, I'd have to confront them (as a group) & have my say before I could draw a line under it all & move on. It sounds like your 'closest' friend has been isolating you from the group but they've happily let that happen. Arseholes.

bottomsup12 · 06/06/2024 07:12

DuckEggy · 05/06/2024 22:45

Give them all a wide berth. Friend sounds disingenuous and is possibly the one causing trouble or likes to be the one with the gossip.

Definitely this

NarnianQueen · 06/06/2024 07:16

None of them sounds nice. I'm torn between thinking the one who's closest to you does genuinely like you and has kept up the friendship and thinking she's the one gate keeping. It does sound like the others aren't bothered though, if even a little of what she said was true, that they feel threatened by you (I'm guessing you have a better job than they do?)
The one you bumped into in the street said she'd be in touch but I'm guessing she hasn't been? It's so easy to say "I'd love to catch up!" Without meaning it.

I'd definitely find some new friends. Maybe try a meet up group, exercise class, book club?

TheTipsyCat · 06/06/2024 07:25

NarnianQueen · 06/06/2024 07:16

None of them sounds nice. I'm torn between thinking the one who's closest to you does genuinely like you and has kept up the friendship and thinking she's the one gate keeping. It does sound like the others aren't bothered though, if even a little of what she said was true, that they feel threatened by you (I'm guessing you have a better job than they do?)
The one you bumped into in the street said she'd be in touch but I'm guessing she hasn't been? It's so easy to say "I'd love to catch up!" Without meaning it.

I'd definitely find some new friends. Maybe try a meet up group, exercise class, book club?

I do have a better job than them - which I worked my socks off to get!!

I guess I’m now doubting the ‘friend’ that kept in touch with me. Was it ever genuine or was it just so she could report back? Plus, why?? And why give me the impression she had drifted from the others as well?

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